CHUD.com Community › Forums › POLITICS & RELIGION › Political Discourse › I dub thee "Terrorist"
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

I dub thee "Terrorist"

post #1 of 48
8/15/07 at 11:34am
Thread Starter 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...401662_pf.html

"The United States has decided to designate Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps, the country's 125,000-strong elite military branch, as a "specially designated global terrorist,"

How very convenient.
Reply
post #2 of 48
8/15/07 at 11:35am
And by posting this, it also makes YOU a terrorist.
Reply
post #3 of 48
8/15/07 at 11:42am
Thread Starter 
Hey, by directing that post at me, you've been affiliated with a known terrorist.
See you in a Syrian basement, soon.
Reply
post #4 of 48
8/15/07 at 11:44am
Anyone who posts in this thread is a terrorist.

Wait.

Shit.

Except for me. Except for me!!
Reply
post #5 of 48
8/15/07 at 11:46am
We shall call you "Terrorist Zero."
Reply
post #6 of 48
8/15/07 at 11:50am
You, though, they may not put a bag over when they stack you with the other detainees and take the pics.

The rest of us will be hosed, though.
Reply
post #7 of 48
8/15/07 at 12:00pm
That's it. I'm creating my own Hezbollah-like splinter faction. You guys are way too soft anyway.
Reply
post #8 of 48
8/15/07 at 12:07pm
special watch lists have been created specifically for this thread, and any threads located to the north, south, east and west of it.
Reply
post #9 of 48
8/15/07 at 12:21pm
Do you guys have any matches? I just ran out of 'em this week.
Reply
post #10 of 48
8/15/07 at 12:22pm
Nope. Only C4 and gasoline.
Reply
post #11 of 48
8/15/07 at 12:25pm
What is the point of this, anyway?

Do we need an excuse to kill Iranian military caught on the wrong side of the Iraqi border?
Reply
post #12 of 48
8/15/07 at 12:27pm
Just an excuse to invade Iran. They're harboring a lot of terrorists now.
Reply
post #13 of 48
8/15/07 at 12:31pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Savage
Just an excuse to invade Iran. They're harboring a lot of terrorists now.
<whine> But I don't want to invade Iran. Let their internal struggles tear the country apart rather than make us the bad guys that unite the country. <whine>
Reply
post #14 of 48
8/15/07 at 12:38pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Savage
Just an excuse to invade Iran. They're harboring a lot of terrorists now.
Since when did we need actual excuses to invade anyone?
Reply
post #15 of 48
8/15/07 at 12:39pm
Average American Idiot #1: "What the fuck? We're bombing Iran? Why the hell are we doing that? Aren't we already in some other wars over there or something?"

Average American Idiot #2: "Didn't you hear? Bush said Iran was harboring a uniformed army of over 100,000 terrorists! Right out in the open and everything! Plus, I think they were just about to nuke Israel!"

Average American Idiot #1: "Oh, they're terrorists? Well, fuck 'em, then. Remember 9/11? That shit was fucked up, man."
Reply
post #16 of 48
8/15/07 at 12:44pm
Et voila.
Reply
post #17 of 48
8/15/07 at 12:45pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacob Singer
Average American Idiot #1: "What the fuck? We're bombing Iran? Why the hell are we doing that? Aren't we already in some other wars over there or something?"

Average American Idiot #2: "Didn't you hear? Bush said Iran was harboring a uniformed army of over 100,000 terrorists! Right out in the open and everything! Plus, I think they were just about to nuke Israel!"

Average American Idiot #1: "Oh, they're terrorists? Well, fuck 'em, then. Remember 9/11? That shit was fucked up, man."
::sobs uncontrollably::
Reply
post #18 of 48
8/15/07 at 12:47pm
Why this designation? From the article:

Quote:
The Bush administration has chosen to move against the Revolutionary Guard Corps because of what U.S. officials have described as its growing involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan as well as its support for extremists throughout the Middle East, the sources said. The decision follows congressional pressure on the administration to toughen its stance against Tehran, as well as U.S. frustration with the ineffectiveness of U.N. resolutions against Iran's nuclear program, officials said.

