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"Sprint, together with Nextel"

post #1 of 36
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Can both go to hell if you ask me.

(Bloggy and rantish but I need to vent)

I switched over to Sprint last year because my company has an 18% employee discount and figured it'd be a good deal. Well, the service has been plain lousy. Whether that's because of the phone or the company, it doesn't matter, I miss calls, text messages, you name it.

But that's not the fun part -- I have more minutes than we can use on our current plan, and there's a Sprint plan that's just perfect for what we need. Well, apparently, I'm a Nextel customer and it's not available to me. Forget that they're one and the same now, forget the whole "together" thing, can't have it, sorry. And the condescending prick on the phone immediately goes into the "I don't make the policy, I just inform the customers" routine that doesn't make matters any better. And of course, the plan I have is the lowest number of minutes a two-line account can have, so I'm stuck with it. And he wraps up the call by asking if there was anything else he could do. Nope, thanks, done enough.

Then I see that Sprint is raising its rates on text messages over the number you get each month by ten cents. Aha! A material change in my agreement! See ya, fuckers! Oh no. They've released a statement specifically stating that this does not count as a material change and that therefore no one can cancel their account over it without paying a fee.

So it's either wait it out another year or fork over $400 to cancel both lines of service. And if I had the cash, I'd be gone in a heartbeat.
post #2 of 36
No idea if this will actually work, but here's the Roaming Hack. Theoretically, following the instructions therein will prompt your provider to drop you, penalty-free.
post #3 of 36
My problem with this merger is that my NASCAR Nextel Cup flag is out of date. Christ. I have to spend $8 American to get another one now!
post #4 of 36
Yikes. I'm actually looking to buy my first cell phone* (believe it or not) in the near future, and now I have one less company to think about. Thanks, Dickson!

*28 years old, and I've lasted about as long as I possibly could without one. I hate the goddamn things, but I guess it's time to break down and get one.
post #5 of 36
Stay away from Sprint. I just canceled my contract after four years of random overcharging and labyrinthine customer service and getting free was like the McCarthy hearings. After Sprint I don't ever want to have a contract again and recommend buying unlocked phones and just recharging your sim card with minutes as you need them.
post #6 of 36
I've been with Sprint for about 5 years. I haven't had too much trouble with them. But I haven't really had any other phone company to compare it to. The coverage area is decent, but not great. Also, I am paying quite a bit for two phone lines and PCS Vision service. I may switch next year when my latest contract is up if I can find a better deal.
post #7 of 36
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I just don't get how a plan -- which is simply what they charge me -- can't be available. There's absolutely no reason for it. None.
post #8 of 36
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson
I just don't get how a plan -- which is simply what they charge me -- can't be available. There's absolutely no reason for it. None.
Yeah. What's funny is that I have been getting a lot of calls lately from Sprint asking if I have a lot of unused minutes left at the end of the month that would make me want to downgrade my plan. Of course, in order to do that, I would have to re-up for another 2-year contract. It seems as though you should be able to switch plans provided you agree to another one or two year contract. I guess it doesn't go between the two companies (which are supposed to be just one company). That's really stupid. "Sprint, sort of, kinda hangin' out with Nextel every now and then."
post #9 of 36
I had Sprint a long time ago, and while the service was fine, they charged me twice what I'm paying now for Verizon, and it was the identical plan.
post #10 of 36
I'm on Sprint's SERO plan, which is pretty sweet. Makes up for the hiccups -- plus mine aren't as bad as Poxy's.

That text message hike, though, seems like bullshit -- I don't see how they can just declare that this doesn't apply when, well, it should.
post #11 of 36
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Originally Posted by flyarz
I'm on Sprint's SERO plan, which is pretty sweet. Makes up for the hiccups -- plus mine aren't as bad as Poxy's.

That text message hike, though, seems like bullshit -- I don't see how they can just declare that this doesn't apply when, well, it should.
Because the last time they raised the texting rates, thousands of people used it as a loophole to quit. Now they've closed the loophole.
post #12 of 36
Ah -- so you're saying that they closed the loophole before you started a contract with them? If so, that makes much more sense. Thanks for clarifying.
post #13 of 36
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Originally Posted by yt
Stay away from Sprint. I just canceled my contract after four years of random overcharging and labyrinthine customer service and getting free was like the McCarthy hearings. After Sprint I don't ever want to have a contract again and recommend buying unlocked phones and just recharging your sim card with minutes as you need them.
I love this post. yt's like the Sarah Conner of cell phones.
post #14 of 36
I used to have Sprint but once they got together with Nextel it turned into rape as far as the bill went. I have Cingular now, only because I wanted the Blackjack, and I don't know what bullshit they're trying to pull with fewest dropped calls. If that's true I must be the only one skewing the numbers because it happens at least once a day. Everyone that has Verizon says it's the best, and I'll probably get it eventually.
post #15 of 36
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No, here's what happened. Their terms and conditions state that anyone can cancel their account without a fee if the company makes a material change to their service, which is what many argued happened the last time they raised texting rates, so they cancelled in droves. This time, Sprint specifically stated that it is not a "material change" to anyone's contract, since text messaging is an added feature, not part of their service. So even though this is an increase over what I signed up for, I can't get out of it because they have declared it a non-cancellable action.
post #16 of 36
Isn't there some mediation/arbitration clause which would allow you to argue that the increase is a material change? Or did your contract specifically allow them to define what constitutes a material change without you haivng any recourse?

