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Alberto Gonzales Resigns

post #1 of 27
8/27/07 at 9:56am
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That's just great news to start the day.
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post #2 of 27
8/27/07 at 10:00am
Have they set a record for the number of high profile resignations during a single administration yet?
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post #3 of 27
8/27/07 at 10:01am
I've always thought of Gonzales as Lefou to Bush's Gaston: someone completely inept who makes Bush look smarter and tougher by comparison.






I hear he's to be replaced by Michael "Grim Fandango" Chertoff.
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post #4 of 27
8/27/07 at 10:02am
Don't get happy. Chertoff is taking his place.
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post #5 of 27
8/27/07 at 10:09am
Still lame that you couldnt kick him out. Or Rove. Or anyone at all...?
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post #6 of 27
8/27/07 at 10:12am
This is about six months too late to make any kind of difference.
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post #7 of 27
8/27/07 at 10:19am
Monday AM is certainly strange timing. Surely a late Friday resignation would have benefited from the Holiday weekend news cycle.
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post #8 of 27
8/27/07 at 10:32am
Great he's resigning yet at the same time, I hope this doesn't mean that the Dems will stop investigating the attorney firing scandal. I know that the media will now say "Oh well, AG Gonzales and Rove are both gone so there's no more need to focus on these 'investigations'. Those Dems are just playing politics."
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post #9 of 27
8/27/07 at 10:34am
I picture the Bush administration as a big 8 year party for assholes. Now as things wind down, the guests are leaving one by one, happily clutching their party favors on their way out the door.
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post #10 of 27
8/27/07 at 11:14am
More to come?

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After Rove's resignation senior administration officials said White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten had told senior aides that if they intended to stay after Labor Day, plan to remain for the rest of Bush's term through January 2009.
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post #11 of 27
8/27/07 at 11:15am
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Originally Posted by BobClark
I picture the Bush administration as a big 8 year party for assholes. Now as things wind down, the guests are leaving one by one, happily clutching their party favors on their way out the door.
Exactly. It's hard to get excited about any of these resignations; the damage was done a long time ago and the weak leadership in the Democratic Congress certainly isn't going to go out of their way to fix it.
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post #12 of 27
8/27/07 at 11:38am
Yup, late enough to have done real damage, early enough for the media and the public to have forgotten all about them in 2009.
Probably the only sane thing the fucker has ever done.
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post #13 of 27
8/27/07 at 11:51am
Yeah, a real mixed emotions moment. I'm glad the weasel is gone but why can't anybody in the administration get nailed? And now, two of the three likeliest assholes have skipped out of the room, hoping their resignation will quell the fire of any serious investigation?

Meanwhile, a majority democratic senate can't get off their ass to do anything about it...AND they extend Bush's rights to listen in on phone calls and e-mail? What the fuck!?

I'm so sick of this country.
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post #14 of 27
8/27/07 at 12:16pm
When I heard this, I did an Orson Wells' style "YESSSSS!" in my car. But I also did the same "YESSSS!" when I saw there was a bilboard for Torchwood near my place.

In any case, it's about goddamn time.
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post #15 of 27
8/27/07 at 12:28pm
Any ideas for a replacement? These are big incompetent shoes to fill for both guys before,...whoever steps in.
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post #16 of 27
8/27/07 at 12:37pm
Rumor at the moment says Chertoff could be it. But I'd rather take a wait and see approach. Not to mention I'm not exactly good at handicapping cabinate appointees.
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post #17 of 27
8/27/07 at 12:44pm
Rumor says it's Chertoff, but here's the thing: they don't have to replace him with anyone.

Gonzalez's immediate replacement will be Paul Clement, who's a complete Bush Admin nutcase. He can stay in that position for 210 days, and if the nominee fails to be confirmed, a new 210 days period starts again. Check it out: I found this off Greenwald's site:

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The acting attorney general with be Solicitor General Paul Clement. He "can stay in that position for quite a while," a senior administration official said.

That would avoid a bruising confirmation fight. Some Democratic senators have vowed not to confirm a Gonzales successor. . . .

An administration official explained: An individual may serve in an acting capacity for 210 days. However, if there is a pending nominee, the 210 day "clock" starts again when a nominee is announced. The 210 day "clock" would restart again if the nominee is voted down. The clock stops when there's a nominee, and restarts with a new 210 days if the nomination is withdrawn or fails.
That's from the Politico, used by Greenwald. Check it out here...