...

The main goal of the new designation is to clamp down on the Revolutionary Guard's vast business network, as well as on foreign companies conducting business linked to the military unit and its personnel. The administration plans to list many of the Revolutionary Guard's financial operations.

"Anyone doing business with these people will have to reevaluate their actions immediately," said a U.S. official familiar with the plan who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the decision has not been announced. "It increases the risks of people who have until now ignored the growing list of sanctions against the Iranians. It makes clear to everyone who the IRGC and their related businesses really are. It removes the excuses for doing business with these people."
After Iraq, there is no way, no how the American people or government sit idly by and watch us invade Iran for anything less than a direct military attack by Iran on US citizens.
Reply
post #19 of 48
8/15/07 at 1:04pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonvoight's car
After Iraq, there is no way, no how the American people or government sit idly by and watch us invade Iran for anything less than a direct military attack by Iran on US citizens.
Like the Republican Guard's direct aid and assistance to Iraqi insurgents with training and material for IADs killing Allied soldiers?

I much prefer diplomatic and financial pressure on Iran rather than sword rattling. That being said, whatever works that contains the Iranians until the inevitable collapse of the Mullahs is fine with me.
Reply
post #20 of 48
8/15/07 at 1:20pm
This likely has nothing to do with invasion, but rather is probably a fairly good political manuever by putting economic pressure on them. If we determine them to be terrorists, they get cut off from the American financial institutions. Additionally, countries that do business with them are also cut off. Pretty much nobody wants that to happen as it means economic doom.

That would be my guess for the reason here. If the UN doesn't come out with stronger resolutions against Iran, this is a method for the US to further leverage the pressure against them on their own.
Reply
post #21 of 48
8/15/07 at 1:34pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Vivisector
<whine> But I don't want to invade Iran. Let their internal struggles tear the country apart rather than make us the bad guys that unite the country. <whine>
Anybody starting to wonder whether or not the Bush Administration is being stupid and incompetent on purpose?
Reply
post #22 of 48
8/15/07 at 1:36pm
Just so everyone is aware, this isn't a one way street of saber rattling:


http://www2.irna.ir/en/news/view/men...2013173859.htm


Quote:
Iran-Afghanistan-Ahmadinejad
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said here Tuesday that rule of Islam on mankind is the only way for salvation of human beings.

"There is no truth on earth but monotheism and following tenets of Islam and there is no way for salvation of mankind but rule of Islam over mankind," said Ahmadinejad in a meeting with Afghan Sunni and Shiite ulama at Iranian Embassy in Kabul.

President Ahmadinejad said nations are today distancing themselves from culture of materialism and selfishness and look for a new way for their prosperity, that is the path of Islam.

He said that the world is on verge of a great upheaval and ulama at this juncture shoulder a heavy responsibility that is introducing genuine Islam as it is.

"Nations today have no haven but religion," the Iranian president announced, cautioning Muslim nations against enemies' divisive plots.

He said, "All of us have the duty to resist the enemy by closing our ranks."
He said that the Iranian nation today feels more than ever the need to stand beside the Afghan nation.

"The Islamic Republic of Iran has kindly received their Afghan brothers and will continue to do so in future. Minor issues will cannot affect Iran's policies on Afghanistan," he added.

