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A friend of mine sent me an e-mail regarding this and I'm surprised (yet not) that this hasn't been garnering more attention:

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Of 'White Trees', Black Boys and Jena, Louisiana by Mumia Abu-Jamal

If you asked me two weeks ago if I've ever heard the name of a little town in Louisiana called 'Jena', I would've drawn a blank. Jena? Never heard of it. It made me think of the ill-fated Palestinian village called Jenin, that Israel crushed into oblivion several years ago.

I think the incumbent president's daughter has that name (with an additional 'n'). But, that's it. When a friend sent me several internet articles about recent events there, I was, quite frankly, flabbergasted.

I was astonished to learn that today, in the first decade of the 21st century, in Jena High School, there is still a 'white tree', called that not because the leaves are white, but because it is a generous giver of shade, and only white students sit under it.

In Sept. 2006, a young student named Kenneth Purvis asked the school principal for permission to sit under the 'white tree.' The principal answered that he could sit where he liked.

So, they did.

The next day, the 'white tree' was festooned with three nooses, in school colors. In the South (or the North, for that matter), nooses have one clear meaning -- they are threats of death. People naturally got riled up, angry, or scared. Jena's High School principal looked into the matter, found the three white students responsible, and recommended that they be expelled.

The school superintendent felt otherwise, rescinded the expulsion, and instead recommended a 3 - day suspension. Speaking to the Chicago Tribune, the superintendent said, " Adolescents play pranks. I don't think it was a threat against anybody." (Perhaps he meant anybody important - or white)

For Jena's Black community, this was but the latest slap in the face. Black students at the high school decided to resist by holding a sit-in under the 'white tree' to protest the light suspensions given to the 3 white noose-hangers.

When word got out about the pending sit-in, the local DA came to a Jena school assembly, with several cops to threaten the students who dared to think they could do what people did some 40 years ago throughout the South (before the so-called 'New South'). He told them if they didn't stop making a fuss about this 'prank' he could be "your worst enemy." To make the point plain, he told the teen gathering, " I can take away your lives with a stroke of a pen."

Several days later, a white Jena student, who reportedly made racist taunts, including calling Black students 'niggers', got knocked down, punched and kicked. The boy was taken to the hospital, treated and released. That very night, he was well enough to attend a public event.

Within days six Black Jena students were arrested and charged with attempted second degree murder. All six were also immediately expelled. The 6 teens were given bails set from $70,000 to $139,000. Bail at these ranges could've just as easily been set at $1 million, for they were at rates that none of the local parents could afford. That meant, of course, that all of the accused were held in jail for months, awaiting trial.

And if money for bail was out of reach, what about money for attorneys? Again -- out of the question. That meant that public defenders were appointed by the court. For one of the accused, Mychal Bell, this meant little better than no counsel at all, for his trial was soon decided by an all-white jury, who promptly convicted him of aggravated second degree assault, battery and conspiracy.

Bell now awaits sentencing which may put the teenager in prison for the next 22 years. The public defender never challenged the all-white jury pool, put on no evidence, and didn't call a single defense witness. The law of aggravated assault requires the use of a deadly weapon. What was the weapon? Tennis shoes.

Families and friends of the Jena 6 are organizing against this case, and are also being threatened by the local establishment. One woman told Louisiana ACLU member, Tory Pegram, "We have to convince more people to come rally with us.....What's the worse that could happen? They fire us from our jobs? We have the worst jobs in the town anyway. They burn a cross on our lawns or burn down my house? All of that has happened to us before. We have to keep speaking out to make sure it doesn't happen to us again, or our children will never be safe."
I did a Google search and found some informative websites:

Friends of justice and Democracy Now have a comprehensive look at the case, the trial and the verdict. Color of Change has a petition Governor Blanco.
post #2 of 189
Christ almighty. If I hadn't read a date on there i could've sworn this was from 1962.

Petition to the South: Join the rest of us in the 21st Century.
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Originally Posted by Greg Clark
Christ almighty. If I hadn't read a date on there i could've sworn this was from 1962.

Petition to the South: Join the rest of us in the 21st Century.
It shames me to see that this still happens anywhere, but living in the south it just sickens me. Backwoods or not these people are scum. Join the 21st Century indeed.
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The boy was taken to the hospital, treated and released. That very night, he was well enough to attend a public event.
No doubt a black tie/white hooded affair.

