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Here's a useful site to help educate yourselves, hope it helps.
http://www.junkscience.com/index.html
Just keep telling yourself that, pal.
post #52 of 57
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Originally Posted by Snaieke
Here's a useful site to help educate yourselves, hope it helps.
http://www.junkscience.com/index.html
Well, it did educate me on how one should NOT design a site.

So I guess it has that going for it.
post #53 of 57
Junk science is such an oxymoron. People who use it are not scientists and the 'evidence' they use is more aptly named junk science than what they are trying to debunk.
post #54 of 57
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UN issues 'final wake-up call' on population and environment
By James Kanter
Published: October 25, 2007

PARIS: The human population is living far beyond its means and inflicting damage on the environment that could pass points of no return, according to a major report issued Thursday by the United Nations.

Climate change, the rate of extinction of species and the challenge of feeding a growing population are among the threats putting humanity at risk, the UN Environment Program said in its fourth Global Environmental Outlook since 1997.

"The human population is now so large that the amount of resources needed to sustain it exceeds what is available at current consumption patterns," Achim Steiner, the executive director of the program, said in a telephone interview. Efficient use of resources and reducing waste now are "among the greatest challenges at the beginning of 21st century," he said.

The program described its report, which is prepared by 388 experts and scientists, as the broadest and deepest of those that the UN issues on the environment and called it "the final wake-up call to the international community."

Over the past two decades the world population has increased by almost 34 percent to 6.7 billion from 5 billion; similarly, the financial wealth of the planet has soared by about a third. But the land available to each person on earth had shrunk by 2005 to 2.02 hectares, or 5 acres, from 7.91 hectares in 1900 and was projected to drop to 1.63 hectares for each person by 2050, the report said.

The result of that population growth combined with unsustainable consumption has resulted in an increasingly stressed planet where natural disasters and environmental degradation endanger millions of humans, as well as plant and animal species, the report said.

Steiner said that demand for resources was close to 22 hectares per person, a figure that would have to be cut to between 15 and 16 hectares per person to stay within existing, sustainable limits.

Persistent problems identified by the report include a rapid rise of so-called dead zones, where marine life no longer can be supported because of depletion of oxygen caused by pollutants like fertilizers. Also included is the resurgence of diseases linked with environmental degradation.

The report is being published two decades after a commission headed by the former Norwegian prime minister Gro Harlem Brundtland warned that the survival of humanity was at stake from unsustainable development.

Steiner said many of the problems identified by the Brundtland Commission were even more acute because not enough had been done to stop environmental degradation as flows of goods, services, people, technologies and workers had expanded, even to isolated populations.

He did, however, identify some reasons for hope that pointed toward better environmental stewardship.

He said West European governments had taken effective measures to reduce air pollutants, and he praised efforts in parts of Brazil to roll back deforestation in the Amazon. He said an international treaty to tackle the hole in the earth's ozone layer had led to the phasing-out of release of 95 percent of ozone-damaging chemicals.

Steiner said more intelligent management of scarce resources including fishing grounds, land and water was needed to sustain a still larger global population, which he said was expected to stabilize at between 8 billion and 10 billion people.

"Life would be easier if we didn't have the kind of population growth rates that we have at the moment," Steiner said. "But to force people to stop having children would be a simplistic answer. The more realistic, ethical and practical issue is to accelerate human well-being and make more rational use of the resources we have on this planet."

Steiner said environmental tipping points, at which degradation can lead to abrupt, accelerating or potentially irreversible changes, would increasingly occur in locations like particular rivers or forests, where populations would lack the ability to repair damage because the gravity of a problem would be far beyond their physical or economic means.

Looking ahead, Steiner said parts of Africa could reach environmental tipping points if changing rainfall patterns stemming from climate change turned semi-arid zones into arid zones, and made agriculture that sustained millions of people much harder.

Steiner said other tipping points triggered by climate change could occur in areas like India and China if Himalayan glaciers shrank so much that they no longer supplied adequate amounts of water to populations in those countries.

He also warned of a global collapse of all species being fished by 2050, if fishing around the world continued at its present pace.

The report said 250 percent more fish are being caught than the oceans can produce in a sustainable manner, and that the number of fish stocks classed as collapsed had roughly doubled to 30 percent globally over the past 20 years.
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post #55 of 57
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The rest is here.
The answer is let just kill off the third world. This the people bomb bullshit all over again. Why are you worried about something that is going to effect the world in 100 year when you will have mass death from other factors in 20 to 50 years. The sexing of female fetuses in many countries like India, China, and the middle east will lead to large scale unrest in these countries and will in all likelihood lead to wars with in the next 20 years. Oil will start to run dry soon, and by 2050 will be all but gone. This will also lead to unrest and wars. Salving the energy problem would also help you green house gass problem. If we could salve the energy problem we would also salve a lot of the world poverty problems, which in turn would also help the environment problems, because rich people can afford to be educated and environmentally friendly. What the world need is a clean renewable energy source that cost less then 50 cent for the equivalent of say a gallon gas.
post #56 of 57
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It's like the "Yes Men"'s Vivoleum gag: http://youtube.com/watch?v=WkLzK13rI-Y
post #57 of 57
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It's like the "Yes Men"'s Vivoleum gag: http://youtube.com/watch?v=WkLzK13rI-Y
That is some funny shit girl, but I was think taking Solar to a new level. I don't see global warming as a emission or environment problem. I see it was a energy and a poverty problem.
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