The president said Islam belongs to all generations and Muslims should get ready for global mission of Islam.
Reply
post #23 of 48
8/15/07 at 1:36pm
I tend to be of the opinion that this maneuver is to setup a possible attack on Iran under the guise of the administration simply going after the "terruh-rists!" This administration has shown repeatedly that they don't give a fuck what anyone else thinks and stupidly believe that their actions will be vindicated at some point in the future.
Reply
post #24 of 48
8/15/07 at 1:37pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Death Surge
Just so everyone is aware, this isn't a one way street of saber rattling
Sounds the same as when Bush talks about Christianity.
Reply
post #25 of 48
8/15/07 at 1:40pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Death Surge
Just so everyone is aware, this isn't a one way street of saber rattling:
Ahmadinejad is just as obnoxious a blowhard as Bush and his people are almost as tired of him as we are of ours. Don't take his words as any more representative of the national mindset than Bush's.
Reply
post #26 of 48
8/15/07 at 2:05pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonvoight's car
After Iraq, there is no way, no how the American people or government sit idly by and watch us invade Iran for anything less than a direct military attack by Iran on US citizens.
"You'll never go broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people". Or the government, for that matter.

I think we can be forgiven for being just a teensy bit wary of any sabre rattling by the Bush administration.
Reply
post #27 of 48
8/15/07 at 2:07pm
What blows my mind is how self-righteous blowhards like Bush and Ahmadinejad get their positions of power in the first place when it's clear they do not represent the will of their peoples. You'd think people would be wise enough to recognize a traitor to their national ideals when they saw it...

Is the general population that blind?
Reply
post #28 of 48
8/15/07 at 2:11pm
Yup. And they also like Rush Hour.
Reply
post #29 of 48
8/15/07 at 2:14pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cervaise
Ahmadinejad is just as obnoxious a blowhard as Bush and his people are almost as tired of him as we are of ours. Don't take his words as any more representative of the national mindset than Bush's.
And the sadder fact is that the Iranian administration before Ahmadinejad's was actually moderate and was trying to work with the US. Too bad the our administration treated them like shit and the Iranian people voted in someone more hard-line.
Reply
post #30 of 48
8/15/07 at 2:15pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Shake
Is the general population that blind?
Yes. Simple questions, simple answers.
Reply
post #31 of 48
8/15/07 at 2:20pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacob Singer
"You'll never go broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people". Or the government, for that matter.

I think we can be forgiven for being just a teensy bit wary of any sabre rattling by the Bush administration.
Hey, I don't begrudge anyone the right to be wary. This administration deserves heightened scrutiny, particularly when it comes to our Middle Eastern policy. But the majority party in Congress and increasing numbers in Bush's own party are calling for an orderly withdrawal from Iraq. The mainstream media that bought and regurgitated the company line on Iraq and WMDs in '02 and '03 has already been burned. I could be wrong, but after all that's happened, it would take another 9/11 (or something similar) directly tied to Iran to create the conditions where Congress, the MSM, and the public would allow an invasion or attack on Iran to happen under this president
Reply
post #32 of 48
8/15/07 at 2:54pm
Fear the October surprise.

ps. If the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps are terrorists, what does that make the Italian Mob?
Reply
post #33 of 48
8/15/07 at 3:30pm
Quote:
If the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps are terrorists, what does that make the Italian Mob?
Nice boys that love their mothers.
Reply
post #34 of 48
8/15/07 at 3:38pm
Got a problem with that?
Reply
post #35 of 48
8/15/07 at 5:24pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by yt
ps. If the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps are terrorists, what does that make the Italian Mob?
Who are you to be askin' 'bout the Mob? Huh? You some kind of mook lookin' to be tough. Those boys are legit business owners, dat's all you need to know.
Reply
post #36 of 48
8/15/07 at 6:04pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Shake
You'd think people would be wise enough to recognize a traitor to their national ideals when they saw it...

Is the general population that blind?
You remember the 2004 Presidential election, right?
Reply
post #37 of 48
8/16/07 at 5:08am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Death Surge
Just so everyone is aware, this isn't a one way street of saber rattling:

