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post #1 of 70
7/29/07 at 11:16pm
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I've been ripping my CDs to my hard drive to free up some shelf space, and I came across 90125 by Yes. Now normally, I think Yes is pretentious meandering art rock and generally can't stand them. But damn, I love this album. Sure, you can argue it's a few generations removed from classic Yes, but there's enough original band members in there to make it count as legit. And it struck me as odd that a band I generally can't take made one of my favorite albums of the 80s.

Anyone else have a band they generally loathe yet has that one buried treasure for you?
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post #2 of 70
7/29/07 at 11:38pm
I hate Led Zeppelin minus Rock and Roll and Misty Mountain Hop. Flame away. I do appreciate how significant they were for the time and how great they were as a band however, it's just not my thing and I can't see the heaps of praise minus John Bonham.
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post #3 of 70
7/29/07 at 11:47pm
Britney Spears - "You Drive Me Crazy" and "Lucky"
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post #4 of 70
7/29/07 at 11:59pm
Here's my shame...I like "Photograph" by Nickelback. I realize that it's a horrible song with a bad hook and trite lyrics but I like the song.
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post #5 of 70
7/30/07 at 12:04am
I'm not that big a Deftones fan but I still love the shit out of White Pony. All of it.
I've owned a few of their other CDs(and heard them all), but something has always felt "off" about them, I can't explain it.
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post #6 of 70
7/30/07 at 12:31am
Hate U2 except for "The Sweetest Thing"

Hate The Killers except for "When You Were Young"

Hate Sting except for... no, Hate Sting
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post #7 of 70
7/30/07 at 2:25am
The White Stripes. Can't stand em, still not sure what the relation between them is, but I'll be damned if I don't jam along to 'Seven Nation Army'.
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post #8 of 70
7/30/07 at 2:47am
killers-when you were young...
good call.
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post #9 of 70
7/30/07 at 5:46am
fall out boy except for this one video on them from youtube performing three songs acoustic in someones apartment. have no idea how i stumbled upon it, but damn if it isnt great.
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post #10 of 70
7/30/07 at 9:31am
Usually, Bright Eyes tends to make me wish i was born deaf. That said, I can't really explain why I love The Calendar Hung Itself but I do, his version of Sunrise Sunset is actually genuine quality, and When the President Talks To God is simple, but well done.
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post #11 of 70
7/31/07 at 2:25am
I liked Toxic by Britney Spears in a way.
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post #12 of 70
8/1/07 at 3:18pm
When trapped inside someone else's car, forced to listen to 'classic' rock radio, Hotel California always gets an except at the end of "God, I hate The Eagles..."
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post #13 of 70
8/1/07 at 3:22pm
"More Than a Feeling" - Boston
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post #14 of 70
8/1/07 at 3:29pm
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Originally Posted by MissZooey
"More Than a Feeling" - Boston
Ditto. Guitar Hero gave me a whole new appreciation for that song.
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post #15 of 70
8/1/07 at 3:29pm
I have to admit, I like that insturmental on the first Boston album, the one that leads into "Long Time."
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post #16 of 70
8/1/07 at 3:31pm
I also really, really love "Toccata" by ELP. Other than that, they can fuck off.
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post #17 of 70
8/1/07 at 4:10pm
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Originally Posted by MissZooey
"More Than a Feeling" - Boston
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post #18 of 70
8/1/07 at 4:11pm
I HATE NSync. But that one song where they're flung around like marionettes and run around on top of a train.... That was some catchy-ass shit!
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post #19 of 70
8/1/07 at 4:19pm
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Originally Posted by Dr. Strange
I hate Led Zeppelin minus Rock and Roll and Misty Mountain Hop. Flame away. I do appreciate how significant they were for the time and how great they were as a band however, it's just not my thing and I can't see the heaps of praise minus John Bonham.
This is like the old "sue me, I hate The Beatles" argument kids like to get in.
Can't see the praise? Yeah Page and Plant never influenced anybody.





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Also - There's a lot of great Boston songs, and 90125 is the first YES album to be completely devoid of any artistic value.
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post #20 of 70
8/1/07 at 4:40pm
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Originally Posted by Ryan S~
So, um, not a fan, Ryan?
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post #21 of 70
8/1/07 at 4:46pm
I'll say:
The Killers - Mr. Brightside (I can't help it, I love working out to this song)

Also, everything by Dexy's Midnight Runners except for Come on Eileen. Ba-Zing!

