WHERE THE WILD THINGS ARE... BEING COMPLETELY RESHOT?
- By Devin Faraci
- Published 02/20/2008
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We're on the verge of losing a movie. Spike Jonze's version of Where the Wild Things Are is a film with an uncertain future as executives behind the scenes at Warner Bros and Legendary Pictures are right now trying to figure out whether or not to essentially reshoot the entire film.If the entire film gets reshot you will hear that the decision came because of technical issues, specifically the animation of the Wild Things' mouths and facial features. The film uses people in huge Jim Henson Creature Shop suits, and the plan was to shoot the suits and animate the Wild Things' faces later. That has been proving to be more technically difficult than anyone had foreseen, even though test footage had been shot (a leaked clip from the movie that hit the internet this weekend was in fact some of that test footage, according to a statement from Spike Jonze). This is a bad situation, obviously, but one where some footage could be salvaged, meaning that a complete and total reshoot of the film wouldn't be necessary.
Yet I'm hearing that just such a massive reshoot is what is on the table right now. And it's not because of technical issues, unless you want to consider the lead kid actor and the script technical issues. Sources tell me that the suits at Legendary and Warner Bros are not happy with Max Records, the actor playing Max, the mischievous boy who is crowned King of the Wild Things. Worse than that, they don't like the film's tone and want to go back to the script drawing board, possibly losing the Spike Jonze/Dave Eggers script when they do it. Apparently the film is too weird and 'too scary,' and the character of Max is being seen as not likable (check out some of the test screening responses that Slashfilm is running).
Where The Wild Things Are screened for a test audience in Pasadena late last year; my friend BC, who watches a horror movie a day, caught the screening and liked what he saw, but I've also been told that the movie is 'subversive,' which is just the sort of thing that drives studio suits up the wall. The film, I keep hearing, is pretty great at this early stage of post-production, but it could very possibly not be a commercial movie. You can imagine the panic at Warner Bros when they realized they'd made a reportedly 75 million dollar kiddie art house film.
Can Warner Bros force Spike back to do the sort of massive reshoots they want? I've been on the phone to Warner Bros and Legendary and have not been able to get official statements about the status of the film, or whether Spike has final cut. A less reliable source has told me that he does in fact have final cut, which means that if he doesn't want to go back and do the reshoots he doesn't have to - but Warner Bros could still fire him and assign the reshoots to someone more compliant. Spike has a crew he likes to work with and they have not yet been told to gear up for additional shooting although they do know that it could be coming.
The scary thing is that this wouldn't be unprecedented for Warner Bros. Just a couple of years ago they scrapped Paul Schrader's Exorcist prequel and sent Renny Harlin out to remake the thing using the same sets and some of the same actors. Both versions ended up being terrible, but this studio has shown their willingness to do something just this nutty before.
There has been a glimmer of good news, and it's that Spike issued a statement about the leaked clip. For a little while I contemplated the idea that it had been leaked by Spike as some sort of move against the suits, but what could that move have meant? The fact that Spike is making statements about the clip - and that he's making statements at all about the movie - is a sign that not all is lost.
Everything points to Spike Jonze's Where the Wild Things Are being a unique and fascinating film. It's not a cookie cutter kid movie, and I know that was part of the original appeal to folks at Warner Bros - why the hell else do you bring Jonze on? I didn't make it out to that Pasadena test screening, but now I wish I had so that I could report to you just what sort of a movie Spike has made. The reality, though, is that it doesn't matter since I tend to come down on the side of the great talent in these cases, and there's no question that Spike is a great talent. I don't trust the money people to look at a movie that's different and non-comformist and to understand it. Of course they're afraid of it. You can make movies where you don't take risks, but in this case they've decided to take the risk. They should let it play out and see what happens.
It's important to keep in mind that as of this weekend nothing was decided or set in stone. Hopefully all the behind the scenes stuff will settle soon, Spike will get to release the movie he wants to release and Warner Bros will strongly support the film with marketing and advertising. Meanwhile I'll keep my ear to the ground and let you know what I hear.
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Comment #1 (Posted by Patrick Ripoll)
The film was looking great, but then you get to that twist where Max's parents are in the car trunk and he starts at them with the shovel...it's just a bit much.
Comment #2 (Posted by Aethyrr)
Sounds insane, really. I didn't know these guys liked to throw away money like that, shooting and reshooting and all that..
Comment #3 (Posted by Brian)
Oh please don't let this happen.
Comment #4 (Posted by an unknown user)
This just got picked up by HollywoodChicago.com:
http://www.hollywoodchicago.com/forums/1332/spike-jonzes-75-million-where-the-wild-things-are-to-be-entirely-reshot
Comment #5 (Posted by Anon)
I saw the pasadena screening. The movie was really bad. I am a fan of spikes work, but he went too far over the deep end on this one. Pretty much everything in the movie was stupid (Including a giant dog in the desert). They should bury the project and let it die. It will always be better as a book.
Comment #6 (Posted by Holly)
So, who will be blamed for this? Warner Bros. single-handedly ruined Invasion and now, here they go again.
