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post #1 of 18
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So who else is pleased as punch this finally made it to DVD and ran out and bought this and passed on Taxi Driver?

Wow is all I can say at the moment. I last saw it from a worn pan and scan VHS from my library sometime in 97 on a 24 inch TV and it blew me away. Now crystal clear and with surround sound and 60 inch HDTV and after 5 years of college which included a Shakespeare class, and Theater Design, it had me in complete awe. The cameos which threw me when I was younger really work now, and that Heston speech is now my favourite scene of his career. The score threw me cause I forgot Patrick Doyle did it, and until the one bit that sounded as if pulled from Goblet of Fire did I place the composer.

I am still trying to figure out how they got a 70mm camera to move so freely, and not appear in any mirrors. And why Branagh has been so harshly punished for one misstep when he gave us this. (Sleuth might change that) And Brian Blessed is going to haunt me now as well.

More thoughts after I wade threw the features.
post #2 of 18
I saw this on opening weekend upon it's release and it's my absolute favorite Shakespeare film adaptation, and I've seen most. I can't wait to buy this, but I had to blow this week's money on Kissology Vol. II (the non-makeup years. Not kidding).
post #3 of 18
Hey, good on you to defend Branagh. Not sure why everyone decided to hate this guy so long. With Henry V, Much Ado, and this movie, plus a bunch of other pretty good appearances, the guy has more than made up for Frankenstein (which isn't THAT bad) and Celebrity (which kinda is).

Hamlet is a pretty great. Branagh is great in it. And it's fun to watch the varying degrees of effectiveness in the celeb cameos. Charlton Heston and Billy Crystal are excellent, while Jack Lemmon is hilariously bad. So strange. Almost want to pick this up. I'm thinking the HBO movie he's got coming next week will push me over the edge. Kevin Kline's in it.
post #4 of 18
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Originally Posted by Sharpel007
And why Branagh has been so harshly punished for one misstep when he gave us this. (Sleuth might change that) And Brian Blessed is going to haunt me now as well.
What's the misstep he is punished for? Wild Wild West was hardly his fault!
Big fan of this film. Saw it in the cinema for drama class. Was the moment I realized Shakespeare wasn't stuffy old crap after all. This would have to be my second favourite of the Bards work adapted to the screen after Polanski's Macbeth.
Can't wait to see this again utilizing the full Home Theater Experience.
post #5 of 18
I've never gotten around to seeing this Hamlet (though I plan to remedy that now), but I just wanted to step in and defend Frankenstein. I personally think it's the best adaptation of the novel we've ever had. I must further point out, however, that I consider that faint praise. I like it, though.
post #6 of 18
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I thought his dead on and scene stealing performance as Professor Lockhart in Chamber of Secrets was going to get him some cred back.

I believe it was the reaction Loves Labours Lost that knocked him down.

Lemmon works, not great not bad, just weird hearing Shakespeare coming out of his mouth is why I think on first viewing he seems out of place, but the rest of the cast being so diverse helps here as well.

Winslet plays just a little too emotional, but considering Branagh is firing on all cylinders, and Kate's experience at the time I cant fault her that much.

And Sleuth is right behind American Gangster in my most anticipated so we shall see.
post #7 of 18
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Originally Posted by Sharpel007
Lemmon works, not great not bad, just weird hearing Shakespeare coming out of his mouth is why I think on first viewing he seems out of place
I have an acting degree, and believe me, Lemmon has absolutely no idea what he's doing with the verse. It's word salad. He could be reading the auto repair listings from a Latvian phone book for as much sense as he makes of the language.

Other than that, yeah, this is a pretty good movie.
post #8 of 18
I really like Branagh's version. I like the time period he sets it in, and while the celebrity casting pushes it a bit far at times (Robin Williams, Jack Lemmon), some of the other experiments worked quite well (Charlton Heston for one). Plus, Branagh is fantastic and the film looks magnificent. I wanted this on DVD years ago, to the point that I sort of eventually gave up on it. I'm glad its out, but as I've scaled back by DVD purchases, I'm having a hard time justifying a buy of a movie I'm unlikely to watch very often at all. I appreciate that he filmed the entire play, but...y'know....it's really long.
post #9 of 18
His nomination for Best Adapted Screenplay is one of the bigger head-scratchers in Oscar history, by the way.
post #10 of 18
Lemmon just about kills this movie, but once you get past him this is a pretty great Hamlet.

