LOST - Season 4

For some reason the sound didn't work for me on the link. The source of the clip does work

It's in Spanish, the site, and it also has the Comi Con Lost panel.

I'm curious if this is actual footage to be aired on the show or just something for the Comic Con. If the former, I'm really intrigued about the dual #15 rabbits.

*Edit: This is interesting. It was posted in the comments to the site Matt posted:

Wasn't the bunny Ben faked having a heart attack with marked #15? If so, that's a long damn time for a bunny to live. Unless, of course, they just keep making copies of them.

The clip feels gaggy. Oh, and if you're having audio troubles, just fiddle with the volume slider- for some reason, it defaulted to mute on my machine until I adjusted the slider.

I recall it being marked #8.

It was indeed an 8.

Better posting this here than having another ChunkyLover thread about a crappy game.

This looks like Ana Lucia's face.

I really hope the show doesn't go in the time travel direction. I believe the show's creator actually debunked that at one point. I guess it could work but time travel stuff always feels so akward and always has plot holes.

I have been thinking about who is in the coffin at the end of the season three finale. I have also been rewatching the first season. In doing so, I have noticed some events that seem rather synchronous. Firstly, the episode in season one where Jack finds his dad's coffin is titled "White Rabbit." This aligns with the title of the season 3 finale, "Through the Looking Glass." I have also noticed that it is in this episode that Jack's father tells him that "he will never have what it takes to accept failure, if he is not able to save everyone." As we see in the season 3 finale, Jack obviously does not have what it it takes to deal with the failure of not saving everyone. I also noticed that the coffins in both episodes look suspiciously similar as can be seen on lostpedia. I then noticed the amount of anguish Jack is in when he is dealing with the death of his father in "White Rabbit." This is pretty parallel with the feelings Jack expresses in the season 3 finale. Jack opens the coffin in "White Rabbit" only to find no corpse. This infuriates Jack and he proceeds to smash the coffin with a bat. In the season 3 finale, when the funeral director asks Jack if he would like the coffin to be opened, Jack, with an extremely pained look on his face, almost like he is scared, says no. There is no one at the funeral. Jack asked his mother in "White Rabbit" why she doesn't send one of his father's friends to pick him up in Australia. She replies "He doesn't have any friends anymore." I don't know how or why, but I believe it is Christian Shepard in that coffin. I know Jack says he is neither friend nor family, but I just know it is Christian.

*edited to say: I have no inside information. This is just my theory.

" time travel stuff always feels so akward and always has plot holes."

I don't know if it's lost in the annals of the boards or not, but at some point HAM (I think) and I got into a serious discusion of plot holes, time travel, and the Terminator.

Time travel stories often have plot holes because the creator doesn't think it through. Conversely, those who are well mapped and thought out don't tend to have the plot holes, but people still claim they do because their brain doesn't think that way.


BTW...great board name

I'm pissed that Richard Alpert isn't coming back. They better at least kill him off. They can't introduce him and then just have him vanish off the island. He was being set up as a pretty important character.

Lindelof dug himself into a hole when he couldn't figure out how to make him more gay.

Where is it announced that Nelson Whateverhisname isn't coming back as Alpert?

Carbonel, I think. And I could have swore they said he would come back, but he would be very limited because he has a whole new show on some other channel. It'll probably get canceled anyway.

Am I particularly slow for not knowing anything about the real-life Richard Alpert? I'm assuming I just missed this being discussed before...

From Wikipedia:

I know that he is on CANE or whatever that Jimmy Smits show is on CBS. I don't think it will get canceled because it fits the CBS viewer demographic perfect (family drama).

I think at ComicCon, L&C were quoted as saying "don't get too attached to him" because of his new show. This leads me to believe that they aren't writing him in to many (if any) new episodes because of his commitment to Kane. They don't want to write for him if he's not going to be able to be in the show. The show might get canceled, but if Lost starts filming episodes in the fall he'll still be unavailable. Yikes.

This is sucky news. He's the one new character that I'm dying to learn more info about.

Back to the coffin...

...is it just me, or does anyone else think that coffin looked a little small?

I don't know why this hadn't been brought up much... unless I'm just seeing things.

If you're slow, I'm slow, too (and, no, I don't think it's been discussed here before). The name rang a bell for me, but I didn't think to look it up. I think this may be the first time they've re-purposed the name of a person who's still alive.

Why does every mention of Lost turn into a discussion about who was in the coffin?

Well, it was one of the biggest mysteries left over after the third season cliffhanger.

I still think it's Michael, despite the fact that he IS returning to the cast, which is great news...

Some rumored casting...

Source: http://www.tvsquad.com/2007/08/08/be...-to-join-lost/

Peter Stormare is an anagram for "More Rat Streep". Meryl in a villain role, anyone???

