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post #1 of 119
Thread Starter 
I figure guitar player's been done at least once, but this one's a little more challenging: Who's your favorite BASS player, and why?

I'd have to say either Roger Waters of Pink Floyd or Steve Harris of Iron Maiden.

Roger Waters is a favorite for me probably more for his songwriting ability than raw talent as a bass player, but he did write some pretty cool bass lines. "Money" is one of the most recognizable bass lines in rock. "The Happiest Days of Our Lives/Another Brick in the Wall Part 2" is a cool, if somewhat simplistic, bassline as well. And he shows admirable restraint, given the extremely laid back tome of the songs, on "Comfortably Numb" and "Breathe". I'm a bass player myself, and it's hard for me to not throw in some fills and stuff when playing these, but if you do they just don't sound right.

Steve Harris I like for the energy in his basslines. I know the gallop gets old after awhile, but if your pulse doesn't quicken at least a little when you hear "The Trooper", they'd better pull the sheet up over you. When I took music theory & composition in college, all the stuff I wrote tended to sound like a (much less talented version of) Steve Harris; lot of sixteenth notes, a few gallops, some fast triplet arpeggios, a slow break building back up to the fast paced main line, stuff like that.

Being a bass player, there's plenty more I like, but I'm curious what anyone else has to say before I throw anything else out there. Any thoughts?
post #2 of 119
I have to be cliche and say Les Claypool. Love love love Primus.
post #3 of 119
You gotta love Claypool, but my pick would be Cliff Burton (R.I.P.).
post #4 of 119
Mark Sandman (also dead). Behold:

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Sandman was best known as the lead singer and slide bass player of the band Morphine. His instruments were extensively altered and sometimes built by hand to create unique sounds. In Morphine, he played primarily a fretless two-string slide bass guitar, but he also was known to play a unitar (named after the one-stringed instrument in American blues tradition), and three-string slide bass. He sometimes paired bass strings with one or two guitar strings, creating the "basitar" "tri-tar and "guitbass".

The result was a murky, slurring sound that, particularly when paired with the baritone saxophone of Morphine's Dana Colley, created what Sandman termed "Low Rock". His baritone singing completed the sound. "We're just baritone people," he once told an interviewer. "And the cumulative effect of all these instruments is that it sounds really low, but you can still hear what's going on between the different instruments. It hits the body in a peculiar way that some people like a lot."
post #5 of 119
Thread Starter 
I once got invited toa party by a guy I worked w/ who played drums in a bar band. There were a lot of musicians there, and we were all encouraged to bring our instruments. I was, for a while, the only bass player there, and had a lot of fun jamming with the rest of the guys to "Comfortably Numb" and "Born to be Wild". Then some guy showed up w/ a really, REALLY cool and expensive looking bass, and started RIPPING on Primus tunes. I felt thoroughly outclassed. Primus rocks. . . or do they suck?

That stuff on the guy from Morphine is most intriguing, Phil. I may have to check that out, just to see what it sounds like. And to those of you who think this may sound silly, keep in mind that no one was playing fretless electric basses until after Jaco Pastorious made one by knocking out the frets on his P-Bass and filling them in w/ epoxy, sanding them smooth to create a unique & now often utilized sound.
post #6 of 119
Morphine doesn't have a ton of albums - "Cure For Pain" is considered their best (and was used extensively in Spanking the Monkey), and "Yes" is pretty user-friendly. "Like Swimming" and "The Night" never grabbed me as much. Free samples:

http://www.myspace.com/morphinenight (Listen to "Super Sex" before anything)

http://www.myspace.com/morphinejazz

http://www.myspace.com/morphinelowrock (you can download these)

http://www.myspace.com/murderforthemoney
post #7 of 119
Gotta love Claypool. I think the man's got seven fingers on each hand.

Also check out the work of Stanley Clarke, Jaco Pastorius and a shitload of other non rock musicians.