Edit: I'm totally bored by The Boy Least Likely To, except for:
Be Gentle With Me
I'm Glad I Hitched My Apple Wagon to Your Star
Faith (acoustic cover of George Michael)
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post #22 of 70
8/1/07 at 4:49pm
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Originally Posted by Andrew Collins
This is like the old "sue me, I hate The Beatles" argument kids like to get in.
Can't see the praise? Yeah Page and Plant never influenced anybody.
Agreed. Arguing against Zeppelin is just silly.

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Also - There's a lot of great Boston songs, and 90125 is the first YES album to be completely devoid of any artistic value.
I think I've mentioned this before, but I like most Boston songs that don't have to do with smoking, partying, and/or rock and/or rolling (up through Third Stage, at least). They're a great sensitive-guy ballad and love song band, but a completely unconvincing loose and good times-celebratin' rock'n'roll band.

I also still have a lot of affection for parts of 90125. You just have to accept that Yes is out of its "let's see if we can get serious music fans to accept our amazing instrumental prowess" stage and in its "let's see if we can get pop music fans to accept our amazing instrumental prowess" stage. I actually prefer it, in many ways, to their proggier classics.
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post #23 of 70
8/1/07 at 5:26pm
I can't stand U2, except for their materialistic period--Actung, Baby! through Pop!..even though about half of the latter album sucks. Hardcore fans seem to disown this period, but I think its the only time Bono (the worst part of a great, great band) is tolerable.

Same with Zeppelin...great band but Robert Plant ruins it for me. As a bassist, I can honestly say that John Paul-Jones is one of the greatest in rock. Bonham gets all the love but JPJ is what makes it all work--particularly on their artier stuff.
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post #24 of 70
8/1/07 at 5:35pm
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Originally Posted by Andrew Collins
This is like the old "sue me, I hate The Beatles" argument kids like to get in.
Can't see the praise? Yeah Page and Plant never influenced anybody.

They can influence whoever the hell they want. For me, they do nothing. Get over it.
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post #25 of 70
8/1/07 at 5:44pm
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Originally Posted by MissZooey
So, um, not a fan, Ryan?
Not so much that and more I've been dying to use that picture. Sometimes you just have to amuse yourself. Work is kinda boring today...
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post #26 of 70
8/1/07 at 5:48pm
That picture is a thing of beauty. Usefulness wise.
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post #27 of 70
8/1/07 at 5:49pm
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Originally Posted by DaveB

I also still have a lot of affection for parts of 90125. You just have to accept that Yes is out of its "let's see if we can get serious music fans to accept our amazing instrumental prowess" stage and in its "let's see if we can get pop music fans to accept our amazing instrumental prowess" stage. I actually prefer it, in many ways, to their proggier classics.
I think Changes and Leave It are two of the better songs in their catalogue. And despite getting overplayed Owner of a Lonely Heart is still a pretty good tune.
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post #28 of 70
8/1/07 at 6:00pm
The first time I found out it was YES that performed Owner of a Lonely Heart (years and years ago now) I almost fell out of my chair. I had no clue for the longest time. That said, for what it is it is a damn good song.
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post #29 of 70
8/1/07 at 6:08pm
Fall-Out Boy's "Thnks fr th Mmrs" actually is really well-produced and has a GREAT hook. The rest of their work can go fall off a cliff for all I care.
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post #30 of 70
8/1/07 at 6:14pm
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Originally Posted by elektro87
I can't stand U2, except for their materialistic period--Actung, Baby! through Pop!.
I'm just the opposite. As far as I'm concerned, they walked on water up through Unforgettable Fire, Joshua Tree and Achtung (which I actually prefer over Joshua) are kind of hit and miss, and then I just lost interest.

And while I couldn't give a damn for the rest of her music, I have to admit I find the chorus from Fergie's "Big Girls Don't Cry" kind of catchy.
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post #31 of 70
8/1/07 at 6:15pm
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Originally Posted by elektro87
Bono (the worst part of a great, great band)
Oddly enough, I can't disagree with that.
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post #32 of 70
8/1/07 at 7:22pm
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Originally Posted by Patrick Ripoll
Fall-Out Boy's "Thnks fr th Mmrs" actually is really well-produced and has a GREAT hook. The rest of their work can go fall off a cliff for all I care.
Just as long as "Thnks fr the Mmrs" manages to grab "Sugar, We're Going Down" by the wrist as their entire catalog tumbles into the abyss, I'll agree. I can't explain it, but that "I'll be your number one with a bullet" gets me every single damn time.

