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post #1 of 101
7/17/07 at 5:43am
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I get into these moods all the time where all I want to listen to is Disintergration. It's a great album, but I'd like a little variety with my moping. Unfortunately, my musical knowledge ain't much in this area.

Any good suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
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post #2 of 101
7/17/07 at 5:49am
Joy Division
Bauhaus, of course
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post #3 of 101
7/17/07 at 5:56am
Nick Cave
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post #4 of 101
7/17/07 at 5:58am
Would Siouxsie And The Banshees (sp?) count?
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post #5 of 101
7/17/07 at 6:14am
There's always Sisters of Mercy. There's nothing quite like their goth cover of the Rolling Stones "Gimme Shelter".
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post #6 of 101
7/17/07 at 6:48am
Killing Joke
early New Order, which is for all intents and purposes Joy Division with something to cry about
Samhain
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post #7 of 101
7/17/07 at 6:52am
Sending you a CD of stuff Patrick as a thankyou for your more than awesome book action; the bulk of it is stuff of this nature, but here are a few you can't go wrong with:

Rasputina: Seriously one of the best bands ever. If you haven't heard their stuff go with anything from Cabin Fever.
This Mortal Coil: Any of it. Their version of Song of the Siren is bliss.
If you are going to go with Siouxsie and the Banshees, try also The Creatures. Side project that is actually better in my opinion.
Tears for Fears is a good one. Lots of overwrought stuff to be found there.
As has been mentioned before, you really can't go wrong with Nick Cave. His later stuff is awesome.
Most Nine Inch Nails is great, the first bunch of Marilyn Manson albums are cool, Mazzy Starr doesn't really fall into this category as such but is well worth a look and you should give an outfit called Shinjuku Thief a go. Fucking brilliant stuff but hard to come by.
Also: Ministry, but only when drunk.
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post #8 of 101
7/17/07 at 7:17am
The Smashing Pumpkins - Adore

The whole fucking album.
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post #9 of 101
7/17/07 at 8:19am
Also: My Bloody Valentine.
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post #10 of 101
7/17/07 at 8:48am
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Originally Posted by Michael Shaver
Nick Cave
In terms of actual songs I'd say Mercy Seat or Do You Love Me.

Whoever mentioned Siouxsie gets a big <3 from me too.
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post #11 of 101
7/17/07 at 9:34am
Well, you need the standards for sure:

Bella Lugosis Dead - Bauhaus
Temple of Love - Sisters of Mercy
Assimilate - Skinny Puppy
and, as already mentioned, The Mercy Seat - Nick Cave.


My Goth phase didn't last very long so I only know the ones everyone else knows.
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post #12 of 101
7/17/07 at 9:47am
If you like goth rock/techno, Deathline International's Arashi Syndrome is an awesome CD.
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post #13 of 101
7/17/07 at 9:59am
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Originally Posted by Dross
The Smashing Pumpkins - Adore

The whole fucking album.

Hell no.


Joy Division, Sisters of Mercy, Killing Joke,Bauhaus and Nick Cave are good recommendations and are must-haves in such a CD. Siouxie is also great.

I'd throw around:

Clan of Xymox - Medusa
The Mission - Wasteland
Fields of the Nephelim - Moonchild
Echo and the Bunnymen - The Killing Moon
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post #14 of 101
7/17/07 at 10:00am
Ask and ye shall recieve.

Ripoll, PM me your address. In the spirit of the Mix CD Swap, (also I've been dying for another go around, especially with the great stuff being bandied about now making my set look downright ridiculous by comparison), I'll gladly send you a primer.
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post #15 of 101
7/17/07 at 10:14am
The Smiths- Queen is Dead. Its kinda pop-goth. Its also kinda amazing.
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post #16 of 101
7/17/07 at 10:26am
When did Ripoll get kidnapped from a Woody Allen film festival by Hot Topic employees?



Ah well. For old school Goth, the aforementioned Joy Division, Sioxsie and Banshees, and Bauhaus are all good calls. Also check out some solo work by Bauhaus lead Peter Murphy, who is affectionately known as the "Godfather of Goth".


There's probably Some crossover old stuff that semi-qualifies as well, like Depeche Mode and the Cocteu Twins. I also used to lump in oddities like Nina Hagen and Lene Lovich as old school Goth, although they both truly defy any categorization.
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post #17 of 101
7/17/07 at 10:32am
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Originally Posted by Death Surge
There's probably Some crossover old stuff that semi-qualifies as well, like Depeche Mode and the Cocteu Twins. I also used to lump in oddities like Nina Hagen and Lene Lovich as old school Goth, although they both truly defy any categorization.
That's the tricky thing about the whole "Goth" music in the 80's. A lot of band got associated with goth music, so it varies a lot in style. It can go from Dead Can Dance, to Type O Negative, to the Cult, Depeche Mode (good call there). From electronic to metal.

