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Originally Posted by Andrew Collins
But most of Goth-leanings and yearnings is entwined with vibe, music and fashion, not just the depressed or downtrodden sentiment. Most of these artists could not be further from the actual goth movement (black stool) if they tried (with the exception of some Tom Waits and Johnny Cash's clothes), and I dunno if that's what Patrick was looking for.
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Another thing to consider is that the most widely acknowledged variants on the goth style comes largely from British Romantic and gothic (duh) literature. Other singer songwriters who tend to stick to dark subject matter (Cave, McGowan, Cohen) are often more rooted in the grisly realities of the everyday or tend toward narratives with a lot of specificity (see Cave's Murder Ballads). To my mind, this smacks a lot more of the American southern gothic thing a la Flannery O'Connor or Faulkner, which shares some of the dark vibes with 19th century Romantic and post-Romantic types like the Shelleys and the Brontes, but cuts the melodrama in half and adds a grittier sensibility (and, yeah, I know that none of the artists I mentioned are from the American south).
