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The Heroine Falls Running from the Killer; Is THIS a Hack Bit?

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I was thinking of new thread ideas whilst trimming my hedges yesterday (to look at them, I think Jason could've done a better job w/ his machete than I did w/ my electric trimmers. let's just say they probably won't need any trimming for awhile).

I posted a thread way back when about how much I hate horror movie cliches, and the one where the heroine falls down while running from the monster/killer has GOT to be the one I hate the most.

But then I got to thinkin': the film that inspired that rant/thread was "Penny Dreadful", one of After Dark's 8 films to die for at last year's Horrorfest. By way of background, Penny is a teenage girl w/ a phobia of cars. She witnessed both her parents die - horribly - in front of her as a child in a car accident. So her therapist takes her on a road trip as a sort of confront-your-fears type of aversion therapy. Along the way, they clip a hitchhiker, & of course the therapist offers him a ride to make up for it. And of course, he's the psycho killer the radio's been talking about having just escaped the local mental hospital. So he chases Penny from the car, and she trips and falls. I was kind of pissed when I first saw this, because I liked the film, and thought their resorting to this hack bit cheapened it just a bit.

But now, I think this may have been the only example of this bit that actually advanced the plot of the film; it may be the only one that ISN'T a hack bit.

Why? Because Penny knocks herself unconscious, and when she comes to, the killer has dragged her back inside the car, which he's wedged into a stand of trees in such a way that the doors can't be opened & it's stuck in mud & can't drive. He then proceeds to torture Penny, who's out of her mind being trapped in a car to begin with. I know there's other ways he could have gotten her in there, and they could've avoided the whole cliche in the first place, but uif they had to go that route, at least THIS ONE TIME, it led to something.

I can't think of any more. Can anyone else? And do you agree w/ my thesis at all, or have I lost it, and this is ALWAYS a shitty, hacky bit that we'd like to see innumerable filmmakers drug out into the street and shot for indulging in?
post #2 of 15
In BEHIND THE MASK (and I think this is in the extras), Leslie is showing off the "killer run/walk" and races Taylor - who trips at the very end and is embarrassed - "I can't believe that I fell."

I thought it was kind of a funny bit.
post #3 of 15
that was a great bit in Behind the Mask, good call Chavez.
post #4 of 15
Just once I'd like to see the killer be the one to trip for absolutely no reason.
post #5 of 15
I'd like to see the trip lead to the prey's escape. For example she rolls down a hill into a river and ends up miles away while the killer is left to sheepishly look after her.
post #6 of 15
In all fairness, if someone is running away, while panicking, glancing over their shoulder at who's chasing them, and often wearing impractical shoes, in the woods, at night, they're probably going to trip.
post #7 of 15
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Chris Wood
I'd like to see the trip lead to the prey's escape. For example she rolls down a hill into a river and ends up miles away while the killer is left to sheepishly look after her.
I can't think of an example off the top of my head, but I'm sure this must have happened (well, minus the sheepish look) at some time in horror film history. The fall leading to salvation is a device I know I've seen before, but maybe it's more of an action/adventure film staple.
post #8 of 15
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Originally Posted by Showvillain
Just once I'd like to see the killer be the one to trip for absolutely no reason.
The first Scream played with that quite nicely, having the killer be possibly the clumsiest person on the planet.
post #9 of 15
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Originally Posted by IggyBorg
I can't think of any more. Can anyone else?
Think of which one- a hack bit, or an instance where a hack bit actually pays off?

One of the most obnoxious, overdone routines in horror is this one:
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Heroine: The body is right here, in the Janitor's closet! Just open the door and see for yourself!

Police Douche: Ok, ma'am, let's get this all straightened out... [OPENS DOOR, REVEALING MOP AND BUCKET]

Heroine: But... I swear! There was a dead body in here twenty minutes ago! You have to believe me!

Police Douche: Ok, little missy. Now let's just get a grip here. What you need is some nice rest and some sleepy-time tea, and maybe a good dose of the style network. 'Who's Wedding Is It Anyway' is a sure cure for the blues, or the crazies, or whatever your problem is. I'll drive you home.
I'm not sure where this phenomenon started, but it was only used effectively in North By Northwest.
post #10 of 15
Thread Starter 
I had in mind specifically an instance where the heroine/victim falls & it pays off. The disappearing body is one that somehow (& shame on us) eluded us when we did a thread/rant on hack bits in general. Good call.
post #11 of 15
As an addition to the tripping... Didn't Scream (and maybe the remake for When a Stranger Calls... ugh) show the heroine jogging during their intro or another scene? Thus setting up that they had some endurance and would not be easy to catch. I may be wrong, but I've seen that used before. The strong female protagonist is often depicted as a loner (but usually in pretty good shape) nowadays with plenty of time for aerobic workout and even self-defense classes.

Personally, I prefer the clothes-lined character (via a branch or antagonist around the corner) instead of the "here comes that monster, oops I tripped on this tree-root" cliche. But, it's always welcome classic cheese when viewing an old 50's B-flick. The monster uses that time to catch up, regardless of mobility, state of dead-ness, or bulkiness of rubber suit. Course, Leslie Vernon's been practicing.
post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8
As an addition to the tripping... Didn't Scream (and maybe the remake for When a Stranger Calls... ugh) show the heroine jogging during their intro or another scene? Thus setting up that they had some endurance and would not be easy to catch. I may be wrong, but I've seen that used before. The strong female protagonist is often depicted as a loner (but usually in pretty good shape) nowadays with plenty of time for aerobic workout and even self-defense classes.
Nike had a commercial with former track All-American Suzy Favor-Hamilton as the woman in the bathroom when the killer appears in the mirror. She takes off running and he goes after her - and the camera shows her just booking off into the distance as the killer starts stumbling and gasping for air. The last two shots are the killer sitting there bending over with his hands on his knees, gasping as F-H is just FLYING down the beach.

Here ya go - fucking fantastic.
post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8
Personally, I prefer the clothes-lined character (via a branch or antagonist around the corner) instead of the "here comes that monster, oops I tripped on this tree-root" cliche. But, it's always welcome classic cheese when viewing an old 50's B-flick. The monster uses that time to catch up, regardless of mobility, state of dead-ness, or bulkiness of rubber suit. Course, Leslie Vernon's been practicing.
Got to love 50s horror.
post #14 of 15
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Originally Posted by Xagarath Ankor
In all fairness, if someone is running away, while panicking, glancing over their shoulder at who's chasing them, and often wearing impractical shoes, in the woods, at night, they're probably going to trip.

I think that's kind of the point that Behind the Mask was making - add to all that the disconcerting fact that you can't get away from someone who appears to be walking, not running.
post #15 of 15
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Originally Posted by Chavez
Here ya go - fucking fantastic.
Truly! Thanks!
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