http://www2.irna.ir/en/news/view/men...2013173859.htm
The difference being, America actually has a saber.
Reply
post #38 of 48
8/16/07 at 8:02am
Quote:
Originally Posted by donde
And the sadder fact is that the Iranian administration before Ahmadinejad's was actually moderate and was trying to work with the US. Too bad the our administration treated them like shit and the Iranian people voted in someone more hard-line.
This is factually inaccurate. The Guardian Council, feeling that the moderate faction was a threat to its power, declared the moderates ineligible to run for election and shut down many moderate newspapers. Ahmedinijad's victory has nothing to do with American diplomacy and everything to do with internal Iranian politics.
Reply
post #39 of 48
8/16/07 at 9:35am
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Prankster
The difference being, America actually has a saber.
Iran being in charge of 11% of the world's oil begs to differ.
Reply
post #40 of 48
8/16/07 at 1:25pm
Thread Starter 
That's not exactly a saber, more like a treasure chest.
With rubies and emeralds n' shit...
Reply
post #41 of 48
8/16/07 at 1:33pm
Halting production and distribution would cause exponentially increasing oil prices which would in turn wreak havoc in just about every industrialized nation. Sorry, but I would call the ability to collapse trillions of dollars out of the world's economies a fairly big double edged longsword.
Reply
post #42 of 48
8/16/07 at 1:49pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by FrankCobretti
This is factually inaccurate. The Guardian Council, feeling that the moderate faction was a threat to its power, declared the moderates ineligible to run for election and shut down many moderate newspapers. Ahmedinijad's victory has nothing to do with American diplomacy and everything to do with internal Iranian politics.
From what I remember, the Iranian administration I was referring to was the one that was in power around the time of 9/11 and was working through back channels to come to some sort of diplomatic agreement with the US. I remember reading about how the US administration slapped away all the offers and it was this insult that was used by the Guardian Council to start pushing out the moderate faction which they accused as being responsible as well for allowing Iran to be put into that position (I believe that makes sense).
Reply
post #43 of 48
8/16/07 at 2:04pm
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Death Surge
Halting production and distribution would cause exponentially increasing oil prices which would in turn wreak havoc in just about every industrialized nation. Sorry, but I would call the ability to collapse trillions of dollars out of the world's economies a fairly big double edged longsword.
So it's more like the USA are threatening to beat up their drugdealer, then.
Reply
post #44 of 48
8/16/07 at 2:31pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by donde
From what I remember, the Iranian administration I was referring to was the one that was in power around the time of 9/11 and was working through back channels to come to some sort of diplomatic agreement with the US. I remember reading about how the US administration slapped away all the offers and it was this insult that was used by the Guardian Council to start pushing out the moderate faction which they accused as being responsible as well for allowing Iran to be put into that position (I believe that makes sense).
Khatami and his party were pushed out in '04 and '05 elections when the Guardian Council banned most of his party's candidates from running, then forced the '05 presidential election that brought Ahmadinejad to power. That was due to an internal split. Khatami wanted to limit the power of the Guardian Council to hinder free elections and interfere with legislation. His party's ouster had a lot to do with internal politics and proposed democratic reforms and little to do with Iran's relationship to the US.
Reply
post #45 of 48
8/16/07 at 4:23pm
jonv, how do you expect us to get up a full head of knee-jerk liberal steam if you keep coming into these threads and using, you know, FACTS 'n shit?
Reply
post #46 of 48
8/16/07 at 6:51pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacob Singer
jonv, how do you expect us to get up a full head of knee-jerk liberal steam if you keep coming into these threads and using, you know, FACTS 'n shit?
Sorry. I'll back away with these words: Bush! Rove! Cheney! Gonzales! Waterboarding! Haliburton!!!
Reply
post #47 of 48
8/17/07 at 12:20pm
Fuckin Haliburton. I KNEW they were behind this shit.
Reply
post #48 of 48
8/17/07 at 8:00pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Shake
What blows my mind is how self-righteous blowhards like Bush and Ahmadinejad get their positions of power in the first place when it's clear they do not represent the will of their peoples. You'd think people would be wise enough to recognize a traitor to their national ideals when they saw it...

Is the general population that blind?

just remember what the song said the new boss is the same as the old boss.
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Political Discourse
CHUD.com Community › Forums › POLITICS & RELIGION › Political Discourse › I dub thee "Terrorist"