That whole situation is very fucked up, although from the article it seems that the principal at least had some common sense/decency.
post #5 of 189
Reading bullshit like that makes me want to harass DA's and scream at Juries. It's only the rational part of my brain that kicks in at the last second and reminds me that I wouldn't be helping if I did that.

I signed the petition, for what it's worth.
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Originally Posted by Greg Clark
Christ almighty. If I hadn't read a date on there i could've sworn this was from 1962.

Petition to the South: Join the rest of us in the 21st Century.
Fuck that, we don't want these backwards inbred types here in our century.
post #7 of 189
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CNN has a brief video on this, but not surprisingly I haven't found any other major news outlets reporting on this.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/....6.update.affl
post #8 of 189
I read about this in Newsweek a while back and there was a quote where James Byrd called these guys a bunch of pussies.
post #9 of 189
NPR has done a few lengthy reports about this story. Here's a link to what's available in their archives on the subject.
post #10 of 189
Thread Starter 
Thanks!
post #11 of 189
My fraternity is actually been speaking a lot about this internally. It's disgusting this still goes on in the states and just goes to show that the belief that a majority of people have that this kind of racism is put behind us is bullshit.
post #12 of 189
Diva, you're spot on in calling out the mainstream media on coverage of this. I hadn't read or seen anything about it until Englebert from the forums PM'd me a link to the wiki article.

The dichotomy of the silence surrounding white students hanging nooses on trees versus the din of media uproar when Imus says "nappy headed hos" is pretty staggering. Racism and bigotry are alive and well in America and the mainstream media stays as far away from the subject as it can. The Jena 6 story really illustrates the corporate media's total disconnection with reality. But there are lots of other examples of contemporary racism-fueled horrors in this country that get no media play, i.e:

*The ongoing disenfranchisement and vote negation of black voters by GOP operatives
*The total suspension of basic human rights in New Orleans in the wake of Hurricane Katrina
*The disproportionate number of death penalty judgments on African Americans
post #13 of 189
Fuck.

I don't know what else to add.
post #14 of 189
If I, being an outsider, can feel angry I hate to think how much these things must suck for you guys. It's 2007 and they're still using nooses to try and scare black people?

What can I say? Keep your heads up and don't give an inch to the fuckers.
post #15 of 189
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Originally Posted by yt
But there are lots of other examples of contemporary racism-fueled horrors in this country that get no media play, i.e:

*The ongoing disenfranchisement and vote negation of black voters by GOP operatives
*The total suspension of basic human rights in New Orleans in the wake of Hurricane Katrina
*The disproportionate number of death penalty judgments on African Americans
That's true, but at least for me, I do hear about those issues in NYC. The racism that still persists in the South, however, rarely gets covered. I remember hearing about Genarlow Wilson's case, but that's only because ESPN covered the story (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/etick...y?page=wilson).

I understand that racism is a powerful subject to try and tackle, but the country's policy of sweeping these incidents under the rug does more harm than good. We can't move forward as a nation until we can legitimately and honestly discuss these issues out in the open. And sensationalizing cases (e.g., Imus) is not the way to go.
post #16 of 189
I think what bothers me most about things like the Imus story is that it only serves to fuel the fatigue and disinterest that most of America seems to have about racial issues. Instead of trying to actually tackle the important issues that would impact people's lives, they go for the easy story so they can still pat themselves on the back for their moral superiority.
post #17 of 189
Mychal Ball's case sounds like pretty clear attorney malpractice. He deserves (and should be able to get) a new trial based on incompetence of counsel. But we shouldn't gloss over the fact that this was a six-on-one beatdown where the kid was punched, kicked and stomped till he was unconscious. Serious charges should come out of that sort of crime, regardless of race. Even if there were some verbal provocation, what these six did was life-threatening and illegal and should be punished. But it doesn't sound like the crime fits the definition of aggravated assault if that definition requires the use of a deadly weapon. Also, the same standard should apply across the board. If kids are getting a slap on the wrist for similar behavior because they are white, that's ridiculous and it should obviously stop.