Heck, even Front Line Assembly, Ministry,Skinny Puppy, KMFDM and the industrial side goes in this.

On the plus side, it makes for very interesting mixes.
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post #18 of 101
7/17/07 at 10:47am
http://www.kuci.org/ on saturday nights 11pm EST 8PST has 2 goth radio shows both are real great and offer great bands like Penis Fly Trap

I have nothing to do with this site or the school but thought you all might like it and its free music
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post #19 of 101
7/17/07 at 11:13am
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Originally Posted by avoideverything
Assimilate - Skinny Puppy
Not criticizing, but why that song in particular? Personally I'd probably go with "Worlock", "Killing Game" or "Cult".
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post #20 of 101
7/17/07 at 12:14pm
The Smiths, Smashing Pumpkins?

No, No, No.



A definitive classic Goth Mix would contain Sisters of Mercy, Rosetta Stone, The Mission, Bauhaus, Joy Division, Christian Death, Shadow Project, Fields of the Nephilim, Alien Sex Fiend, and possibly Gitane Demone and the slightly laughable Nosferatu.

Skinny Puppy Clan of Xymox, VNV Nation and Front Line Assembly are all amazing industrial bands, you could include them or keep it seperate. I agree with Jim, the Skinny Puppy song to choose would be Worlock.
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post #21 of 101
7/17/07 at 12:17pm
For god's sake, Ripoll, just get a Livejournal and a vasectomy already.
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post #22 of 101
7/17/07 at 12:18pm
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Originally Posted by Brad Millette
For god's sake, Ripoll, just get a Livejournal and a vasectomy already.
This is also good advice.
Goth is best left for the years of age 15 through 20.
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post #23 of 101
7/17/07 at 12:24pm
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You don't understand me. I wouldn't expect YOU to understand me. No one understands me.
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post #24 of 101
7/17/07 at 12:29pm
I'll say, there's nothing more fun than watching Goths dance They usually face the wall, and look completely lost when there's no walls to dance to.

If you do that Patrick, get help.
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post #25 of 101
7/17/07 at 12:31pm
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Originally Posted by Patrick Ripoll
You don't understand me. I wouldn't expect YOU to understand me. No one understands me.
I understand you, your soul is like blood dripping from a dead, red rose into a dark abyss that empties the world of hope, leaving only pain and suffering. Depair is your only comfort, as your life slips away.
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post #26 of 101
7/17/07 at 12:33pm
Also if you can find them you should try and listen to:

Count in Fives by the Horrors
Half Jack/Sex Changes/Coin Operated Boy by the Dresden Dolls.
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post #27 of 101
7/17/07 at 12:34pm
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Originally Posted by horrid
I understand you, your soul is like blood dripping from a dead, red rose into a dark abyss that empties the world of hope, leaving only pain and suffering. Depair is your only comfort , as your life slips away.
Twilight Vampire ?
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post #28 of 101
7/17/07 at 12:40pm
Amalgam of bad goth poetry I've been subjected to over the years.
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post #29 of 101
7/17/07 at 12:44pm
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Originally Posted by Patrick Ripoll
You don't understand me. I wouldn't expect YOU to understand me. No one understands me.
Cue the scene where Ripoll runs up the stairs, door slams and then to the shot of parents unsure what to do.

Cut to Ripoll looking at himself in the mirror and begin soundtrack that leads to his new image.

This shit does indeed write itself.
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post #30 of 101
7/17/07 at 12:48pm
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I considered actually "going goth" as far as make-up and hair and all that shit, because I thought I really was that miserable. Turns out I was just bored.
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post #31 of 101
7/17/07 at 12:51pm
Well whatever ya do, don't do the white-face thing. That hasn't really been done since late 80s and we all know what about to Vito Spatafore's kid.
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post #32 of 101
7/17/07 at 1:00pm
The goth community's ranking in my estimation has only benefitted from that "Juggalo" thread.