Comment #7 (Posted by anon)
I normally don't have any kind of inside scoop on anything Hollywood, but the rumor coming from a friend of someone pretty involved in this was that was that the script was a mess.
Comment #8 (Posted by Mark)
Ok, so which one of you anonymous posters are actually Warner Bros. employees doing damage control?
Comment #9 (Posted by Davey)
I read reviews from folks who'd read the screenplay awhile back and it was unanimously praised as a masterpiece in the making. Maybe I somehow just read the wrong stuff... But I dunno. Spike Jonze + Dave Eggers + Maurice Sendak's original book + this picture we see online everywhere and the leaked footage + huge Jim Henson puppets = A MOVIE I REALLY REALLY WANTED TO SEE.
Comment #10 (Posted by GET AIDS NOW!)
Didn't Devin review the script some months back, and showered it with every superlative that can be thought of?
Comment #11 (Posted by 47)
Apparently, Sendak actually worked with Spike, and approved of the finished product.
Comment #12 (Posted by Paul)
So you guys are all up in arms about a kid's movie shot by a retard? What an age we live in.
Normally I love this site, but for God's sake, have you gone loco?
Comment #13 (Posted by Matt Packer)
Christ almighty - Warners has just stuck its millions behind Watchmen and now it's afraid of being 'subversive'?!
Comment #14 (Posted by Milou)
"the film is too weird and 'too scary,' and the character of Max is being seen as not likable "... Pretty surprinsingly, Sendak's book got the same comments when it was published back in the 60's... So it means that Spike Jonze remained true to the book, while making it more relevant to the modern audience... I'd wonder what Maurice Sendak has to say about this "affair".
Comment #15 (Posted by Renny Harlin)
Hey, good news! I'm available!
Comment #16 (Posted by Bevan Bell)
Ever read the book "FIASCO: A HISTORY OF HOLLYWOOD'S ICONIC FLOPS" ? These studios have a history of sinking deep into the red to try to get a "sure thing" hit. It doesn't surprise me that they would re-shoot the whole thing because some jackhole "thinks" he knows what people will watch and PAY MONEY FOR. After sinking 75 million into a project, what's another 50 million? That's just taking the piss.
Comment #17 (Posted by Bryan)
A while back Maurice Sendak was quoted as saying that he loved Jonze and Eggers's script and that it was the perfect approach to the movie and if the movie was not made that way he would prefer there never to be a Where the Wild Things Are movie. If he still feels that way hopefully he will speak up on this.
Honestly this has been my most anticipated movie for years and I will be crushed if they decide to kill it. I read some of the test screening reviews and yes, some of them were negative. On the other hand some of them were extremely positive - after watching a movie where the main characters' mouths had not been added in yet! I think that's a strong sign that there's something special going on here.
Comment #18 (Posted by Bruce)
The actors in the screen test are Griffin Armstorff and Sean Penn. Penn's voice was added later. This was shot in 2005 in Griffth Park. The scene. along with three other scenes, were all improv. Hopefully, someone will leak the other scenes.
Comment #19 (Posted by monsterofmud)
Schrader's Exorcist prequel terrible? I think Devin needs to reevaluate a subtle masterpiece...
Comment #20 (Posted by Les)
If they really want to see how its done, they should see the ballet version of the story. I've seen it twice and its amazing, especially seeing the 10 foot tall monsters on stage.
Comment #21 (Posted by Yappy's Dog Treats)
I'll bet Spike leaked that footage himself, just to keep the studio from saying they were doing reshoots due to shoddy effects. the FX seemed to look good to me. On the other hand if Universal takes control of the project i'm sure we'll get a ton of fart jokes. I love me some fart jokes.
Comment #22 (Posted by an unknown user)
This is insane... I'm starting a blog about this. http://spikejonzewwta.blogspot.com
Comment #23 (Posted by an unknown user)
This is along the same lines.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=affah-gOjEo&feature=RecentlyWatched&page=1&t=t&f=b
Comment #24 (Posted by Dan Masse / Film Threat)
I was talking to Roger Ebert about it after he saw the preview - he said it was by far one of the best things he'd seen in the last DECADE. And he hasn't liked anything in the last year, really ... I'm psyched to see it. I think they're shooting themselves in the foot if they reshoot. This has enormous potential
Comment #25 (Posted by an unknown user)
My daughter is 7 and we went to the test screening last year. Her mouth was open the whole movie in utter amazement. It broke her heart a bit today when I told her about this article. Not only did she absolutely love the movie, I thought it was finally a breath of fresh air to see a real family film without poop and fart jokes. This is the type of film I've been waiting for since The Dark Crystals and Labyrinths have all gone and past. This is just stupid. Whatever...
Comment #26 (Posted by Sasha)
This is stupid. They shouldn't re-shoot it. It was looking like being good, dark fun.