Of course, none of this gets at the underlying racial tension that drives situations like this. I don't know what the solution is. People are scared of the unfamiliar and seek comfort with those who look like them, think like them, and live like them. Skin color is just a lazy way to separate "your kind" from "their kind", shorthand for identifying those who have the same culture and beliefs. It's rooted in ignorance and narrow-mindedness, which is sadly passed on from one generation to the next. I guess you fight that with education and equal enforcement of the law. Of course, when those doing the teaching and enforcing share the same destructive beliefs, the system feeds itself.
post #18 of 189
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Originally Posted by englebert
I think what bothers me most about things like the Imus story is that it only serves to fuel the fatigue and disinterest that most of America seems to have about racial issues. Instead of trying to actually tackle the important issues that would impact people's lives, they go for the easy story so they can still pat themselves on the back for their moral superiority.
Exactly. It was totally superficial and covering it provided the illusion that the media covers racial bigotry in the country, which it willfully ignores. I'm not a fan by any stretch of the imagination, but the whole Imus uproar looked and smelled like theater to me.
post #19 of 189
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Originally Posted by jonvoight's car
Of course, none of this gets at the underlying racial tension that drives situations like this. I don't know what the solution is. People are scared of the unfamiliar and seek comfort with those who look like them, think like them, and live like them. Skin color is just a lazy way to separate "your kind" from "their kind", shorthand for identifying those who have the same culture and beliefs. It's rooted in ignorance and narrow-mindedness, which is sadly passed on from one generation to the next. I guess you fight that with education and equal enforcement of the law. Of course, when those doing the teaching and enforcing share the same destructive beliefs, the system feeds itself.
This is really the crux of it. I think bigotry will dissipate with ensuing generations, but what's happening right now is really scary because the establishment would have you believe it's not happening.
post #20 of 189
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Originally Posted by jonvoight's car
But we shouldn't gloss over the fact that this was a six-on-one beatdown where the kid was punched, kicked and stomped till he was unconscious.
It's not clear how he became unconscious. Some reports say he did so when he fell to the ground and hit his head on the concrete. I'm not sure that would make a difference sentencing-wise. But your overall argument is right on and I agree wholeheartedly.

In my studies, I've read a ton of research about "color blind" racism, in which people believe they are acting in non-racial ways but actually are. One study in particular found that kids who were taught color-blind ideologies held more explicit and implicit racial biases than those who were taught multiculturalism.

In my personal experience, I've found this to be true as well. We shouldn't be teaching kids that race doesn't exists. People quite obviously have different skin color. Instead we should be teaching them that difference does not mean something bad. I think back to when I was a kid and Seseme Street taught me "One of these things is not like the others, One of these things just doesn't belong". What kind of message is that?

In anycase, its clear that racism isn't a thing of the past and that we as a country need to address it sooner rather than later.
post #21 of 189
Just an update on the coverage. CNN.com has the story featured as the lead article on its front page.
post #22 of 189
Give this article a read:
http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/7170510

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OK, having said that, much of the mainstream reporting on this story has been misleading, irresponsible and inflammatory.

No one mentions that Mychal Bell's clueless public defender was black. No one mentions that there were no black jurors because of the 50 people who responded to the more than 100 summons, none were black. No one mentions that Bell was already on probation for battery relating to a Christmas day incident in 2005. No one mentions that Bell was adjudicated (convicted) of two other violent crimes in 2006 and one charge of criminal damage to property. No one mentions that Bell's father acknowledged he moved back to Louisiana in February (after seven years in Dallas) to supervise his son because of the "Jena Six" mess. No one mentions that Bell starred on the Jena High football team while constantly jeopardizing/violating his seemingly flimsy probation.
With the (understandable) outrage against what initially appears to be overtly institutionalized racism, why is it so easy for everyone to respond with the "southerner = klansman" attitude? Is that somehow less close-minded and bigotted? Are there certain groups of people, defined by an arbitrary characteristic, that are OK to malign?
post #23 of 189
I think the initial issue of the "white tree" and the nooses, coupled with the DA's lackadaisical attitude, makes the accusations of institutionalized racism pretty valid.
post #24 of 189
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Originally Posted by Diva
I think back to when I was a kid and Seseme Street taught me "One of these things is not like the others, One of these things just doesn't belong". What kind of message is that?
Seriously? I can't believe you can say that with a straight face. Obviously, the Henson family legacy of bigotry and persecution is legendary, with the exclusive, white-first message that pervades their movies and shows, but I think you're making a logical leap here that doesn't hold up to the most forgiving standards.

"Our children are learning basic pattern recognition! Burn the TVs!"
post #25 of 189
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It's telling that they chose to focus on difference instead of sameness. Also, belonging is based on context. If I have two circles and one triangle, they all belong to the category "shapes". I don't have a problem with the content of what they were teaching, just how they chose to teach it.
post #26 of 189
So, "Three of these things are just like each other, which 3 belong" would have been fine with you? In that case, we're implying to the children that the fourth should be left out, which is no larger a logical leap than you require.