(I haven't read the whole thread.)
post #17 of 36
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“This casual text messaging rate change does not qualify any of our customers for any kind of early termination fee waiver,” said Sprint Nextel spokeswoman Roni Singleton.
I've seen two arguments as to why this doesn't qualify, one that since you're not required to have text messaging, you can simply cancel text messaging if you don't like the hike, and the other that if you didn't cancel over the previous rate hike, you tacitly agreed to any further raises. And since I have a text package and only pay per message if I go over my monthly limit, they could probably argue that I am not adversely affected by this.

However, the fact that they put so much thought into this tells me they think it's a material change and are proactively covering their asses.

By the way, many think that this will lead other carriers to make a similar move, so if you like your texting, keep your eyes open.
post #18 of 36
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Originally Posted by R-Lu
I love this post. yt's like the Sarah Conner of cell phones.
No fate but what we make!
post #19 of 36
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Originally Posted by Eric C
Everyone that has Verizon says it's the best, and I'll probably get it eventually.
I'd been a bit of a cell phone whore, hopping around till I found one I was truly happy with, and that's been Verizon. I posted above that Sprint's service was fine, but they charged me twice what Verizon charges me for the identical plan. And I've also been with Cingular, and quite frankly, I'd have had better service sending S.O.S. signals from a campfire. Cingular was the worst - dropped calls all the time, shitty service. Plus, long story short, I changed my cell number a few years ago while I was with Cingular. Big mistake. Cingular didn't bother changing just my number - they renewed me for a whole new two year contract, starting that day, just because I wanted my number changed. And they didn't bother to tell me. I had the same phone, the same service - but a new number constituted a new contract, which I don't get at all (plus, I had to go to three different Cingular locations before any of them could figure out how to even change my number. Dolts.).

So a year later when my contract should have been up, I went to make the switch from Cingular to Verizon, I contacted Cingular to cancel and found out that I supposedly had alot more "quality" time to spend with them. Their service was literally so crappy, I paid through the nose to unload them and get Verizon. It sucked, but it was worth the money.

My brother recently got an iPhone, and we're both long-time Mac users. He loves the phone, and asked if I had plans to get one. I told him no way in hell, not as long as Apple has their exclusive contract with Cingular.
post #20 of 36
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson
By the way, many think that this will lead other carriers to make a similar move, so if you like your texting, keep your eyes open.
My favorite treatise on texting.
post #21 of 36
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson
So it's either wait it out another year or fork over $400 to cancel both lines of service. And if I had the cash, I'd be gone in a heartbeat.
You're not alone.
"Since changing service providers, I have tried on three occasions to cancel my service. Over six weeks, I have spent about 10 hours on the phone with Sprint customer service representatives, repeatedly explaining my predicament. And yet Sprint refuses to cancel my contract and continues to charge me for service."

There is, however, a way to get out of your contract without incurring the fee, but it's a little labor-intensive.
post #22 of 36
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Originally Posted by Eric C
Everyone that has Verizon says it's the best, and I'll probably get it eventually.
I've had Verizon for two years, and I can't foresee any reason to switch. I've heard a lot of horror stories, but the only problem I've ever had was when I was mistakenly charged for some roaming, and a little whining to customer service took care of that.
post #23 of 36
One problem that I have had with Sprint is the actual phones. Three phones I have bought from them have just stopped making outgoing calls after a while, and the Sprint people had no idea what was going on and couldn't fix them. So that's a new phone that has to be bought each time, and the contract has to be reupped to get the discount. Once my contract is up I'm going to switch companies.
post #24 of 36
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So I got an email from Sprint customer service last night informing me that all I have to do is call and ask to be switched from Nextel service to Sprint service, which they'll do for no fee, and I can get the plan I want. Why the phone monkey I spoke to never mentioned this little tidbit is beyond me, unless it's something they're doing as a courtesy.
post #25 of 36
I'd print that email out to make sure they don't try to loophole you somehow.
post #26 of 36
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Well, reading it again, it says I can switch with no activation fee or early termination fee, but it does say I have to switch phones, which, although they don't come out and say it, likely means I'd be re-upping for two years.
post #27 of 36
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson
Well, reading it again, it says I can switch with no activation fee or early termination fee, but it does say I have to switch phones, which, although they don't come out and say it, likely means I'd be re-upping for two years.
If you get the discount. Sprint's famous for tacking on the two-year contract for just changing your plan. If it's expired currently and you don't mind it, get them to toss you a new user deal on a new phone for the two-year contract. if you don't want a contract, see if you can buy the phone at retail with no contract.

