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Really? They needed a study for this?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science....ap/index.html

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Men want hot women, study confirms

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Science is confirming what most women know: When given the choice for a mate, men go for good looks.
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In the dating game, men know what they want.

And guys won't be surprised to learn that women are much choosier about partners than they are.

"Just because people say they're looking for a particular set of characteristics in a mate, someone like themselves, doesn't mean that is what they'll end up choosing," Peter M. Todd, of the cognitive science program at Indiana University, Bloomington, said in a telephone interview.

Researchers led by Todd report in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences that their study found humans were similar to most other mammals, "following Darwin's principle of choosy females and competitive males, even if humans say something different."

Their study involved 26 men and 20 women in Munich, Germany.

Participants ranged in age from 26 to their early 40s and took part in "speed dating," short meetings of three to seven minutes in which people chat, then move on to meet another dater. Afterward, participants check off the people they'd like to meet again, and dates can be arranged between pairs who select one another.

Speed dating let researchers look at a lot of mate choices in a short time, Todd said.

In the study, participants were asked before the session to fill out a questionnaire about what they were looking for in a mate, listing such categories as wealth and status, family commitment, physical appearance, healthiness and attractiveness.

After the session, the researchers compared what the participants said they were looking for with the people they actually chose to ask for another date.

Men's choices did not reflect their stated preferences, the researchers concluded. Instead, men appeared to base their decisions mostly on the women's physical attractiveness.

The men also appeared to be much less choosy. Men tended to select nearly every woman above a certain minimum attractiveness threshold, Todd said.

Women's actual choices, like men's, did not reflect their stated preferences, but they made more discriminating choices, the researchers found.

The scientists said women were aware of the importance of their own attractiveness to men, and adjusted their expectations to select the more desirable guys.

"Women made offers to men who had overall qualities that were on a par with the women's self-rated attractiveness. They didn't greatly overshoot their attractiveness," Todd said, "because part of the goal for women is to choose men who would stay with them."

But, he added, "they didn't go lower. They knew what they could get and aimed for that level."

So, it turns out, the women's attractiveness influenced the choices of the men and the women.
post #2 of 13
Ah, a nice companion for this story in the "no fucking shit" file.
post #3 of 13
Thread Starter 
We should make a thread devoted to studies that common sense can easily give the answer to.
post #4 of 13
I just love knowing part of my taxes goes to shit like this.

This just in: Fire's hot. Cancer's bad. AIDS hurts. (Thank you, Will Durst!)
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Originally Posted by Timothy225
I just love knowing part of my taxes goes to shit like this.

This just in: Fire's hot. Cancer's bad. AIDS hurts. (Thank you, Will Durst!)
Haha, in the words of Kevin Matchstick, "water".
post #6 of 13
What else can scientists do when the government prohibits them from doing real work but conduct "duh" studies.
post #7 of 13
Does anyone know how I can apply for a grant? I have this theory that trees are made of wood that I'd like to prove.
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Originally Posted by Timothy225
Does anyone know how I can apply for a grant? I have this theory that trees are made of wood that I'd like to prove.
Preposterous!
post #9 of 13
Water's wet, sky's blue, and ol' Satan Claus, he's out there.
post #10 of 13
I call shenanigans! This study is clearly made up by the Hot Women Industry lobby.

And don't think that all you "wooden tree" frauds are in the clear either.
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Originally Posted by Timothy225
Does anyone know how I can apply for a grant? I have this theory that trees are made of wood that I'd like to prove.
Could I borrow a little of your money? I'd like to prove the theory that if you walk into the path of an oncoming truck, you'll wind up as a mashed up body on the highway. I'm all over proving that.
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I don't want to come into this thread to be the stick in the mud and try to ruin everyone's fun... but...

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Originally Posted by Brendan
We should make a thread devoted to studies that common sense can easily give the answer to.
To be fair to scientists, take a look at the history of science. There are all kinds of things that everyone thought common sense could give answers to... well, until scientists found evidence against it all. In a scientific journal, you can't just say, well I think this is a factor because it is common sense. You need to provide evidence for EVERYTHING. If we allowed science to advance on "common sense arguments," we would have confusion throughout the scientific community.

This may seem painstaking, boring, and obvious at times... but a reasonable number of these studies that are seeking to quickly provide evidence for a "common sense statement" actually provide evidence against that common sense in the end.

Also, although the CNN article ignores this, the researcher who conducted this study is into Informatics, Mathematical Psychology, and Computational/Artificial Intelligence... and I think the larger point of this research was not just showing how men and women choose potential mates, but that he was able to come up with a very concrete mathematical system which can predict people's decision making in this situation. This will allow him (or other researchers in the future) to do more complicated studies where potential mate choice is a small part of the study, but one that they need to be able to predict or influence for the study to work properly (and now can potential do using his mathematical models of this decision making process).

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Originally Posted by Tomothy225
I just love knowing part of my taxes goes to shit like this.

Does anyone know how I can apply for a grant? I have this theory that trees are made of wood that I'd like to prove.
To be fair, probably somewhere between $0 and $200 of tax money went to this. A study like this would also not need a grant. (I'm not saying that tax money didn't go to this, or that he doesn't have a grant that includes this research, just that it is not necessary.)

Research like this is amazingly cheap. The participants were probably volunteers, and the researcher is probably being paid by his University (i.e., the students and alumni are mostly paying his salary).

If he does have a grant, he likely didn't spend much if any money on this, as there is nothing to spend money on. This isn't like medical research where you need thousands and thousands of dollars of equipment, reagents, etc. You need yourself, some volunteers, and a computer to do your math and stats on (which most people already have). Oh, and probably some graduate students or volunteer undergrads to help collect data.
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