Honestly, this is the goofiest point in the whole damn thread. It's far too serious a topic to be nitpicking children's shows.
post #27 of 189
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I don't think "belong" should be in the lesson at all.

And you were the one who chose to focus on a single comment I made out of dozens in this thread. So yeah, it's pretty stupid of you to be nitpicky about this.
post #28 of 189
Ok, I'll focus on another point.

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Originally Posted by Diva
It's not clear how he became unconscious. Some reports say he did so when he fell to the ground and hit his head on the concrete. I'm not sure that would make a difference sentencing-wise.
That's another bogglingly stupid non-statement. But, I picked the more absurd one. Sorry, I'll be sure to take the more asinine statement that contributes nothing to the thread next time.
post #29 of 189
Am I the only one here who knows that Mumia Abu Jamal (the author of the article about the Jenna 6) is convicted cop killer?

I am not saying that it invalidates any of his points, but he might be exaggerating some facts.

Not that the article doesn't have its merits. Jamal is a pretty smart guy, judging from his writing.
post #30 of 189
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Mumia is well known in NYC, and your point would be valid had I not linked several other sources that corroborate his story.
post #31 of 189
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Outsiders need to stay away

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"Outsiders need to stay away." That's what Billy Fowler of the school board in Jena, Louisiana, said about those who have raised concerns about the sentencing imposed on six African American boys -- ages 15-17 -- facing 100 years in prison.

Outsiders are always what people in the South have called those who challenge racism. But the story of Jena is not an outsider/insider story. It's a story about the worst tradition of what is known as Southern Justice. And like in the days of Jim Crow, it's a story where any shades of grey matter far less than black and white.

The issue by now has become well known: discussed on CNN and in the pages of USA Today. At Jena High School, a black student received permission from school authorities to sit underneath what was known as "the white tree" (remarkable that he felt he had to ask!) The next day, in retribution, three nooses hung from the branches, threats that they would soon be harvesting "strange fruit."

In protest black students collectively decided to sit under the tree. This a bold and beautiful act in the spirit of the best traditions of the '60s. They refused to comply with racist terror, even when those threats are as drastic as being lynched for simply not staying in your place.

And just like in the old South, the state made clear which side it was on. The town DA, Reid Walters, actually had the audacity to threaten only the black students, telling them that he had the power to ruin their lives with the stroke of his pen if they continued to make trouble.

Tensions escalated over the course of the semester. Two black students were beaten by a white student while another group of black students were threatened with a shotgun by a former classmate. Surprisingly, none of the white students or former students were punished in any way for these incidents.

But the following Monday when a white student was beaten up by six black classmates, they were immediately arrested and charged with attempted murder and conspiracy to commit murder, charges that would put them in jail for 100 years without parole. The Jena 6 ranges in age from 15-17. The white student spent three hours in a hospital emergency room and required no further medical care.

Mychall Bell was the first student tried. He was represented by a public defender that called no witness, and was quickly convicted by an all-white jury, white judge, and now faces up to 22 years in prison.

Recently, in response to a public outcry about the case, prosecutors have announced that charges against Shaw and Jones had been reduced to lesser felonies. But the need to be heard on this continues. Two other students, Robert Bailey Jr. and Bryant Purvis, still await trial for attempted murder. Bell's conviction has been allowed to stand even though the judge ruled he had been improperly convicted in an adult court when he should have been tried as a juvenile. Shaw and Jones still face years in prison.

As Billy Hunter, the head of the National Basketball Player's association, said:

"The situation in Jena, Louisiana is abominable and rotten to the core. The actions of the District Attorney demonstrate that "racism and bigotry are live and well in Jena ." As a former U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of California and Assistant Chief in the S.F. District Attorney's Office, it is my opinion that the District Attorney's has severely overcharged the case revealing his bias against the six black Jena youth. His actions should serve as a wake-up call for all Americans who believe in an impartial and fair criminal justice system."

