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post #51 of 122
8/2/07 at 4:32pm
No trailers on these releases

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Edgar Wright and Nick Frost had a panel at Comic Con promoting the DVD for Hot Fuzz. Amidst all the news about the DVD Edgar Wright put a real damper on the evening saying that the new seperate releases of Death Proof and Planet Terror will not include the faux trailers. Instead they will later package them up and do a double disc release sometime in the future.
http://www.horror-movies.ca/horror_8798.html
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post #52 of 122
8/2/07 at 4:39pm
and thus as usual, we play the waiting game.
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post #53 of 122
8/2/07 at 4:43pm
Since they're splitting them up, I'm sure each DVD will be approximately half the price of a normal new release. Right?

I only want Death Proof, so this won't bother me too much.
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post #54 of 122
8/2/07 at 4:44pm
I'm upset I won't get to see "Grindhouse" as a whole film, but I feel I deserve it. I should have given this movie my money in the theater, and not waited for the DVD.
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post #55 of 122
8/2/07 at 4:44pm
Yeah, all I need is Death Proof. I knew as soon as Planet Terror ended that I'd never feel the need to watch it again, whereas when Death Proof ended, I wanted to watch it again immediately.
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post #56 of 122
8/2/07 at 4:47pm
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Originally Posted by Starving Dog
No trailers on these releases
That's why god made YouTube.
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post #57 of 122
8/2/07 at 4:49pm
And for those that want both in a big nice package, I'll never understand why it's so hard to wait. That's why they have Netflix. I've never even been tempted to buy a Kill Bill DVD, a Pirates of the Caribbean DVD, or the previously mentioned Ocean's 1_ DVDs because I know there's something better coming. I'll Netflix Zodiac and enjoy it, and then I'll buy the nice SE when it comes out.
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post #58 of 122
8/2/07 at 5:19pm
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Originally Posted by Tim N.
And for those that want both in a big nice package, I'll never understand why it's so hard to wait. That's why they have Netflix. I've never even been tempted to buy a Kill Bill DVD.
3 years isn't that long of a wait, after all.
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post #59 of 122
8/2/07 at 6:14pm
This is why I barely even buy DVDs anymore. It's like they're taking their notes from the computer industry. Now if it's less than 3 discs, I'm terrified that the second I take it out of the shrinkwrap, the studio will announce some new release with 10 new cuts of the movie and interviews with the ghosts of dead cast members. I only buy it right away if I loved the movie too much to wait, or if it's conveniently on sale near my birthday or tax return time.

I did, however, make an exception with the Kill Bills. Don't get me wrong, I'm still pissed off about it. But, I can justify purchasing a barebones DVD a lot more easily than I can justify renting the same movie 100 times. Kill Bill has spent more time in my DVD player than just about any other movie I own, so I stand by my decision.
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post #60 of 122
8/2/07 at 6:20pm
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Originally Posted by Starving Dog
3 years isn't that long of a wait, after all.
It's not. There are THOUSANDS of other movies to watch.
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post #61 of 122
8/2/07 at 6:24pm
Phil beat me to it. Plus, you can Netflix it once a week until the big box comes out.
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post #62 of 122
8/2/07 at 6:26pm
Seriously, it's like the word was ignored.

NET. FLIX.
Don't watch that many movies a month?

