2007 NFL Season - Page 3

At least we're still in it. It would be hilarious if Lemon grabbed the starting slot. And a little depressing.

No one at this point deserves the starting spot.

Ginn is doing a great job of running out of bounds.

He's running for his life pretty much.

John Beck was the Qb when Miami scored their only TD against KC. He even ran for the 2 pt conversion. Week 3 John Beck should play with the first team to see how he would fare as the starter.

If I'd paid money to watch that game, "pissed" wouldn't begin to adequately describe how I'd feel.

I was entertained by the MNF crew and Kornheiser nailing the current despair of the Dolphin fans.

Beck looked alright, but it wasn't against any real competition. All it proved was that he's not a complete waste.

Everytime Ronnie Brown touches the ball, including his kick return (why?), I pray for his knees. He looked great out there. Actually the Dolphins front 7 looked pretty good as well, especially considering Taylor, Thomas and Porter weren't in the lineup. The Dolphins' secondary is balls.

jcassady, To think that Nick Saban's specialty was defensive backs. Ronnie Brown should only return kicks in Madden 08. I still say, until Miami drafts a gamebreaking wr or te they will not be too special on offense. I would also like to see more of Reagan Mauia at FB after his great block sprung Jesse Chatman for a 77 yard td against Jacksonville.

[blindhomer]Didja see the Pack's D vs the Hawks? Soopah Bolllll bay-bee[/blindhomer]

Naw, it's only preseason, but it's tough NOT to feel good when your team bitchslaps the opponent up and down the field all night. Atari Bigby appears to be making a play for starting SS (displacing former Seahawk/current disappointment Marquand Manuel) and the first team offense and run game performed efficiently against Seattle's #1 D.

when nobody runs anything near what they run in the regular season. Indy was 1-3 last preseason. Not to dampen your joy but it's meaningless.

Only thing you want out of preason is no injuries.

What the hell does Ernest Graham have to do to see the field during the regular season for the Bucs? Both him and Darby looked like better runners than Cadillac, and it wasn't just a matter of who they were playing against.

Well, duh. Or did you not notice the [blindhomer] tags.

Still, if you have the option between seeing your team do well in the preseason or suck in the preseason, which would you prefer your team do?

Caddy looks old. And he's what, 25? Last year took more out of him than I think the Bucs want to admit.

Go Steelers go.

And he's got back problems. Never a good thing.

Even though it's only preseason, the Raiders are looking pretty good. The D is already there and should only get better, Culpepper is looking great, Porter is back, Curry is healthy, Jordan (shockingly) looks quicker, the o-line is playing great (Tom Cable must be a genius), they have their first real TE since maybe Todd Christensen, and did I mention their D? The Raiders are going to shock the world!

Six wins would shock me.

heh, hell paso is this your obligatory "Raiders could be good" post in pre-season?

The Raiders will be solid. They have a top 5 D and if their offense is simply "poor" they will win 6 games. The offense is gonna be better then poor, though. 7-8 wins is realistic (now that Culpepper looks to be a go from the start), playoffs next year and Super Bowl in '09. You heard it here first.

I'm not that optimistic, but I'll say 6 wins is within reach. If they somehow get to 8-8, I'll be going ridiculously pleased.

What worries me is the development of JaMarcus Russell. I would have been disappointed, but fine with it had he missed a portion of training camp but gotten in for some of it. Now that he's missed all of training camp, however, he's going to be pretty far behind everyone else on the team. I'm confident he'll be signed before the regular season, but I wouldn't put anything past the Raiders front office (And I say this with the Raiders being my favorite team).

Another thing: If I hear another Raider fan suggest that Russell should go back to the draft next year, I'm gonna fucking explode.

Russell wasn't playing this year anyways so his holdout isn't that big of a deal. Missing preseason games hurts but it's not the end of the world.

I'd like to be happy for the Raiders, but how could I ever support a team of degenerates?

Now Hell Paso, how the hell are you already so high on Culpepper? The guy barely got there, and sure he has completed some passes and seems to be more mobile, but I personally have 0 faith in the guy after the Miami debacle. I don't feel he has shown anything worthy of a 6-7 win prediction. I really don't see that raiders line keeping culpepper healthy throughout the season.

I imagine Russell will be starting games by week 6 or 7.