This is a case that should outrage any individual regardless of the color of their skin. When the justice system can be a direct symbol of racism, injustice and terror, the very moral fiber of our society is threatened. This is not a time for neutrality. Insiders and so-called outsiders will be marching in Jena on September 20th. We will also be circulating a statement in the world of sports for those who choose to support the efforts to have the charges against the Jena 6 dismissed. The simple truth is that when it comes to issues of basic justice, there are no such thing as "outsiders."
post #32 of 189
Why isn't the FBI investigating the Jena school board? I really hope an Atticus Finch type gets in there and argues this case on appeal. It could potentially be a turning point for this hideous Jim Crow "justice" in the south.
post #33 of 189
Louisiana judge tosses conviction against teen tried as adult

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(CNN) -- A Louisiana appeals court Friday vacated the remaining conviction of a teenager accused in a violent, racially charged incident in Jena, Louisiana, his attorney said.

Bob Noel said the 3rd District Court of Appeals in Lake Charles threw out the conviction for second degree battery against Mychal Bell, saying the charges should have been brought in juvenile court.

The future of the case against Bell is up to the district attorney, who must decide whether to refile the charges in juvenile court, Noel said.
post #34 of 189
A positive outcome in the judicial system? Baffling.
post #35 of 189
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That's great news. I just hope it is not a short lived victory with the possibility of a retrial.
post #36 of 189
While charging these youths with attempted murder is absurd, and I sincerely hope the convictions are tossed, I do hope they are properly tried for assault, perhaps receiving community service as punishment. Punching and kicking somebody, especially when outnumbered six-to-one, is a grossly disproportionate response to hateful speech.
post #37 of 189
Thread Starter 
Agreed, but if you read the links I've posted above there is very poor, anecdotal evidence claiming Bell threw the punch that started the fight. The one and only eye-witness who saw the fight begin claims Bell did NOT throw the first punch, yet he is not being asked to testify. Bell is being tried for something he did not do.
post #38 of 189
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Originally Posted by nekkerbee
While charging these youths with attempted murder is absurd, and I sincerely hope the convictions are tossed, I do hope they are properly tried for assault, perhaps receiving community service as punishment. Punching and kicking somebody, especially when outnumbered six-to-one, is a grossly disproportionate response to hateful speech.
Is it really disproportionate to threatening someone with a noose? As far as I'm concerned calling someone a nigger with hatred is enough justification for a fight to break out among high school students. In the context of the racial tension and the powerlessness of the black students, I really don't see how a fight is that shocking. Do you really think that these students deserve to have criminal records before they even graduate from high school?
post #39 of 189
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Originally Posted by englebert
Is it really disproportionate to threatening someone with a noose? As far as I'm concerned calling someone a nigger with hatred is enough justification for a fight to break out among high school students. In the context of the racial tension and the powerlessness of the black students, I really don't see how a fight is that shocking. Do you really think that these students deserve to have criminal records before they even graduate from high school?
Unless you can show that the person who put up the nooses is the same guy who said "nigger", they're separate issues. I'm saying it's definitely wrong to use physical violence against someone who used a hateful word, regardless of the circumstances. I certainly sympathize with the young men to whom the slur was directed, and I find their anger perfectly understandable, but I also expect people to not give in to their anger and erupt into violent action. You don't beat someone because of an insult, no matter the history behind the insult. It's a disproportionate act.

That said, Diva says the facts of the case are unclear, and if the black student was not the physical aggressor then that changes things; you can use physical force to defend yourself from an aggressor, although an argument can be made that once the guy was on the ground, continuing to beat him was overkill.

Also, given the general racism of the area, one can also argue that, although (if the stated facts are correct) the black student's response was disproportionate, if the judge and juries are so biased that their punishment would be grossly disproportionate (jail time, etc.), then if it's a choice between giving them a disproportionate punishment and no punishment, we should opt for no punishment.

But I stand by my original statement - It's unacceptable to react to verbal abuse with physical violence.
post #40 of 189
I just think it is naive to think that teenage boys are not going to fight. Words can easily provoke violence especially in a situation like this where tension has built up. The white students obviously felt empowered by fact that the black students had no support from the administration and antagonized them. The unbalanced power dynamics alone could have caused the violence to occur because there was no other outlet for these students to respond. Ignoring that, I think there is a lack of understanding how powerful the n-word can be when used in the right context and the right intention. My father is middle-aged and an engineer and even he felt compelled to hit someone at work for calling him a nigger.
post #41 of 189
I can understand the urge to hurt someone physically for hurting you emotionally, but I think it's wrong to give in to that urge and there should be consequences for using violence. I sympathize with your position, but I still disagree.
post #42 of 189
Fair enough.
post #43 of 189
The whole noose thing is a threat, though. Does it justify the violence in the situation that occurred? Probably not, though the details aren't clear. But it's relevant that the students weren't just insulted, but had been threatened with a specific and vicious act.
post #44 of 189
Had the black youths assaulted the person(s) who hung the nooses, that would be a different situation, as the nooses do indicate a physical threat (although that still leaves the question of whether physical force should ever be used against anything other than an antecedent actual physical threat, rather than the suggestion of the threat.)