MOVIE GALLERY.
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post #63 of 122
8/3/07 at 4:59am
I did ignore the word. I don't rent movies. I don't rent anything. If I spend money on something, I plan on owning it. I never have liked to pay someone money to borrow something.
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post #64 of 122
8/3/07 at 10:58am
I imagine vacations are very expensive for you.
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post #65 of 122
8/3/07 at 2:18pm
It's very frustrating that the people (only people, judging by the BO take) who went out and gave this film support in the theaters, are the same people that are getting dicked over with this DVD "release" (until a proper set is put out, that is).
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post #66 of 122
8/3/07 at 2:53pm
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Originally Posted by Bailey
I imagine vacations are very expensive for you.
Sometimes. Depends on where I go?
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post #67 of 122
8/5/07 at 11:00pm
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Originally Posted by Moltisanti
If this was a situation like SIN CITY where they had a firm SE announced when the single disc was released then I'd hold off, but for all we know this supposed ultimate GRINDHOUSE package will go the way of the KILL BILL: WHOLE BLOODY AFFAIR.
This is the only thought that would make me interested in buying these. However, learning that the faux trailers won't be on these disks just made the decision for me. I'll wait.
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post #68 of 122
8/6/07 at 8:43pm
Is Harvey Scissorshands delibertely trying to alienate the hardcore fans?
If so,he is doing a terrific job of it.
The No Trailers is the Kiss of death for me for the seperate releases...that and the fact I feel that both films are about at their proper running times anyway,
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post #69 of 122
8/10/07 at 9:07pm
I sure hope there is a all in one release later on. Talk about getting it up the ass. Lame.
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post #70 of 122
9/11/07 at 10:55pm
Thread Starter 
I went in today to a Big K-Mart I hardly ever go to (I hardly ever go to K-Mart, period, but this one was way out of town) and while browsing the DVD section I spied ten copies of Death Proof on the shelf.

After like 20 double-takes I took one and looked it over. Yep, it's the same one that's shipping NEXT WEEK. It had a sticker on the box and everything reminding you to buy Planet Terror and getting $5.00 off.

I skipped to the cashier and when they swiped it... BUZZ! Error, cannot sell before release date.

DAMMIT!

They realized they put 'em up early and took them down.

Boo!
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post #71 of 122
9/11/07 at 11:23pm
Walmart does that bullshit all the time. They had Bioshock (the video game) out a week early, and when I tried to buy it they were like "Oops, our bad".

It doesn't make much sense to me on why they split up Grindhouse for DVD release. If they felt it was a better idea fiscally, then why not just set the price for an ultimate collection the same price as both DVDs combined. The movie hardly made any money in theaters, and the people that went to go see it are the same people and types of fans that want to see them together. I'd say 99% of us would purchase any SE that they released.
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post #72 of 122
9/13/07 at 9:22am
Best Buy lists the different versions of Death Proof for $22.99 and $16.99 on their website, although I can't tell if the more expensive one is the steel book one.

I'll probably buy DP and rent PT, then buy the inevitable quadruple disc Kurt Russell bust/Rose McGowan Action figure box set.
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post #73 of 122
9/13/07 at 11:39am
Chris Poggiali's excellent review of the DEATH PROOF DVD (the first that I've seen) can be found, appropriately, at Fangoria.com:

http://fangoria.com/ghastly_review.php
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post #74 of 122
9/13/07 at 12:35pm
"If we take the first half of DEATH PROOF as a twist on THE YOUNG CYCLE GIRLS, then the second half is the backstory that explains the villain. In other words, the second segment of DEATH PROOF, with the four young women from the movie crew, takes place 14 months before the first part and not after, as the title card in the 114-minute cut suggests (there is no such card in the GRINDHOUSE version). Stuntman Mike was killed in Tennessee by the gals he had been harassing. He then returns from the dead when Jungle Julia reads the final verse of Robert Frost’s “Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening” over the radio—the same trigger Donald Pleasence uses to awaken KGB sleeper agents in the U.S. in the Charles Bronson movie TELEFON—to stalk the girls in the first segment. That would certainly qualify DEATH PROOF as a horror movie."

Hmm...That's quite the theory. And that was a great review as well.
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post #75 of 122
9/13/07 at 2:57pm
Wow, that is kind of wild. If you consider Mike being in the hospital as the "end", then it ends sort of like a horror movie--the killer escapes the "final conflict" alive...but will he arise to kill again? That kind of blows my mind about the whole movie now. And if you think about his tone in the 2 parts of the film, he's definitely more "playful" with the stunt girls in the 2nd part, whereas in the first part, he just kills them, period. He's playful in the bar, but when he's in the car, he doesn't screw around, he just kills them.

Definitely will be buying it next week.
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post #76 of 122
9/13/07 at 3:17pm
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Originally Posted by Martianman
Wow, that is kind of wild. If you consider Mike being in the hospital as the "end", then it ends sort of like a horror movie--the killer escapes the "final conflict" alive...but will he arise to kill again? That kind of blows my mind about the whole movie now. And if you think about his tone in the 2 parts of the film, he's definitely more "playful" with the stunt girls in the 2nd part, whereas in the first part, he just kills them, period. He's playful in the bar, but when he's in the car, he doesn't screw around, he just kills them.

