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post #51 of 64
Just think about it for a minute stump, if you still don't get it I can send you more info for 3 easy payments of 49.99. I would also like to interest you in a game of three card monty.
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post #53 of 64
That was hard to watch. I love how Stein insists that it's a free speech issue.

It's true that we can't accurately explain where life originated, but "Maybe it was MAGIC!" will never be an acceptable answer.
post #54 of 64
Every time I hear this bullshit, I just ache.

We know precious little about what causes gravity. Is it carried by an elementary particle? Is it some weird feature of spacetime? We simply don't know, and we can't yet test out our current hypotheses.

Since we don't know for sure, I think that "Science books" ought to print what we're all thinking: Gravity is caused by God's love.
post #55 of 64
I know most Chewers probably frequent the AV Club, but this was particularly choice if you missed it:


Creation is The New Punk
post #56 of 64
For even more laughs, check out Stein's column on Yahoo! Finance. He told his readers there is no recession as late as last month. He also told everyone to load up on stocks last August, and that Real Estate is just going to keep going up up up!
post #57 of 64
And of course the word 'elite' is being tossed around, for those mysterious latte sippers who believe they understand the universe.

All we need is somebody like Ben Stein to rebel against that, uh, minority of people!
post #58 of 64
I'm pretty much completely against the teaching of Intelligent Design in public school, but I don't think the question behind it is an invalid one. Where did life begin? This is a question for science to answer and in time I think it will.

The idea of an act of creation isn't completely against everything we know in science: see THE BIG BANG. Proof positive that the universe in fact did have a definite beginning. Knowing that should open the door to many other questions.

But as far as evolution is concerned, it is a proven phenomenon, as science has seen it taking place in nature on the micro scale. The largest point of contention with creationists is that there is very little proof of species turning into something entirely different. And with that in mind I point out whales. Fossil evidence shows beyond any doubt that they evolved from a land mammal.

Eat that, Ben Stein.
post #59 of 64
The whole thing about I.D. is that it's a fucking philosophy, absolutely not science. You don't teach Nietzsche in AP Biology. Ben Stein is a crook and a thief.
post #60 of 64
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So this movie was #8 on Friday. Is that a modest success for a documentary or a failure because it opened in a 1,000 theaters?
post #61 of 64
Ive said it before and I'll say it again. ID has no place in a science classroom for a very simple reason. Science is about the "how" of something - it's not its function to hypothesise the "why" of it.

ID is nothing but "why" - it's philosophy not science.

It's like studying The Great Gatsby in biology - it's fucking retarded
post #62 of 64
I'm looking forward to Stein's next movie... Map Quest: How Liberals are Keeping the Flat Earth Theory Out of Public Schools.
post #63 of 64
I gave up on anything intelligent coming out of Stein the minute he wrote a column in The American Spectator defending the Bush administration's handling of Hurricane Katrina.

The column is preserved for posterity here. I invite any interested parties to read it. It was written after Bush appointee Michael Brown's lack of qualifications as FEMA manager had come to light, but you'll find no acknowledgement of that in the Stein piece. You will find, however, a villification of Bush's critics as the sort of people who believe in witchcraft.

The defensive tone of the article and it's attempt to frame an argument as if inconvenient facts don't exist probably serves as a decent preview of what "Expelled" is like.
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