Those passing numbers are pretty good no doubt - however, their rushing totals make it look as though opponents weren't passing because they could jam the ball down their throats. Which skews the total yd numbers. Same reason Green Bay's D finished high in the total defense rankings in '05.


Check out the numbers for Indy's deplorable regular season D from last year:

Did well against the pass, poorly against the run. Similar to the Raiders numbers in many ways.

Green Bay from '05:

You....Are...A....Fucking...Jackass!

You make it sound as if teams were running the ball at will verses the Raiders. A fair assessment towards their run D is YPA. They were 12th in the league, which is above average. Teams didn't throw on the Raiders because 1) it's the strength of their team and 2) they were always down!!! The Raiders have the best starting corners in the league. Nobody knows who Nnamdi Asomugha is but let me tell you he's fucking unreal. Fabian Washington is one of the better #2 corners in the league. Did I mention how they're only going to get better? Ever hear of Kirk Morrison and Thomas Howard? I didn't think so!

He brings instant credibility to the team. They haven't had that since Gannon. I'm blown away at how 6 or 7 wins is considered a huge win total. If you win 6 games you lose 10. That fucking sucks. Everybody must really think the Raiders suck if they're saying they'd be shocked with a 6 win season.

How on earth is Russell going to start by week 6 if he isn't even in camp now? He'll be holding a clipboard all year long.

I'm just saying it's easy to have nice overall defensive ranking when teams don't HAVE to pass on you.

when al davis finally gives the kid the ridiculous amount of money he wants, he is going to want to see some results immediately.

Also, I do like the Gannon comparison with culpepper...both guys were sort of thrown aside by their previous teams and at one time in their careers had a lot of promise (heck Daunte was the best non-peyton manning qb in the league a couple years ago), but I don't think culpepper is bringing credibility. He lost it all in miami. But here's to hoing he can regain some of it this year.

This is about all the talk the Raiders will get all year. Unless Russell turns out to be an all pro stud this team is isn't sniffing the playoffs for atleast 5 years after Russel starts his first year.

There are too many better teams with top notch QB(Manning, Palmer, Brady) talent in that league for the Raiders to contend any time soon. Plus there are a bunch of young guns(Rivers, Cutler Young) with much promise that are a year + ahead of him.

Only time will tell on Russell but prediction the SB before evening seeing the kid hit the field is a bit much. I expect that from Browns fans after seeing Quinn the last 2 games.

That wasn't the case with the Raiders though. It would be different if their pass D's YPA was in the 20's, allowed a lot more TDs then INTs and if their starting cornerbacks didn't combine for 12 INT (when they saw fewer balls then most corners).

Fazer, why would he sign Culpepper if he planned on playing Russell? The Raiders plan is to redshirt Russell for the year. If that isn't obvious then I don't know what is.

Are you fucking retarded? Since when is a QB the entire existence of a team? I guess you never heard the statement "defense wins championships". When Carson Palmer leads his team to back to back winning seasons, come talk to me.

And when the Bears win a Super Bowl with Sexual Rexual behind center, come talk to me.

Yeah, because I really give a shit about the Chicago Bears. Even so, what a total surprise it would be for a team that was only down by less then one score, going into the 4th quarter in last years Super Bowl to win it all this upcoming season. Rex can only improve.

not to belabor the point, but can teams (outside of the chargers two years ago, who got real lucky with Brees resurgence and the Bengals with Carson, who also got lucky thanks to Kitna's resurgence) redshirt 1st round rookie qb's anymore? There is far too much pressure from fans, media, and more importantly finances to play these kids. No matter what these coaches are saying. Jeff Fisher went about last year as if Vince young was going to redshirt, and look what happened, his hand was eventually forced to play him.

I am sure Brady Quinn will be starting by mid season, and that guy barely had any camp time.

And signing Daunte was a move as much for the Russell negotiations as much as it was for the team this season. Raiders have nothing to lose by taking a flier on Daunte.

Some mildly amusing Star Wars/NFL webjunk here. I'm particularly in agreeance with the comparison of the Cleveland squad to jawas as both are "small, brown and constantly trading for junk."

That was brilliant.

There's a few things you're going to need to know. Brady Quinn was a 4 year starter in college and played his last 2 seasons in a pro-style offense. He was labeled the most NFL ready QB in the draft. He will have played 3 preseason games and practiced with his team for about a month leading up to the season. Of course though, that isn't any time. He will at some point be starting for the Browns this season (especially after his solid play).