First person to mention Mark Anthony gets stabbed in the eye.
post #8 of 119
Someone was telling me that the official Van Halen website recently posted all their album covers with Michael Anthony's likeness replaced with Eddie's son Wolfgang. A day later they were back to the original. Eddie's wacky.
post #9 of 119
No Geddy Lee?
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Of course Geddy Lee.
post #11 of 119
Tony Levin
Flea (of course)
Geezer Butler
Nick Oliveri
John Paul Jones
Phil Lynott
post #12 of 119
Bill Wyman of the Rolling Stones. Those quick bass riffs from "She's So Cold" and "Shattered" are some of my favorites. I wish he hadn't quit - I know Mick and Keith are the stars, and you won't get an argument out of my on that. But I've always been a "Bill and Charlie" girl myself.
post #13 of 119
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Originally Posted by LisaNewYork
Bill Wyman of the Rolling Stones. Those quick bass riffs from "She's So Cold" and "Shattered" are some of my favorites. I wish he hadn't quit - I know Mick and Keith are the stars, and you won't get an argument out of my on that. But I've always been a "Bill and Charlie" girl myself.
Underage?
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Tupac?
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Jeff Ament
post #16 of 119
I gotta go with Les Claypool as well.

A friend of mine has a concert DVD of Primus and that fucking guy does some crazy shit to that bass.
post #17 of 119
Tony Levin.
post #18 of 119
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Originally Posted by Michael Shaver
Tony Levin
Flea (of course)
Geezer Butler
Nick Oliveri
John Paul Jones
Phil Lynott
Has anyone heard any of Nick Oliveri's Mondo Generator stuff? I've been meaning to give them a listen.
post #19 of 119
I've always enjoyed Robert Sledge's playing with Ben Folds Five, he played it almost like a lead instrument but knew when to hold back.

John Entwistle should also get a mention, he was probably the first rock bass player to actually play his bass as if it were a lead instrument and not just provide the beat, his interlocking with Keith Moon is just amazing to listen to.
post #20 of 119
Don't know much about bass, but I guess Billy Sheehan is talented (or so they say).
post #21 of 119
I'm going with Nate Mendel, of the Foo Fighters and Sunny Day Real Estate. He knows when to go nuts with the runs and keep a good melody, and when to back off and just give the song a backbone of rhythm.


(If I was pompous dick, I'd actually say "myself". If I was a pompous dick.)
post #22 of 119
Mani of The Stone Roses and Primal Scream is a master.

Tina Weymouth of Talking Heads and Tom Tom Club is very underrated, but she forms a great rhythm section with her husband Chris Frantz.

Peter Hook-New Order/Joy Division (just check out New Order's "Everything's Gone Green")
post #23 of 119
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Originally Posted by Chris Wood
Don't know much about bass, but I guess Billy Sheehan is talented (or so they say).
It's probably not hip to like Billy Sheehan, because so many think all he is is some technically brilliant riffs, but that he's not really a BASS player. I beg to differ, in that he plays some damn good bass lines just holding down the bottom line. His workon Tony mcAlpine's 'Edge of Insanity" album is some of his best, I think. I was pissed beyond description that he'd left the David Lee Roth Band to form (ugh!) Mr. Big, and didn't apear on the "Skyscraper" tour, since I saw Dave on that one.

The love for Geddy Lee and John Entwhistle is also seconded. Geezer Butler is great, too ("Paranoid" gets my blood up same as "The Trooper"). I also love Graham Mabe, who played w/ Joe Jackson. Listen to the live version of "I'm the Man" and you'll se why.

And of course, as my sig implies, I love Lemmy from Motorhead, too. Like Waters, this may have more to do w/ his singing and songwriting (say what you will about his. . . unique . . . voice, but it fits Motorhead's music to a T). His use of chords and distortion make his bass sound at times almost like a low-tuned rhythm guitar. No one else does this, to my knowledge.

Also, T-Bone Wolk from the old Saturday Night Live Band always kept it in the pocket really well.

Surprised no one's mentioned McCartney yet. "Silly Love Songs" was once described in Bass Player Magazine as "an insipid song witha great bassline." I'm inclined to agree. Not being a Beatles fan, though, I don't know much about what he did w/ them. Can anyone suggest some Beatles songs that showcase his melodic style?
post #24 of 119
Mark King, back in the day.
post #25 of 119
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Originally Posted by Keith Fordyce
First person to mention Mark Anthony gets stabbed in the eye.
Did you mean Michael Anthony from Van Halen? If so, I think I'm with you for the most part, but you gotta give the man his due; the bassline to "Hang 'em High" on Diver Down rocks. His was the voice singing back up for Dave on all those tracks, as well, adding greatly to some of their tunes.
post #26 of 119
Another terrific bassplayer is Danyel Morgan from the Robert Randolph Family Band, just listen to his work on 'Live at the wetlands'

I'm surprised no-one's mentioned any funk bassplayers yet seeing as that instrument is a vital component for the music. Bootsy is one of the all time greatest, even if he is slightly strange, Michael Henderson is another terrific player, his work on Marvin Gaye's 'What's Going On' is great, such a great bassline on 'Inner City Blues'
post #27 of 119
John Myung (Dream Theater). Whether it's that ridiculous solo in "The Dance Of Eternity" or the un-released improv "Freeport Jam", the guy is just so fluid.

