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Batman getting the Animatrix treatment?

post #1 of 35
8/2/07 at 7:08pm
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I just saw this at Batman-on-Film (I swear I'm not a shill for their site, it's just the Dark Knight news usually shows up there first). It's a link to an article that says that the people at Warner Bros. who produced those DC animated movies are doing one for Batman. Allegedly it's being written by people like David Goyer and one of the screenwriters on A History of Violence. It's supposed to be set in the Nolan movie universe, between Batman Begins and TDK, and will be done in an anime style not unlike The Animatrix. There will be some loose ends tied up from the first film, some plot points introduced from the second, and we'll see how a few Batman characters who will never make it into the films figure into the equation. Sounds like the first two thirds of it might be okay. Take it with a massive grain of kosher salt though, since the teaser description they posted was way off.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=123595
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post #2 of 35
8/2/07 at 7:48pm
Batman Begins third-act hate in 3...2...1...
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post #3 of 35
8/2/07 at 7:52pm
Paul McCartney:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_structure_(Film)
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post #4 of 35
8/2/07 at 8:40pm
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You know, the third act thing is almost not funny anymore...almost. I bet it'll have one last hurrah as we get closer to the movie. And if the third act of TDK is actually terrible, it will go on forever in an "only the even numbered Star Treks are good" way.

But, how many of you would want to see something like this, if it ends up being real? I only liked about half the stories and styles in The Animatrix, so I don't know if this one would work better with a variety of animation or one standard style with guest writers. I guess, if that's the case, maybe it's better to compare it to something like Clone Wars, which I dug a lot and actually increased my enjoyment of the movie that followed.
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post #5 of 35
8/2/07 at 11:44pm
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Originally Posted by Gary Sherman
You know, the third act thing is almost not funny anymore...almost. I bet it'll have one last hurrah as we get closer to the movie. And if the third act of TDK is actually terrible, it will go on forever in an "only the even numbered Star Treks are good" way.
In other film news, The Matrix Reloaded was disappointing, and Jar Jar Binks annoys people.
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post #6 of 35
8/3/07 at 1:01am
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You forgot that George Lucas raped your childhood and Live Free or Die Hard should have been rated R.
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post #7 of 35
8/3/07 at 9:49am
Getting back on topic and away from the tired-ass Batman Begins arguments: All depends on who's writing it, really, but, the "Legends of the Dark Knight" episode of the animated series had the better idea, and while one segment done as anime would be kinda neat, doing the whole anthology as such just doesn't fit like it did for The Matrix.
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post #8 of 35
8/3/07 at 10:21am
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Originally Posted by Crow
Getting back on topic and away from the tired-ass Batman Begins arguments: All depends on who's writing it, really, but, the "Legends of the Dark Knight" episode of the animated series had the better idea, and while one segment done as anime would be kinda neat, doing the whole anthology as such just doesn't fit like it did for The Matrix.
Right, because we've all seen how well the anime influence has done at the current Batman animated series...I'll never understand why everything these days needs to be turned into anime.
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post #9 of 35
8/3/07 at 10:33am
I don't know, it actually sounds like a pretty good idea. The Animatrix sucked more because it was bullshit stories about the Matrix featuring characters and concepts no sane person gave a damn dick about. If this were done similarly to the Batman : Black & White anthologies, it could be very interesting.
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post #10 of 35
8/3/07 at 10:37am
Well, they better get decent writers this time around, the "animated comic book" thing on the steelbook DVD for Batman Begins was terrible.
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post #11 of 35
8/3/07 at 11:16am
I wonder if Dc would ever do animated DTDVD movies based on great comic mini series or even one shots. Dark Night Returns,Killing Joke or Kingdom Come
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post #12 of 35
8/3/07 at 11:30am
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Originally Posted by Ashxking2001
I wonder if Dc would ever do animated DTDVD movies based on great comic mini series or even one shots. Dark Night Returns,Killing Joke or Kingdom Come
They're doing them now. Superman/Doomsday is out soon, to be followed by New Frontier.
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post #13 of 35
8/3/07 at 11:34am
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It looks like the direct to DVD animated comic book movie will be around for a while. Marvel did pretty well with The Ultimates, and now DC's getting into the game. This might actually be a good format for some of the stuff that might be "unfilmable," like the big crossover arcs or even some of the Vertigo titles.
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post #14 of 35
8/3/07 at 11:52am
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Originally Posted by Gary Sherman
Right, because we've all seen how well the anime influence has done at the current Batman animated series...I'll never understand why everything these days needs to be turned into anime.
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post #15 of 35
8/3/07 at 12:12pm
That's not really anime.
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post #16 of 35
8/3/07 at 12:22pm
It's still anime-influenced/hideously over-stylized though.
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post #17 of 35
8/3/07 at 12:27pm
Got to agree with Slade on that one. Not to mention that Spider-Man has just gotten the Jackie Chan adventures treatment.
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post #18 of 35
8/3/07 at 12:28pm
I wouldn't really call that "anime influenced". Just saying "anime" is such a nebulous, vague term, because it's not like there's one unifying style. People thought the original Batman animated series was "anime influenced", when Timm was instead influenced by people like Alex Toth and Jack Kirby. Influences have become so intermingled that it's impossible to really define them anymore. There are stylistic tics evident in a lot of anime, but that image doesn't really share many of them. It's got more of an influence in the flat cartooning style of artists like Humberto Ramos or Sean Galloway (Hellboy Animated designer), with a little bit of Stephen Silver on the hands there. It's not very good, anyway.
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post #19 of 35
8/3/07 at 12:28pm
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Originally Posted by Brad Millette
Just saying "anime" is such a nebulous, vague term, because it's not like there's one unifying style.
Yeah, if you wanna be emo about it.
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post #20 of 35
8/3/07 at 12:30pm
Or just not lazy about it.
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post #21 of 35
8/3/07 at 12:30pm
Ah yes Humberto "Big Eyes" Ramos, can't say much about that except just how in the hell did "Out There" end?
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post #22 of 35
8/3/07 at 12:39pm
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Originally Posted by Brad Millette
Or just not lazy about it.
OK, I'll admit I couldn't be bothered to watch enough anime not to generalize about it. And the emo thing was a joke about vague, nebulous terms.
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post #23 of 35
8/3/07 at 12:39pm
I know.
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post #24 of 35
8/3/07 at 1:13pm
Those Transformers designs are ugly as Charles Grodindick.
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post #25 of 35
8/3/07 at 1:15pm
Please try to stay on topic. Batman Begins falls apart in the third act.
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post #26 of 35
8/3/07 at 3:28pm
This could be cool if it's the Ninja Scroll type anime guys who worked on Animatrix: Program. That stuff looks more like an actual comic book, than the kiddie toons we get.
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post #27 of 35
8/3/07 at 4:08pm
Get the team behind Street Sharks to do it.
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post #28 of 35
8/3/07 at 4:11pm
That'd be jawsome.
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post #29 of 35
8/3/07 at 4:52pm
Ironically, Street Sharks falls apart in the FIRST act.
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post #30 of 35
8/3/07 at 4:55pm
It fell apart in the actual Act of coming up with the idea. Weirdly though it is still jawsome.
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post #31 of 35
8/3/07 at 5:48pm
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Originally Posted by Brad Millette
I don't know, it actually sounds like a pretty good idea... If this were done similarly to the Batman : Black & White anthologies, it could be very interesting.
I agree with Brad here. There's a ton of materials to glean from and some short stand-alone segments would be great. B&W is a good example.