By the way, when watching this and thinking of its style, a lot of the time I was reminded of Doctor Zhivago (a movie I have seen way too many times thanks to my mother).
post #11 of 18
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Originally Posted by Greg David
I've never gotten around to seeing this Hamlet (though I plan to remedy that now), but I just wanted to step in and defend Frankenstein. I personally think it's the best adaptation of the novel we've ever had. I must further point out, however, that I consider that faint praise. I like it, though.
Agreed. Granted, I haven't seen it in about a decade, but I loved Branagh's Frankenstein when I was younger. I certainly think it's better than the original film, which, in my opinion, doesn't hold up particularly well.

I haven't seen his version of Hamlet, but I'm a sucker for most Shakespeare flicks. I should probably check it out.
post #12 of 18

Finally got around to seeing this the other day, and this might eclipse Julie Taymor's Titus as my favorite Shakespeare film. Laundry list!:

 

-The film is just gorgeous to look at, with rich colors and immaculate costumes. I also love the way Branagh reimagines famous scenes like "To be, or not to be...", Claudius' confession, and the play-within-a-play, or adds crucial intercuts like Claudius and Gertrude drunk on their wedding night, Hamlet and Ophelia's passionate (though brief and tasteful) sex, and the actual murder of King Hamlet.

 

-Branagh is on fire here, even in the quieter scenes, and he clearly relishes getting to play Hamlet's more sarcastic scenes or the famed "My thoughts be bloody, or else be nothing worth!" soliloquy. He's also unafraid to portray Hamlet as a bit of a douche at times, particularly during the nunnery speech or his self-satisfaction at witnessing Claudius' guilty face. The rest of the main cast is great too. Derek Jacobi (who I am always happy to see) makes Claudius both a great villain in his manipulation of others, and a surprisingly sympathetic soul as he tries to run a kingdom while his nephew's acting like a mood-swinging lunatic. Julie Christie makes for a marvelously ambiguous Gertrude; she's clearly in love with Claudius, so did she have anything to do with the king's murder? Christie never quite answers that, and I love her for it. Kate Winslet is so very sad as the doomed Ophelia, Michael Maloney is a passionate Laertes, Richard Briers is a terrifically manipulative Polonius, and Nicholas Farrell does some underrated work as Hamlet's only true friend Horatio.

 

-The celebrity cameos do vary in effectiveness, but most of them work. Brian Blessed proves to be intense and commanding even when whispering as the Ghost, Rufus Sewell is appropriately intense as Fortinbras, Billy Crystal and Charlton Heston are surprising highlights, it's always fun to see Gerard Depardieu, and even Robin Williams works as Osric. The lone exception is Jack Lemmon, who I love dearly, but just seems utterly lost with this language.

 

In short, I loved it.

post #13 of 18

Relative to it's running time, Lemmon's role is thankfully small.  As others have said, it comes to down to just not being his milieu.  On the other hand I loved the idea of Heston as the Player King; the role was built for a performer like him.

 

The only qualm, and it's a small one, is that Zeffirelli beat Branagh to Helena Bonham Carter, the best Ophelia we'll likely see for some time.

post #14 of 18
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Relative to it's running time, Lemmon's role is thankfully small.  As others have said, it comes to down to just not being his milieu.  On the other hand I loved the idea of Heston as the Player King; the role was built for a performer like him.

 

The only qualm, and it's a small one, is that Zeffirelli beat Branagh to Helena Bonham Carter, the best Ophelia we'll likely see for some time.


Oh, yeah, it's a small complaint. And I'll definitely have to check out the Zeffirelli version at some point, if only because I loved his Romeo and Juliet (which eats Luhrmann's spastic mess alive any day of the week).

 

post #15 of 18

The sheer look and passion of the film are kind of amazing. It’s one of those films that looks and sounds so beautiful on DVD that I kind of ache to imagine what it looks like cinematically or at least on Blu-Ray. Branagh is effortlessly magnetic in this, giving power and emotion to scenes which should be rendered stoic by their cultural cache. He also delights in the wordplay of the character, really getting to the dichotomy of a character who is in mourning, but who is also devilish and quick-witted. He’s a brilliant wastrel gifted with purpose by his desire for revenge and it’s a great interpretation of a character who can often be defined by his melancholy. The supporting cast are great and whilst I think some of the stunt-casting is a little off (Robin Williams and Lemmon are both a little hard to get to grips with, Williams because he’s all persona and Lemmon because he really, really, mangles the language) but I think the odd bits of casting help to define all of the ancillary characters in a sprawling cast. Of the main cast I think the main weakness might be Winslet. Now Kate Winslet is a favourite actress of mine, but she plays Ophelia a little too academically. There’s supposed to be a wildness to the character which never quite comes through and she comes across as kind of am-dram in her madness.