However, as far as we know, they used violence against someone who only used a racial slur, and I think it's wrong to physically hurt someone who verbally hurts you. If someone calls me an asshole I have no risk of dying from this verbal assault; if I hit that person, or even just push them, they could potentially be seriously injured or killed. It's a disproportionate response.
post #45 of 189
You're an idealist, nekkerbee. It's endearing and all, but "violence doesn't solve anything", while possibly being a nice idea, not only isn't realistic, but also isn't even true. When people are backed into a corner and threatened, and given no support from legitimate channels, violence is what's left.

And look where we are. The story is getting national attention. Hanging nooses from a tree didn't get that attention. A beating did. Does violence solve anything? Yes. Yes it does. Sad, but true.
post #46 of 189
I live a few hours west from Jena.

I think the proper solution to this situation would be to bomb the living fuck out of that shit hole. Except for the Dairy Queen. What a terrible, awful place it is.

But this sort of thing doesn't shock me in the least. It's a very poor town, a very ignorant town. It's very rural with an overwhelmingly white majority. The politics (from the Sherriff's department all the way up to the judges) are corrupt as all fuck.

A lot of people throw around accustations of the South being a rundown, racist hellhole. I've lived in the South my whole life and known so many well meaning, kind, and upstanding people that I hate when that broad stroke is used.

But sadly such pockets do exist, and if you want to see the real life version of what you're talking about, visit a place like Jena. Because it is a rundown, racist hellhole. It's just a terrible, awful little town in every way you can imagine.
post #47 of 189
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Originally Posted by Greg David
You're an idealist, nekkerbee. It's endearing and all, but "violence doesn't solve anything", while possibly being a nice idea, not only isn't realistic, but also isn't even true. When people are backed into a corner and threatened, and given no support from legitimate channels, violence is what's left.
I've never said, or believed, that violence never solves anything. It often does. But I still don't think it's a valid response to verbal abuse. If you called me an atheist asshole who should get cancer, would I be justified in knocking your teeth out? Maybe you think so, but I do not. It's too disproportionate. If I slap you, you shouldn't hit me in the head with an axe.

There are many circumstances in which violence is a proper response. This is not one of them.
post #48 of 189
And what was the proper response? Waiting for the authorities to wake up and do something? My point is that when you push people too far, and give them no other recourse, this is what you end up with. And I don't think it is entirely wrong in a case like this. Me calling you an atheist asshole who should get cancer isn't even nearly the same thing. We're talking about institutionalized racism, which creates a level of anger that no insult I could aim at you could possibly recreate. It's fine to have principles, but one has to recognize that there are times when principles don't amount to much.
post #49 of 189
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Originally Posted by nekkerbee
I've never said, or believed, that violence never solves anything. It often does. But I still don't think it's a valid response to verbal abuse. If you called me an atheist asshole who should get cancer, would I be justified in knocking your teeth out? Maybe you think so, but I do not. It's too disproportionate. If I slap you, you shouldn't hit me in the head with an axe.

There are many circumstances in which violence is a proper response. This is not one of them.
A place like Jena, La isn't going to respond to protests and petitions. They'd spit in your face and tell you get out of their fucking business before listening to you, and then when you didn't leave they'd kindly escort you out by way of pickup truck and shotgun.

It's an awful place. AWFUL. I'm not using hyperbole when I say that. It is the most vile, ignorant, poor little town you've ever seen. They take pride in their racism, and since it's 90% white, there's no one with enough power to standup and do anything about it. It's the Parish Seat of LaSalle, so that means all Parish politics are dominated and controlled from within Jena, so there's no one within the Parish who will step up.

So while I'm not going to advocate extreme violence, I will say traditional channels aren't going to work. The politics down here don't allow for it. If changes are going to be made it will have be because of something extreme.

Unforunately that won't happen.

I feel bad for the six of them. I really do. Their only crime was living in a racist shithole.
post #50 of 189
Only in Louisiana could the Governor be named `BLANCO´, and have people expect fair rights for all.
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