And then, of course, Geddy Lee.
post #28 of 119
You can't forget Derek Smalls.
post #29 of 119
When Spinal Tap appeared on SNL in the 80s (I think Michael McKean was hosting, Guest and Shearer were regulars), they performed "Big Bottom", and the entire band was playing bass.
post #30 of 119
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Originally Posted by Boomstick
Jeff Ament
Forget Michael Anthony, this deserves the eye stabbing.

Has anyone mentioned Billy Cox?
post #31 of 119
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Originally Posted by IggytheBorg
Did you mean Michael Anthony from Van Halen? If so, I think I'm with you for the most part, but you gotta give the man his due; the bassline to "Hang 'em High" on Diver Down rocks. His was the voice singing back up for Dave on all those tracks, as well, adding greatly to some of their tunes.
To wit, the bassline for Running with the Devil.
post #32 of 119
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Originally Posted by Phil!
When Spinal Tap appeared on SNL in the 80s (I think Michael McKean was hosting, Guest and Shearer were regulars), they performed "Big Bottom", and the entire band was playing bass.
In the movie, they all play bass as well.
post #33 of 119
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Originally Posted by Keith Fordyce
To wit, the bassline for Running with the Devil.
He provides some killer bassplaying on 'On Fire'
post #34 of 119
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Originally Posted by Phil!
When Spinal Tap appeared on SNL in the 80s (I think Michael McKean was hosting, Guest and Shearer were regulars), they performed "Big Bottom", and the entire band was playing bass.
You should watch the Live Earth version with every bass player in the known universe.
post #35 of 119
I haven't seen the film in years, but the show had David St. Hubbins introducing them "on lead bass", "on rhythm bass", etc.

Watching now. Yes!
post #36 of 119
Tim Commerford
Cliff Burton
Jason Newstead
Geezer Butler
post #37 of 119
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Originally Posted by IggytheBorg
Surprised no one's mentioned McCartney yet. "Silly Love Songs" was once described in Bass Player Magazine as "an insipid song witha great bassline." I'm inclined to agree. Not being a Beatles fan, though, I don't know much about what he did w/ them. Can anyone suggest some Beatles songs that showcase his melodic style?
I don't know if great bass lines rescue his weak solo efforts, but I thought that his instrumental work with the Beatles was pretty interesting. Check out the guitar solo on Harrison's "Taxman"--there's a bass player's idea of lead guitar.

I'll cast a vote for Robert Sledge too. Ben Folds himself doesn't do too much for me, but I think that Sledge added some beautifully melodic lines to their songs.
post #38 of 119
While not virtuosos, I really like John Paul Jones and Paul McCartney for their rhythmic placement and note choice. Very tasteful players.

Robert Sledge, as mentioned above, is fantastic.

Outside of pop/rock, one of the first I thought of was Nils Henning Osted Pedersen, who was truly amazing acoustic bassist. And of course, Charlie Mingus, who is my favorite bassist/composer ever.
post #39 of 119
Second the Tony Levin love. Seen Primus twice live and I have to say, it is not a cliche to mention Claypool when this topic comes up. The man is insane.
Also saw Joe Satriani live aeons ago and Stuart Hamm left an impression.
post #40 of 119
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Originally Posted by IggytheBorg
Surprised no one's mentioned McCartney yet. "Silly Love Songs" was once described in Bass Player Magazine as "an insipid song witha great bassline." I'm inclined to agree. Not being a Beatles fan, though, I don't know much about what he did w/ them. Can anyone suggest some Beatles songs that showcase his melodic style?
Not a beatles song but I always liked the bassplaying by McCartney on 'Let 'em In' it's not flashy but it's a really good steady beat which is pretty much his style.
post #41 of 119
John Gustafson-Roxy Music (described by the Allmusic guide as "the second most important bassist to come out of Liverpool"; just listen to Roxy's "Out of the Blue")

Jah Wobble-Public Image Ltd.