I'm going to go back to pretending I'm cooler than this now.
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post #33 of 70
8/1/07 at 7:43pm
To hop on to the U2 wagon, I pretty much loath everything but the Zooropa album. "Numb" (sung by The Edge) and "The Wanderer" (sung by Johnny Cash). Hm.

Shaggy, by and large, pisses me off, but I still wiggle in the middle every time I hear "Boombastic".
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post #34 of 70
8/1/07 at 8:46pm
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Originally Posted by liquidchicken
To hop on to the U2 wagon, I pretty much loath everything but the Zooropa album. "Numb" (sung by The Edge) and "The Wanderer" (sung by Johnny Cash). Hm.

Shaggy, by and large, pisses me off, but I still wiggle in the middle every time I hear "Boombastic".

Yeah, two of my favorite U2 songs (I should point out that I'm a fool for 'Beautiful Day', too...until Bono does that terrible falsetto thing at the end--te-eE-EE-ch me, like Edge just goosed him).


And wiggle in the middle. Ha! That's great.
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post #35 of 70
8/1/07 at 9:41pm
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Originally Posted by Dr. Strange
They can influence whoever the hell they want. For me, they do nothing. Get over it.
Don't say things like "Get over it" to me.



Re: U2 - Actung! Zooropa, and Pop are their 3 best albums. "Get over it".
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post #36 of 70
8/1/07 at 11:07pm
I LOATHE The Cure, but I think 'Pictures of You" is one of the best songs ever written. Robert Smith is the perfect whiny bitch to get all that angst expresed.
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post #37 of 70
8/2/07 at 12:30am
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Originally Posted by Andrew Collins
Re: U2 - Actung! Zooropa, and Pop are their 3 best albums. "Get over it".
One out of three ain't bad. Achtung's definitely up there, but I don't get the Zooropa and Pop appeal. They just seem like such obvious weak entries in a catalog that has shit like Joshua Tree, Unforgettable Fire, and War in it. I even like parts of the last one better than Pop and Zooropa.

Oh, yeah. "Get over it."
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post #38 of 70
8/2/07 at 12:43am
...Edit.
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post #39 of 70
8/2/07 at 2:59am
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Originally Posted by DaveB
One out of three ain't bad. Achtung's definitely up there, but I don't get the Zooropa and Pop appeal. They just seem like such obvious weak entries in a catalog that has shit like Joshua Tree, Unforgettable Fire, and War in it. I even like parts of the last one better than Pop and Zooropa.

Oh, yeah. "Get over it."
They can just be so earnest and self-righteous. And, as a fan of the Boss, I can understand that. But something about their politics being so overtly presented and the anthemic quality of the music can make me a little nauseous.

Admittedly, part of the appeal of Zooropa and Pop! is that they invert or blatantly send-up these aspects of their sound. Oh and with Zooropa and Passengers...you know, there's Eno. Lots and lots of Eno.
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post #40 of 70
8/2/07 at 4:40am
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Originally Posted by Patrick Ripoll
Fall-Out Boy's "Thnks fr th Mmrs" actually is really well-produced and has a GREAT hook. The rest of their work can go fall off a cliff for all I care.
Both "Thnks fr the Mmrs" and "This ain't a Scene" are good catchy songs. And "oddly" enough, those're the only 2 songs on the album that were produced by Babyface.
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post #41 of 70
8/2/07 at 8:59am
Coldplay. I don't hate the band really...I just think they make benign, innocuous music that yuppie America has decided to overplay into Orwellian levels of saturation.