I still want to see an animated adaptation of Mignola's LOTDK comic or the Loeb/Sale Long Halloween or even some of the Elseworlds stuff (Gotham by Gaslight).

I don't like the idea of limiting the stories to just stuff between the 2 flicks though.

EDIT: If you really go nuts on various DTV incarnations, they could do a "Heavy Metal type anthology" flick and have Batman meet up with Lobo in one segment and Judge Dredd in another (all in the Simon Bisley art-style).
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post #32 of 35
8/3/07 at 6:53pm
Now at least some of the Matrix short stories they comissioned before the first film were in fact good.
Or at least the Gaiman one.

But yes- doing this in the style of Black and White would be an excellent idea.
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post #33 of 35
8/3/07 at 7:18pm
Hey Bruce Timm make me a Hitman cartoon series GO
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post #34 of 35
8/6/07 at 6:31pm
Yeah, instead of an "anime" collection I'd prefer something along the lines of the LOTDK episode of BTAS. Do a 1939 story of The Bat-Man. A late 40s Sprang influenced tale. An Infantino-esque "New Look" story. An adaptation of something like "Night of the Stalker" or "Secret of the Waiting Graves".

There are so many possibilities to work with to celebrate the character's history, as we approach the 70th anniversary, that this seems particularly unimaginative.
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post #35 of 35
8/6/07 at 7:13pm
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Since this seems more like a Batman Begins 1.5, I don't think any of those cool things people have mentioned will happen. Since I like the Nolan Bat-universe, I'm cautiously optimistic about this project, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't love to see them adapt some of the better stories or try their hand at some adventurous Elseworlds stuff for future releases.
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