That said, I don't know much about "goth" music but don't think NIN really belongs. Danzig, maybe.
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post #33 of 101
7/17/07 at 1:02pm
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Also, to provide some perspective, I also get into these moods where all I want to listen to is pop songs from the 90's.
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post #34 of 101
7/17/07 at 1:07pm
As has been said, goth music has a sell-by date directly related to the age of the listener. After you hit the early 20s, if most over-the-top goth artists don't start coming off as funny instead of relatable, you're probably doing something wrong with your life. The best of the artists mentioned (Nick Cave, Joy Division, even the Cure) would never exclusively be considered "goth," anyway. There's plenty of better, more substantive, depressing music that doesn't require listening to some jackass dressed like a vampire.
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post #35 of 101
7/17/07 at 1:14pm
You leave Peter Murphy outta this Dave!
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post #36 of 101
7/17/07 at 1:18pm
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Originally Posted by EdHocken
Well whatever ya do, don't do the white-face thing. That hasn't really been done since late 80s.
I remember it being pretty common when the Crow came out in '94

And Lumberjack goths are still cool right?
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post #37 of 101
7/17/07 at 1:24pm
You're probably right re: the the white face thing. I used to go to Industrial/Goth clubs a lot in college and I always noticed for the gothy people except for a few, no one would do the white face thing.

Pop songs from the 90s? This would explain that copy of Tragic Kingdom wedged in your backseat eh Ripoll?
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post #38 of 101
7/17/07 at 1:27pm
Skip goth, go with Tom Waits and some sardonic Leonard Cohen. Choose wisely and you can also find some great Neil Young, Patsy Cline, Shane McGowan and Johnny Cash in which to wallow.

And definitely Ray Charles' cover of "Eleanor Rigby." (works for me, anyway)
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post #39 of 101
7/17/07 at 1:36pm
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Originally Posted by Multiple Miggs
The goth community's ranking in my estimation has only benefitted from that "Juggalo" thread.

That said, I don't know much about "goth" music but don't think NIN really belongs. Danzig, maybe.
Same principle, though. It's just a more commercial, popular version of it.
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post #40 of 101
7/17/07 at 1:37pm
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Originally Posted by jay f
You leave Peter Murphy outta this Dave!
Much like the Cure, I like him better when he's poppy, actually. I can't take Bauhaus seriously.
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post #41 of 101
7/17/07 at 2:04pm
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Originally Posted by Multiple Miggs
Skip goth, go with Tom Waits and some sardonic Leonard Cohen. Choose wisely and you can also find some great Neil Young, Patsy Cline, Shane McGowan and Johnny Cash in which to wallow.

And definitely Ray Charles' cover of "Eleanor Rigby." (works for me, anyway)
But most of Goth-leanings and yearnings is entwined with vibe, music and fashion, not just the depressed or downtrodden sentiment. Most of these artists could not be further from the actual goth movement (black stool) if they tried (with the exception of some Tom Waits and Johnny Cash's clothes), and I dunno if that's what Patrick was looking for.
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post #42 of 101
7/17/07 at 2:09pm
You don't need "goth" for "mopey". Nick Cave's "Your Funeral, My Trial" is the good shit.

I think the Smiths' combination of androgynous moping and clever lyrics would be suited to you, Ripoli. Their The Queen Is Dead, as has been mentioned, is great.
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post #43 of 101
7/17/07 at 2:11pm
what's the name of the band that like's to rip the wings off of butterflies? HIM, I believe is the group.

If I were 14, I'd probably think HIM was an awesome GOTH type rock band.
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post #44 of 101
7/17/07 at 2:16pm
This list needs more Tristania.
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post #45 of 101
7/17/07 at 2:19pm
I'm just grateful nobody's brought Dir-En-Grey into this discussion.
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post #46 of 101
7/17/07 at 2:24pm
I was told to consider Einstürzende Neubauten as part of Goth music. That's how wide this thing goes.
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post #47 of 101
7/17/07 at 2:37pm
Hell, why not throw some Laibach in there as well.

Who can say no to Jesus Christ Superstar, Get Back, The Final Countdown, and Sympathy for the Devil covered by some bizarre fascistic political group from Slovenia with industrial techno sensibilities.
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post #48 of 101
7/17/07 at 2:42pm
When ever I hear Laibach, I see this.

Fucking cats.
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post #49 of 101
7/17/07 at 3:02pm
Wire's Chairs Missing and 154 both have goth leanings.

Also, along the lines of the more atmospheric elements of Disentegration, are Talk Talk's Spirit of Eden and Laughing Stock. They started as a synthpop band, but these two albums are just incredible for their ambience--slow, delicate, trippy, sad and beautiful. Pretty close to This Mortal Coil, actually.
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post #50 of 101
7/17/07 at 3:15pm
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Originally Posted by Andrew Collins
But most of Goth-leanings and yearnings is entwined with vibe, music and fashion, not just the depressed or downtrodden sentiment. Most of these artists could not be further from the actual goth movement (black stool) if they tried (with the exception of some Tom Waits and Johnny Cash's clothes), and I dunno if that's what Patrick was looking for.
What if he reads some Anne Rice while listening to Leonard Cohen and wearing a smidge of eyeliner? Close enough?
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