JaMarcus Russell is known as the more raw talent and the Raiders, on draft day, traded for McCown which signaled Russell wouldn't be the opening day starter (unless he played incredibly well during the preseason which hasn't happened). JaMarcus Russell, still hasn't signed a contract and the last preseason game is on Thursday. The Raiders signed Culpepper because they obviously deemed him healthy. Why the fuck would they sign a player for a minimum of $3.2 mil, on a one year deal, if they didn't plan on playing him? His signing has nothing to do with the Russell negotiations either. If anything, it has actually shown how they're in no hurry to sign him to the contract they don't want to sign. They have two guys that are capable of playing this season. JaMarcus Russell will only take a snap this season if Culpepper gets hurt and the Raiders trade McCown. You're logic doesn't make any sense at all and I'm sorry to break it to you but Culpepper wasn't some scrub player in the past. He's made more Pro Bowls then Drew Brees and John Kitna combined. As long as his knee holds up, at worse, he should be a middle of the road starting QB, which would be good enough to allow Russell to sit out the season (which has always been the Raiders plan). Russell would be 4th on the teams depth chart if he signed today. He hasn't practiced and played in any live games, yet you're comparing him to Vince Young, who was signed on time, played in 4 preseason games, and had Kerry Collins (who was signed about a week before the season started) ahead of him on the depth chart; and Brady Quinn.

well we will see how the season plays out then.

and just to clarify, I did acknowledge the success daunte had in the past, but I stated that he lost any credit I might have given him for those years with his performance in Miami. The dolphins also threw a lot of money at him too because he was "deemed healthy"

You also need to remember that in the last 7 games Daunte Culpepper played sans Randy Moss pre-Miami, he was throwing a 54.4% completion rate and had 12 INTs to only 6 touchdowns.

It was perceived at that time that he never actually learned to read a defense very well and just had the benefit of the long ball and knew how to run it.

Let's see what he can do in Oakland and reserve judgment.

Holy crap.

The Jaguars just commando-dropped Byron Leftwich, saying he'll be traded or released before Saturday's deadline, and handed the team over to David Garrard. I think this is the first time this has ever happened this late in the preseason from a team..

If Garrard can just cut down on the mental mistakes, he'll be an effective NFL quarterback. For Del Rio's sake, he'd better. But some of the decisions he made in the three-game collapse last season were mind boggling.

Hear that Falcons? If healthy take him.

Minnesota, Atlanta, Washington, Kansas City, and dare I say Tampa should all take a nice long look at Leftwich. He'd be an immediate upgrade in all of those cities.

The JAC front office really screwed Leftwich on this one. They couldn't resolve this in the spring so the kid could land somewhere and have a fair chance at playing time (argument stolen from PFT)? What shitheads.

Culpepper is so far beyond what he was in Miami. It'd take a mule not to see it.

Culpepper has always been inconsistent on a yearly basis. You have to remember that in Culpepper's career year, Moss caught less then 50 passes (although 13 were TD's), missed 3 games, and hardly played in about 5 others (when he did it was at about 50%).

There's already rumors about Andrew Walter heading to the Jags. It makes perfect sense, seeing how Dirk Koetter in their OC.

Leftwich cut and not traded.

PFT rumoring that Moss is already on thin ice in New England, saying he's a luxury they can afford to do without. Let's hope Favre keeps his mouth shut this time.

The genius of Ted Thompson - they may be able to get Moss for NOTHING.

Man, I love our GM.

And if Moss can't behave himself in NE with a strong possibilty of a Super Bowl what will he do in GB and only the possibility of the playoffs?

I hope they cut Moss.

The Bucs signed Jeremiah Trotter to a one-year deal. He'll certainly help our run defense but how he handles the coverage responsibilities of Kiffin's defense remains to be seen.

Ted Thompson got railed for not trading a draft pick for Moss - and giving him guaranteed money. You definitely should invest in a sarcasto-meter.

Besides, it looks like that Moss rumor was just that.

Yeah, Caldwell is out leaving New England with the normal amount of 5 WRs.

Did anyone else think Chad Jackson was going to be the go to guy for Brady? He hasn't made a flippin' peep since draft day 18 months ago. Nagging injuries and such. What a shame.

well unless kiffin is pulling a bellichick, mccown will be starting for the 2007 oakland raiders this sunday.