This show could only benefit from some Stormare injection. Hell, Prison Break was watchable when he was there.

Maybe Stormare could be Patchy Magoo's equally invincible brother.

The Bell casting is pretty exciting, also . . . She was great on Veronica Mars, and did a fine job of getting her head beaten in on Deadwood.

Also, MERE TRAP STORE.

Sad that Bell turned in such great work for three years and isn't immediately offered some decent movie roles. Or at least another show of her own.

Considering Pulse, I'd say that Lost isn't the worse that could happen, but she definitely deserve her own vehicle.

Stormare and Bell casting rumors shot down...

Well, it was good while it lasted...

Source: http://www.tvsquad.com/2007/08/11/so...-joining-lost/

What the hell is going on in Kristin Bell's pretty little head?

She doesn't want to join the cast of Lost because:

1.She doesn't want to move to Hawaii.
2.She's busy starring in a Broadway adaptation of Legally Blonde.

Wow.

I didn't realize that Lance Reddick has joined the cast this year. Glad to see some of The Wire vets getting some work. I wonder if he will have some connection to Eko or just be a new character?

judging by the beard FAhey has in EW I'll guess he's Jacob. Not a fan of the Fahey. Can't believe he was the only choice for any role.

Anya, you suck.

Reddick and Jeremy Davies are also interesting/great choices. And I thought Leung was pretty good on The Sopranos.

I want my Stormare.

Did Fahey got the role Stormare was up for?

Regarding the "flash-forward" in the season three finale, I am quite curious if that will be the new trend: I.E., rather than flash backs, we will now have flash-forwards depicting the characters after they have been rescued. Of course, this brings up a very big question in my mind: was Jack's flash-forward, and any that may follow, shadows of things that WILL be, or things that MAY be?

Fahey's great because, among other reasons, he hasn't had that defining role yet. As much as I love Veronica Mars, I was a bit worried when I heard Bell was maybe up for a role. Fahey and Reddick - excellent.

- There will be both.
- What do you mean "may be"...like an alternate reality or something? Oh fucking Christ...

haha not an alternate reality per say....was going more for an Ebenezer Scrooge, Christmas Carol, Ghost of Christmas Future thing.....sort of like a warning, a "this is what would happen if they actually got off the island".

That is an alternate future kinda scenario and I highly doubt they would do something like that. I think whatever we see actually occurs.

The thing is, it's looking more and more like time travel is going to become a factor in the story, so I don't think that's too far off. It would certainly help the show get around the problem of keeping the dramatic interest up despite the flash forwards.

"Keeping the dramatic interest up"? If there's one thing this show has done, it's kept me interested. Even while enduring Ana-Lucia and Bai Ling The Tattoo Artist Of Mystery, I haven't been bored. Seething with rage, maybe, but not bored.

You know it's funny this show doesn't frustrate me as much as others. I think the reason is because im a more recent fan. It was only about 3 months ago that I finally got into Lost. Instead of watching the episodes over 3 years I watched all 3 seasons within something like 3 weeks. So I didn't feel that frstration that the show wasn't going anyhere because I always knew there would be another episode plus I heard the season 3 finale was great so I knew I had something to look forward too. I was able to just sit back and enjoy the characters and the slow moving story. Although I suspect when season 4 starts I will join the ranks of the rest of the Lost fans.

I watched the first 2 seasons on DVD . . . I watched it live this year for the first time, and it took a while to adjust to commercials. The 2-month hiatus after 6 episodes didn't help.

However, once it came back, I was along for the ride and had a blast with the second half of the season (with one previously mentioned exception). I look forward to re-watching S3 on DVD, especially that first "pod".

What I mean is that now that they're switching to flash-forwards, there's a very strong potential to suck all the tension out of the island sequences, since we know that, at the very least, Jack and Kate get off the island. And as the flash-forwards continue, we'll learn more and more about who got off the island, who's still alive, and so on. It will make dramatic storytelling difficult, is what I'm saying. A time travel element would be one way of getting around that.

There are going to be both flash-forwards AND flashbacks. I'm not sure how much of "the future" is going to be revealed, but the flashbacks are still a big part of the show.

If they break out constant time travel and alternate realities, I might break my TV.

Podcast was quietly updated a few weeks ago, with the LOST panel from ComicCon. It will be interesting to see how they juggle the flashforwards with the flashbacks.

I'm just saying that even a few flash-forwards can "spoil" a lot. Like I say, we already know what happens to Jack and Kate. That's a big deal. It takes away from the dramatic tension anytime, say, Jack's life appears to be at risk. Unless it's all a big fakeout, of course.

I can't help thinking that Jack, in the present, would want to go back and somehow "fix" something that went wrong back on the island. So he may have an opportunity to go back in time. I could be completely wrong, of course, but it fits with the narrative structure they've got going.