That having been said, I will defend The Scientist to my grave as easily one of the best pop songs written this decade.
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post #42 of 70
8/2/07 at 9:16am
I, by and large, hate singer/songwriteres of the Rufus Wainwright/James Blunt/Tom McCrae variety. And I hold no love for Jeff Buckley, just cos, well, I don't get what is quite so special apart from the fact he's dead. That said, his version of Hallelujah is spine-tinglingly good. Not through and through, just compared to the other 423 versions out there.
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post #43 of 70
8/2/07 at 10:41am
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Originally Posted by sackley
I, by and large, hate singer/songwriteres of the Rufus Wainwright/James Blunt/Tom McCrae variety. And I hold no love for Jeff Buckley, just cos, well, I don't get what is quite so special apart from the fact he's dead. That said, his version of Hallelujah is spine-tinglingly good. Not through and through, just compared to the other 423 versions out there.
I wouldn't put Wainwright and Blunt in the same category but I get your point...
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post #44 of 70
8/2/07 at 11:17am
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Originally Posted by Ryan S~
I wouldn't put Wainwright and Blunt in the same category but I get your point...
Wainwright and Buckley are nothing like those other shmoes that sackley mentioned. Wainwright and Buckley aren't even that similar, although there are some pretty obvious nods to Buckley in Wainwright's music.

This isn't even so much a matter of taste as it is proveable fact - Hendrix doesn't sound like Michael Bolton, Ella Fitzgerald doesn't sound like Maroon 5, and Jeff Buckley doesn't sound like James Blunt. At all.
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post #45 of 70
8/2/07 at 11:42am
To continue the mini-pile-on, I have to ask: which Rufus Wainwright have you been listening to?
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post #46 of 70
8/2/07 at 12:07pm
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Originally Posted by DaveB
Wainwright and Buckley are nothing like those other shmoes that sackley mentioned. Wainwright and Buckley aren't even that similar, although there are some pretty obvious nods to Buckley in Wainwright's music.

This isn't even so much a matter of taste as it is proveable fact - Hendrix doesn't sound like Michael Bolton, Ella Fitzgerald doesn't sound like Maroon 5, and Jeff Buckley doesn't sound like James Blunt. At all.
When did I say they sound alike? I said they are singer-songwriters. That much they do have in common. That and the fact I don't much care for them. I'd dump Damien Rice and Stephen Fretwell in that fray too.
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post #47 of 70
8/2/07 at 12:09pm
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Originally Posted by sackley
I, by and large, hate singer/songwriteres of the Rufus Wainwright/James Blunt/Tom McCrae variety. And I hold no love for Jeff Buckley, just cos, well, I don't get what is quite so special apart from the fact he's dead. That said, his version of Hallelujah is spine-tinglingly good. Not through and through, just compared to the other 423 versions out there.
Buckley's been hyped through the roof for a decade, and I can understand not loving his songs - but back in the midst of 1995/96/97, his arrival was a stunning one-of-a-kind breath of air compared to the Garbage/Oasis/Puffy landscape of most of the music being heard (and even HE wasn't being heard until later). His talent was undeniable, and most singer-songwriters of the Jack Johnson variety have very deniable talent in comparison.

But I know what yer saying.
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post #48 of 70
8/2/07 at 1:36pm
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Originally Posted by sackley
When did I say they sound alike? I said they are singer-songwriters. That much they do have in common. That and the fact I don't much care for them. I'd dump Damien Rice and Stephen Fretwell in that fray too.
Yeah, might as well dump Dylan, Serge Gainsbourg, Bob Seger, Courtney Love, and Tom Waits in there, too. They're singer-songwriters.
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post #49 of 70
8/2/07 at 1:59pm
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Originally Posted by DaveB
Yeah, might as well dump Dylan, Serge Gainsbourg, Bob Seger, Courtney Love, and Tom Waits in there, too. They're singer-songwriters.
You've got a point but, at the same time, Sackley seems to be ragging on the ultra-sensitive types. Granted, stylistically those artists that he's lumped are are radically different...but all of 'em wanna be loved, particularly by you, most of the time.

Waits and Dylan, on the other hand, would just as soon give you a punch in the chops as ask for a hug.
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post #50 of 70
8/2/07 at 4:06pm
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Originally Posted by DaveB
Yeah, might as well dump Dylan, Serge Gainsbourg, Bob Seger, Courtney Love, and Tom Waits in there, too. They're singer-songwriters.
I would like to declare a moratorium on using Bob Seger, Courtney Love and Tom Waits in the same sentence...unless the sentence is "Tom Waits bludgeons Courtney Love to death with Bob Seger's right arm"
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