I found you have ask to cancel your service and get sent to their customer retention department before they will negotiate with you though.
post #28 of 36
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson
Then I see that Sprint is raising its rates on text messages over the number you get each month by ten cents. Aha! A material change in my agreement! See ya, fuckers! Oh no. They've released a statement specifically stating that this does not count as a material change and that therefore no one can cancel their account over it without paying a fee.
Just noticed this - and they're almost always lying about that. Check this out for more info:

http://consumerist.com/consumer/tele...nge-290247.php
post #29 of 36
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Here's my dilemma -- the Sprint plan I want is $59.99 for 550 minutes on two lines. No other provider has a comparable rate for that price, and Sprint has nights and weekends starting at 7pm included, whereas most others I saw charged a fee for this. But I'm fairly sure I'd be hit with the two-year contract if I make the switch. So do I keep paying the higher rate for another 14 months, or do I get the lower rate (and possibly two new phones for free) but be bound for another two years? I'm beginning to think our service problems stem from the neolithic phones we have more than the network.
post #30 of 36
I have always been with Sprint, though I won't defend them at all. They have some truly terrible customer service issues (paying your bill in the store costs $5!), but service-wise, I don't have too many complaints. When I got my first phone and contract with them, I got two very nice phones as part of the deal. They convince dme to reup because again, they included some very nice phones. As far as service area, the only times I've ever had trouble are in states where you'd expect it, like the mountainous areas of Maryland, Virginia, and West Virginia. Plus I've noticed a few very small, but consistent little blind spots along certain highways.

If you're a pretty low maintenance cell phone customer, I don't see a problem with Sprint is you're concerned mostly with your monthly bill. If you're the type who's constantly switching plans, switching phones, adding/termination extra features, etc. that's where dealing with Sprint seems to become a nightmare. But again, I'm just one guy, with one experience. Anf for what it's worth, I think when this current contract is up I'll be switching to someone else, just based on price.
post #31 of 36
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Originally Posted by Stew
I think when this current contract is up I'll be switching to someone else, just based on price.
Like I said above, you'll get the exact same plan and phone with Verizon for half the price of Sprint. They absolutely bled me every month. And yeah, the service itself was fine, no complaint there. But it was a fortune.
post #32 of 36
Thread Starter 
Well, they'll port the lines over, but while I get a $150 rebate for my line, my girlfriend's line only gets $75, making the second phone a good bit more expensive. Not sure I want to do that yet.
post #33 of 36
Clearly, the only solution is to dump the girlfriend so you can get the cheaper phone and service.
post #34 of 36
Well, it seems that despite what I said above, I just might be switching from Verizon to T-Mobile in late March when my contract is up.

I have no real issues with Verizon's service, but I'd like to upgrade from a regular phone to a blackberry or sidekick device. The reason being - my office blocks anything worthwhile on the web with the exception of this site. My primary email address is with yahoo, and they have all web based addresses blocked - yahoo mail, gmail, hotmail, etc. MySpace is blocked, etc. I can check my email on my cell phone, but I can't reply, and I can't see alot of other sites. So in shopping around, I found that I could either stay with Verizon and pay a fucking fortune for a blackberry with a decent sized screen. Or I could take my chances and switch to T-Mobile and get either a slightly less expensive blackberry (also with a decent sized screen) or a Sidekick for even less.

T-Mobile is the only service so far that I haven't had a "cheap fling" with like the cell phone whore that I am. Can anyone here share their T-Mobile experiences? Anyone have a Sidekick? How is it compared to a blackberry? I know one guy I used to work with who had a T-Mobile Sidekick, and he absolutely loved it - and he was head of our tech department, which says alot. But he's the only person - I'd love to hear more reviews if you have them.
post #35 of 36
Psst.... if you want to get around blocked internet at work, check out this site- https://www.stupidcensorship.com/

Works wonders, although it doesn't do well with javascript.
post #36 of 36
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Originally Posted by Alex Riviello
Psst.... if you want to get around blocked internet at work, check out this site- https://www.stupidcensorship.com/.
Oooh... You're a very, very bad man. Thanks.

Seriously though, they're pretty up to date on sites like this - and with my luck, I'd get caught (I have the shittiest work karma in the world; I can almost guarantee they'd find out). So I think I should still trade up to a blackberry or sidekick. Besides - it'll be shiny and new, and I love small shiny objects, you know.
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