Definitely will be buying it next week.
Plus he doesn't have the scar in the 2nd half.
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post #77 of 122
9/13/07 at 4:14pm
Well, no, he does have that scar in the second half. But I don't think it's enough to kill Chris's theory (a theory that, IMO, makes the film a considerably more interesting and rewarding experience).
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post #78 of 122
9/13/07 at 4:38pm
Wait, I'm confused. I watched the new cut last night and it said "14 months later" on the title card...
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post #79 of 122
9/13/07 at 4:56pm
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Originally Posted by le Stephanois
Wait, I'm confused. I watched the new cut last night and it said "14 months later" on the title card...
From the review:

"In other words, the second segment of DEATH PROOF, with the four young women from the movie crew, takes place 14 months before the first part and not after, as the title card in the 114-minute cut suggests (there is no such card in the GRINDHOUSE version). Stuntman Mike was killed in Tennessee by the gals he had been harassing."

He's stretching it, of course, but Chris seems to think that the U.S. theatrical version was to be interpreted as non-linear, unlike this new version.
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post #80 of 122
9/13/07 at 5:55pm
I disagree with that completely, as "14 months later" was in the shooting script; which goes against the idea it was intended to be non-linear.
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post #81 of 122
9/13/07 at 11:51pm
Everyone who thinks Death Proof is non-linear should have their skull axe-kicked in.
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post #82 of 122
9/14/07 at 1:39am
in the script it is there in big letters 14 MONTHS LATER.
so that end any debate over whther it is nonlinear unless you happen to live in opposite world.
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post #83 of 122
9/14/07 at 2:12am
Not to mention if that theory were true the conclusion would be a slightly busted up bed ridden ghost. I always appreciated Death Proof's two act structure as a way to turn it from a double feature into a triple feature, Tarantino even makes mention of this in the making of book...

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Originally Posted by Quentin Tarantino
By the time you reach the third act, you're not watching a horror movie anymore, you're watching a balls out action movie. And the girls are completely in charge, they're in control and he's running for his life. Now you're in a whole different movie from a slasher movie. All of a sudden, you're in a different genre. It crossed over. If you're going to duplicate the experience of watching our movies together, you couldn't take just a zombie movie and a slasher film and say that duplicates our experience, you can't. You would have to throw in Dirty Mary, Crazy Larry. You would have to make it a triple feature to truly get the aesthetic value of what our double feature is."
So in essence It's a triple feature of Planet Terror, Death Proof and Death Proof 2. The two segments of Death Proof are even joined by Michael and James Park walking throughout the hospital discussing the events of the first installment as if striding through a theatre lobby intermission.
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post #84 of 122
9/15/07 at 11:26am
But wait! But wait! There's a line in Planet Terror that talks about Jungle Julia's death. That means that Death Proof takes place BEFORE Planet Terror! See, Grindhouse is non-linear !!!111
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post #85 of 122
9/15/07 at 12:43pm
And yet Earl McGraw has managed to survive the sicko onslaught and resulting apocalypse of Planet Terror only to be gunned and burned down in From Dusk Til Dawn!

OMG, continuity!
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post #86 of 122
9/15/07 at 7:39pm
And McGraw's son also bits it in From Dusk Till Dawn 2.
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post #87 of 122
9/15/07 at 8:27pm
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Originally Posted by BubWilliams
And McGraw's son also bits it in From Dusk Till Dawn 2.
I've retconned myself to not having seen that movie.
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post #88 of 122
9/15/07 at 8:52pm
Wow, the non-linear/'he didn't have a scar' retard theory just refuses to die.
CUZ OMG PULP FICTION WAS LIKE THAT REMEMBER??
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post #89 of 122
9/15/07 at 8:57pm
I guess this answers the whole Earl McGraw thing.
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post #90 of 122
9/16/07 at 11:58am
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Originally Posted by wadew1
Wow, the non-linear/'he didn't have a scar' retard theory just refuses to die.
CUZ OMG PULP FICTION WAS LIKE THAT REMEMBER??
Yeah, it's like some people refuse to take Grindhouse for what it was and look for a deeper meaning. It's an exploitation-ish movie about a killer who gets the tables turned. Why must people look for a deeper meaning? It reminds me of when people kept trying to figure out the twist at the end of Signs, because The Sixth Sense and Unbreakable had twists.
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post #91 of 122
9/16/07 at 3:37pm
Thread Starter 
What movies is Planet Terror supposed to take after? It doesn't really seem grindhouse-y aside from the fact that it's gory and its plot is ridiculous. Are those the only elements that make it grindhouse? At least Death Proof has a shitload of movies it can be compared to.