Anyway, so here's the deal: the Admin now has another stooge at the helm of the DOJ and can stay in there for the rest of the administration. There's no need to get an acceptable candidate to Congress for confirmation since their boy is in there now. I hate this administration and it's lawlessness, but man, what political gamemanship.
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post #18 of 27
8/27/07 at 12:52pm
I'm reading on sites that Bush is going to put one to Senate confirmation. Is there any chance Chertoff gets confirmed by this senate?! I'd think not?
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post #19 of 27
8/27/07 at 12:55pm
Other speculation points to John Danforth, like I said. It's really difficult to try and figure out these things until something actually goes on the table.

Still, I find it hilarious that dems actually wanted Bush to put Gonzales on the court a couple years back because of his "moderate" views. Thank christ that never came to task.
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post #20 of 27
8/27/07 at 12:58pm
What's got me worried is the guy on tap to replace Chertoff if he gets the AG spot:
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Clay Johnson, deputy director for management at the Office of Management and Budget, would replace Chertoff, the senior administration officials said.

Johnson, a longtime friend of Bush, served as the president's chief of staff and appointments secretary when Bush was governor of Texas. He was executive director of the Bush-Cheney transition team.
And this qualifies him to run the Department of Homeland Security how exactly?
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post #21 of 27
8/27/07 at 1:01pm
Man, nothing says you're able to run a massive security/law enforcement department like the fact you can crunch numbers for budgets that defecit spend. Nice work there, feds.
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post #22 of 27
8/27/07 at 1:18pm
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Originally Posted by Devildoubt
Rumor says it's Chertoff, but here's the thing: they don't have to replace him with anyone.

Gonzalez's immediate replacement will be Paul Clement, who's a complete Bush Admin nutcase. He can stay in that position for 210 days, and if the nominee fails to be confirmed, a new 210 days period starts again. Check it out: I found this off Greenwald's site:


That's from the Politico, used by Greenwald. Check it out here...

Anyway, so here's the deal: the Admin now has another stooge at the helm of the DOJ and can stay in there for the rest of the administration. There's no need to get an acceptable candidate to Congress for confirmation since their boy is in there now. I hate this administration and it's lawlessness, but man, what political gamemanship.
FYI, while Clement is undoubtedly conservative, he incredibly respected by both conservatives and liberals alike. Hell, Russ Feingold gave him a glowing endorsement at his committee confirmation hearing for his current job. From what I've read this morning, he's no nutcase.
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post #23 of 27
8/27/07 at 1:35pm
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Originally Posted by jonvoight's car
FYI, while Clement is undoubtedly conservative, he incredibly respected by both conservatives and liberals alike. Hell, Russ Feingold gave him a glowing endorsement at his committee confirmation hearing for his current job. From what I've read this morning, he's no nutcase.
If Bush wants him for the job, then he's a stooge. That has to be the operating principal at this stage of the game with these a-holes.
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post #24 of 27
8/27/07 at 3:06pm
"And this qualifies him to run the Department of Homeland Security how exactly?"


He's Bush's friend.

That sounds like sarcasm, but sadly, it isn't. Just par for the course.
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post #25 of 27
8/27/07 at 3:09pm
Patrick Fitzgerald would be a dream AG, but hell will freeze over before that happens. There is no way that this administration will appoint an AG for whom the law trumps loyalty. But I do hope congress goes after Gonzo, if only to send a message that lying, lawbreaking Attorneys General face consequences like everybody else.
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post #26 of 27
8/27/07 at 3:33pm
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Originally Posted by MrMushnik
Exactly. It's hard to get excited about any of these resignations; the damage was done a long time ago and the weak leadership in the Democratic Congress certainly isn't going to go out of their way to fix it.
They embarrassed him out of a job whereas the 109th did nothing. You're right that they didn't go out of their way, though. What Congress did was its job, something the previous bunch utterly failed to do.
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post #27 of 27
8/27/07 at 3:43pm
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Originally Posted by yt
Patrick Fitzgerald would be a dream AG, but hell will freeze over before that happens. There is no way that this administration will appoint an AG for whom the law trumps loyalty. But I do hope congress goes after Gonzo, if only to send a message that lying, lawbreaking Attorneys General face consequences like everybody else.
They won't. They won't go after anyone who's resigned because it will be spun as petty and personally, I hope they don't simply because they have far more important issues at hand. While it would be nice to prosecute these douchebags, there's just not enough time.
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