Comment #27 (Posted by an unknown user)
I also was at the screening and know many people involved. I'm a huge fan of Jonze's work, both in music videos and in cinema. It is however not a 'studio problem', but as people have mentioned, a problem that goes way back to the script stage. At present the film is about bickering monsters with no distinct plot and there is a distinct lack of 'magic'. The book is obviously very short, but extremely moving and original in it's vision. The film has it's moments, but on the whole does not know what it is and who it's audience is. I really do want this film to be good and there are certain moments when it comes alive, but at present, it needs work, and a lot of it to be the great film that so many people, Jonze lovers, and more importantly, the legions of fans of this book, imagine it could be.
Comment #28 (Posted by Damon Holaday)
DON'T RESHOOT IT!!!!
Comment #29 (Posted by an unknown user)
I really hope Jonze and the script go ahead to finish the film. That test footage looked great.
Comment #30 (Posted by cakebite)
I saw this movie and it was utterly amazing. Despite it being in a very unfinished state it was still the best movie I saw all year. You have to keep in mind that I'm 27, a fan of Spikes and Henson movies like Labyrinth and the Dark Crystal. Like those "kids" films it's a little dark (there's one scene specifically that might be out of place in a bland safe kids movie). Emotionally it's heavy and sad for a good part of it, and the performance from Max in that was spot on. I couldn't be more shocked that they'd want to remove him. I swear that Hollywood hates films with human emotion.
Comment #31 (Posted by Harrison)
I auditioned for the part of Max.. It was one of my first auditions, my agent says that Spike saw me. I looked too old for the part, but I must say, the script was a disaster. Where the Wild Things Are, was one of my favorite books growing up and I felt the movie would've ruined. I hope they bury it.
Comment #32 (Posted by Farron)
They don't need to totally kidify this movie for a pre-school audience. Such great fantasy type movies such as The Dark Crystal and The Labyrinth were made in the past and they had their scary scenes (well at least The Dark Crystal did), the creatures were also created by the Jim Henson company. Another movie to remember is 'The NeverEnding Story'. These are classics!
Spike Jonze and his work is amazing. The story is about monsters who live in the wild so it isn't all fluff and flowers.
Please, please, please Warner Brothers see the amazing piece of work already in front of you and don't change it. This is sure to be a classic movie as long as you keep it as it is!
I hope Warner is listening and if not, someone who knows how to get in touch let them know that they shouldn't wreck a good thing.
Comment #33 (Posted by jmm)
The main issue here is that Warner couldn't care less about the movie's supposed 'quality', what studio does? All they care is about releasing a movie that makes MONEY, and you know what? They may be quite right on that regard. I have no clue if this movie is a classic masterpiece in the making or a complete mess, but it is looking more and more like the kind of movie that scares audiences away and flops in a colossal way at the box office.
Of course, knowing Jonze's work, it's only stupid that people at Warner are realizing about that only now.
What I find the most annoying is that line about 'Max not being LIKABLE'. Well, DUH?! He does NOT have to be likable. Unless you want to make a kiddie movie out of it that you can exploit through countless merchandising, of course.
Nothing new here, really.
Comment #34 (Posted by Daphne)
I have been looking forward to this movie since I first heard of it a year or more ago. To be honest I think the film will do great no matter how the script turns out, because the leaked test shot alone has already received a ton of praise. I am patiently awaiting the final release, but I'd just like to suggest that they at least save what they have so far to place on an bonus material DVD.
Comment #35 (Posted by josh)
sign the petition!
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/save_wtwta/index.html
Comment #36 (Posted by Murdock Scott)
Thanks to everyone providing information here!
Where The Wild Things Are was a very important book to me as a kid... I had a physically abusive home life, identified with Max and his ability to escape into his imagination and take charge of this environment, blah, blah, blah. I only mention it so that you know how serious I am... It really meant the world to me.
In addition to its simple and elegant story, Maurice Sendak's art in the book is stunning and I can say with no hesitation that it was one of the things that influenced me to pursue my creative abilities. I am a bit subversive, dark, and spooky myself... coincidence? Only somewhat, I am sure I was drawn to the book because of those budding esthetics in me but kids NEED influences that cover a full spectrum of tone. I would not have developed into exactly who I am without Maurice Sendak.
This film needs to be done right. It is just more important than the average kids book in my opinion. I just learned about it today so it has been a real up and down experience.
One thing is for sure... creative decisions about something very precious to me are currently being made by men in suits trying to maximize gross earenings... I hate that.
Here are my thoughts on the matter if you care to check them out.
<A HREF="http://liesbydoc.blogspot.com/2008/03/verry-conflicted-over-wrere-wild-things.html" >Where The Wild Things Are film... Laugh or cry?</A>
Thanks again, I hope we all get a film we can enjoy.
Comment #37 (Posted by an unknown user)
I had the opportunity to speak to someone who was highly involved in the production of the film about this and he said its not true, its being made how spike wants it. He also said that spike is just a perfectionist and wants to spend a lot of time on making it right. Major relief!
I think all this is just a clever way to get people talking about the film.
Comment #38 (Posted by DaveyCrockett)
Show us the finished peice! Just cause this isnt 20 years ago, when it would have been a good movie, doesnt mean we have to wait another 20 years to see it.