So, yeah, what movies can Planet Terror compare to?
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post #92 of 122
9/16/07 at 3:57pm
Planet Terror is the NEW exploitation. All digital, very cheap, homegrown effects by Rodriguez, it's the new equivilient. The story is a typical alien invasion/zombie story with some other slasher and action elements added in, but unlike Death Proof, the aesthetic isn't supposed to be based off any movie of the past.

Where this interpretation breaks down is that he still goes and doing the missing reel gag, and the artificial film scratches all over it.
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post #93 of 122
9/16/07 at 4:20pm
Planet Terror is a living comic book, mostly EC comic style at least. I enjoyed most of the action stuff, but it would be mighty interesting to see it as a creepier movie where not every civilian has an automatic weapon.
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post #94 of 122
9/18/07 at 3:30pm
Just got the Death Proof Steel case. Saw the unrated cut and the dance scene is "titillating" to say the least. Now on a repeated viewing I can see the two-part nature. In case anyone is interested, the bonus disc contains a 24-minute piece with Q.T. and R.R. discussing grindhouse cinema.
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post #95 of 122
9/18/07 at 3:39pm
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Originally Posted by El Thain
In case anyone is interested, the bonus disc contains a 24-minute piece with Q.T. and R.R. discussing grindhouse cinema.
It's basically a fluff piece about their films, and not worth the extra 10 bucks or whatever.
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post #96 of 122
9/18/07 at 4:42pm
I changed my mind at the last second and opted out of the steel case and the extra $6 and bought the "regular" 2-disc set. I figured when the inevitable box set comes out, there will be some kind of cool casing, and whatever is on the bonus disc will be in the set (or on YouTube). Also will probably go ahead and use the $5 off coupon on PT. I couldn't figure out if the $5 coupon was in the steel box as well (because all that was touted was the extra DVD on the cover).
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post #97 of 122
9/18/07 at 5:30pm
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Originally Posted by BTSMGL
So, yeah, what movies can Planet Terror compare to?
Rodriguez and Tarantino have both said in interviews that PLANET TERROR was meant to be the "lost" John Carpenter movie. It's also heavily influenced by Lucio Fulci...particularly the Fulci who gave us THE BEYOND and CITY OF THE LIVING DEAD. Nicky Katt's handful-of-slime attack on Josh Brolin steals from the latter film (as well as De Palma's BODY DOUBLE with the bonesaw gag).

They've also claimed that a double feature most similar to their GRINDHOUSE project would be Fulci's ZOMBIE paired with Sergio Martino's TORSO.
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post #98 of 122
9/18/07 at 9:29pm
Well I held out. I had the steelbook in my hand at Best Buy(keep in mind I really love those things), then I put it down, opted for the "regular" version and stood in line. After standing there for a bit I said "fuck it" and put it back. I'm going to wait this time. I'm sick of being double and triple-dipped to death.
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post #99 of 122
9/18/07 at 9:56pm
I was awaiting the steelbook to come in the mail, but a friend of mine that manages a Blockbuster brought Death Proof over early.

It was so excruciating that I cancelled my steelbook before the movie ended. The extended version was fucking awful. Grindhouse remains a theater experience I will fondly look back on for a long time until they release the whole experience on one unbroken DVD someday in the future.
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post #100 of 122
9/18/07 at 10:13pm
I held out on Kill Bill. I can hold out for Grindhouse.
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