Bruce Foxton-The Jam/Stiff Little Fingers

Dave Allen-Gang of Four

Kim Deal-Pixies
post #42 of 119
The fact that it took 38 posts to hit on Mingus better fucking be because it's a holiday weekend.

Put down the Primus, people.
post #43 of 119
Gotta love McCartney. Just listen to "Baby You're a Rich Man", or even better, the pre-overdub version of "Good Morning, Good Morning" on Anthology 2. He's amazing.

Also amazing: Bernard Edwards = bass line on "Good Times" by Chic.

Jack Bruce is pretty goddamn fantastic on everything he did.

And, without any hyperbole, what is probably the best bass line ever: Wilton Felder on "I Want You Back" by the Jackson 5. I challenge anyone here to listen to that one and try to top it.

Cannot be done.
post #44 of 119
Bernard Edwards is a great bass player, I love his duel with Nile Rodgers on 'Le Freak'

I've gotta say, the bassline for 'dancing machine' is pretty damn good.
post #45 of 119
All my favorites have been mentioned already, so here 's my list:

Charlie Mingus - if you have to ask, I weep for you. Started getting into him back in college. All time favorite.

Geddy Lee - Geddy is just magnificent, an inspiration to an entire generation of bassists, and has one of the most unique voices ever. Rush is my all time favorite band, so I'm going to stop before I fanboy gush too much.

Lemmy - seconding the reasons Iggy mentioned, awesome.

Les Claypool - great stuff - not a huge Primus fan (some of their stuff is a bit hard to get into), but no denying his talent. Fast motherfucker, too.

Paul McCartney - Big fan of his Beatles and Wings work. Nice, old school, riffs.

Jah Wobble - fantastic basslines and riffs.

Geezer Butler - c'mon! Sabbath, Bloody, Sabbath people!

Cliff Burton and Jason Newstead - again, not one of my favorite bands, but great, great, stuff.
post #46 of 119
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Originally Posted by Phil!
Underage?
Nice! You got me on that one - hey, it was late, I was tired, I'd just gotten home from work, I never even saw that coming. But remember, he did have a wife and a common law wife before he moved onto the teenager. Ladies and gentlemen, on bass guitar, Humbert Humbert!
post #47 of 119
I bet nobody saw this coming, but I'm going to chime in with my appreciation for Sting, but only in his time with the Police. His bass was more a lead instrument than Summers' guitar on a lot of those songs, especially on songs like "The Bed's Too Big Without You" and "Spirits in the Material World."
post #48 of 119
Agree with many of the above, particularly Peter Hook and Jah Wobble, and I'll also throw in:

Mark King - Level 42 (hate the music, but he's a phenomenal bassist)
Rob Wasserman - ex-Ratdog, he plays a mean double bass solo
Phil Lesh - Grateful Dead, contrapuntal basslines
Mike Gordon - Phish, idem
Kenny Gradney - Little Feat
Dusty Hill - ZZ Top, just a wall of sound
Larry Graham - Sly & the Family Stone
John Entwhistle - The Who
post #49 of 119
I haven't posted much & not in a while either, but I feel I have to stick my oar in...
You guys are listing a lot of rock players. & that's cool & all as "favorite bass player" is a matter of taste... but honestly, I don't think rock demands bass players to be all that good technically (in neither mechanics or musicality). I am generalising, of course - there are exceptions (Claypool, Flea, Hamm, etc.), but a lot of those exceptions come with a funk/jazz pedigree.
This is hilariously (in my opinion) brought to sharp focus in that Metalica documentary (a tragic/comic real-life version of "This Is SpinalTap"), when the band audition for new bass players & the only guy who can play the songs without even breaking a sweat is Trujillo (who is a very funk-orientated player).
Rock bass players are fine at what they do, I just don't really think it's the genre to be looking for great players.
I'd say Mingus, Pastorious, Clarke, Marcus Miller, Victor Wooten, John Patitucci, James Jameson are the kind of guys that deserve more study & appreciation.
post #50 of 119
What, no Victor Wooton love, or are we only talking about rock guitarists? BTW I'm pretty psyched because I'm going to see Mr. Wooton today along with Mr.Fleck and the Flecktones.
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