 

I love how the film represents Norway as this ravenous force on the outskirts, an exterior danger to the internal machinations. In particular the quick cuts between the storming of the castle and Hamlet’s duel are a great way of framing the internal struggle. I think Branagh sees Hamlet’s desire for vengeance as at least partially self serving and overly destructive and he even frames Claudius in a rather sympathetic light. As such by allowing Norway control of Denmark, as in the original play, Branagh shows how destructive that revenge is on a national level.

 

The film is gorgeous, just everything from its costume design to the beautiful use of Blenheim Palace really creates this sense of resplendence. The costuming and wintery-scenery are a real feast for the eyes and they’re beautifully matched by Patrick Doyle’s gorgeous score. I love how there’s a singular motif in the entire score, with different variants on it in different sequences.

 

And Luhrman's ROMEO + JULIET is fantastic. Shakespeare works are seldom presented with such verve and passion. It's why it, McKellen's RICHARD III and Taymor's TITUS are some of my favourite Shakespeare adaptations.

post #16 of 18
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Originally Posted by Spike Marshall View Post

The sheer look and passion of the film are kind of amazing. It’s one of those films that looks and sounds so beautiful on DVD that I kind of ache to imagine what it looks like cinematically or at least on Blu-Ray. Branagh is effortlessly magnetic in this, giving power and emotion to scenes which should be rendered stoic by their cultural cache. He also delights in the wordplay of the character, really getting to the dichotomy of a character who is in mourning, but who is also devilish and quick-witted. He’s a brilliant wastrel gifted with purpose by his desire for revenge and it’s a great interpretation of a character who can often be defined by his melancholy. The supporting cast are great and whilst I think some of the stunt-casting is a little off (Robin Williams and Lemmon are both a little hard to get to grips with, Williams because he’s all persona and Lemmon because he really, really, mangles the language) but I think the odd bits of casting help to define all of the ancillary characters in a sprawling cast. Of the main cast I think the main weakness might be Winslet. Now Kate Winslet is a favourite actress of mine, but she plays Ophelia a little too academically. There’s supposed to be a wildness to the character which never quite comes through and she comes across as kind of am-dram in her madness.

 

I love how the film represents Norway as this ravenous force on the outskirts, an exterior danger to the internal machinations. In particular the quick cuts between the storming of the castle and Hamlet’s duel are a great way of framing the internal struggle. I think Branagh sees Hamlet’s desire for vengeance as at least partially self serving and overly destructive and he even frames Claudius in a rather sympathetic light. As such by allowing Norway control of Denmark, as in the original play, Branagh shows how destructive that revenge is on a national level.

 

The film is gorgeous, just everything from its costume design to the beautiful use of Blenheim Palace really creates this sense of resplendence. The costuming and wintery-scenery are a real feast for the eyes and they’re beautifully matched by Patrick Doyle’s gorgeous score. I love how there’s a singular motif in the entire score, with different variants on it in different sequences.

 

And Luhrman's ROMEO + JULIET is fantastic. Shakespeare works are seldom presented with such verve and passion. It's why it, McKellen's RICHARD III and Taymor's TITUS are some of my favourite Shakespeare adaptations.


I have no problem with verve and passion in terms of Shakespeare. I too love Julie Taymor's Titus (haven't seen McKellen Richard III). What I have a problem with is headache-inducing direction, pathetically transparent attempts to make the story "hip" (let's slather on a cool soundtrack to bring in the kids!), and actors who are clearly trying but are let down by the director or miscasting *points at poor Leo*. Ergo, I can't stand Luhrmann's R+J.

 

Otherwise, I agree with everything you say here, although I thought Winslet had a nicely creepy, wild vibe to her madness.

post #17 of 18

Go here to discuss Romeo + Juliet.

 

http://www.chud.com/community/forum/thread/131785/romeo-juliet-1996

 

It's not for everyone, but I think considering the tone of the play itself Lurhman's lurid sensibilities work. And the music IS cool.

post #18 of 18

Yeah, I think I've said all I need to say on it. It's just not my thing. Sorry.

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