Come visit West Virginia! We've got torture! - Page 3

I'm speedy.

I hope she didn't just pour sugar in cold unsweet tea. It's a common Yankee mistake. To paraphrase Millette, sweet tea is ingrained in Southern culture.

::runs back to the kitchen::

I know this much: heat is involved. and supersaturation. Boiling? Possibly. When I can get a 32oz glass of it for $.39 at McDonald's, I'm not going to be bothered to make my own.

Because thread callbacks are always fun, here's Alton Brown's recipe for sweet tea.

My city is more womanly than yours.

My city was built on Rock 'n' Roll.

Tea racist.

My city was built on German stoicism so thickly concentrated that it actually became a physical object. Then we all got shitfaced. Prost!

Zooey: Alton Brown is a fellow University of Georgia graduate. The man knows his tea!

Lisa: You bet I am!

Wait. Does that mean he's also a raging racist, Joe?

Alton is only racist when it comes to apples. Fuck those Green Granny Smith wannabes.

Well, I'm not sure if he's actually from Georgia or not. And I don't know if simply going to school there would be enough exposure to pick up the hatred that is ingrained in Southern culture. Possibly. I'm out of my element on this one -- we'll await a ruling from Graynadian.

Joe, I'm sorry to tell you this, but I'm a grad student at Georgia Tech.

Also, I passed the 1000 post mark with this thread. Not too shabby.

Then you're probably a racist, too. God! They're everywhere!!

As well we should. Can't make a move without the resident "Culture Vulture" checking in.

Outside of like, Ars Technica, I bet we have more graduate degrees on these boards than almost any other.

I bet you're right - this place is pretty darn clever. We should start a thread and determine the educational achievements of the average Chewer. I'll bring my Phi Beta Kappa key, bitches.

The centuries of political compromises in the name of allowing slavery starting from the constitution, the Civil War, Jim Crow laws, the Dixiecrats, MLK, constitutional marriage amendments, Jena, etc. Yes, hatred is ingrained in southern culture more so than in any other part of North America, from the history of written laws to the publically displayed attitudes of the cultural leaders. Yes, a dwindling yet significant number of Southerners are racist, particularly in rural areas.

And Miss Zooey, voluntarily segregated ethnic communities are quite different from ingrained, institutionalized racism leading to ghettoization. Toronto and Montreal have lots of ethnic conclaves, but these are voluntary, as in rather than the majority economically, politically and culturally rejecting the minority, the minorities wanted to be live separately for the sake of comfort.

If you guys disagree with how I said it, fine. If you disagree with what I said, ask yourself if you can name a more racist part of North America.

I'm done with this.

Naaah, I bring down the quota with my measly B.A. in Liberal Arts degree. I do appreciate all the smart people letting me bask in their super-intelligence. And since this is a racist thread, you guys can just say that I'm dragging your property value down. There goes the neighborhood!
I wonder if he has on his hip-waders yet?

I'll see your Phi Beta Kappa and match it with my Beta Gamma Sigma. I'm a business student...we don't have time for your wishy-washy liberal arts keys. Although, I dated a Phi Beta Kappa girl once...for some reason, that was a turn on.

Hey hey HEY now... I will foist my Journalism major-English minor self onto each and every one of your posts and grade them like DaveB does!

The segregation in Milwaukee isn't voluntary across the board. A nasty web of decades of institutionalized racism and socioeconomic manipulation has lead to the current racial layout of my dear city. But I'm sure you've read up on the cultural and political history of my hometown prior to explaining why my city is the way it is to me. Well done!

Ask yourself why the ethnic minorities in Canada have segregated themselves, why they automatically assume that the ethnic majority would reject them. Could it be - jeez, I don't know - racism?!

I would argue that racism is a serious problem not only in North America, but pretty much everywhere. You've done jack to prove what you're asserting and I think it's incredibly myopic of you to assume that the particular type of racism that comes out of the South is somehow more severe than in other parts of the United States/world.

I'm going to bet that you aren't.

And then DaveB will come in here and grade your posts... break the cycle, Lisa, break the cycle!

DaveB corrects my papers for me before I turn them in. It's both terrifying and magnificent.

A business major calling someone wishy washy? I'll raise you computer science.

You're right... no good can come of this...

(*Hangs head shamefully*)

I hate to tell you but it is United States culture that you are talking about. Read Native Son. The reason the South was a focal point of racism was because of the larger numbers of African-Americans in the region. Disenfranchising them was a way for the white population to keep the status quo. It is also a reflection of the vulgar Calvinism that was prevalent in the region. I find this just as disgusting as anyone, but don't act like the rest of the United States was somehow different. What about the Watts riots and Detroit riots? What about the Ghettos in the large northern cities. I am not saying that what has happened in the south was not disgusting, and I think flying the Confederate flag is at best in bad taste. However, this idea that the south was racist and the rest of the nation just looked on in horror is revisionist bullshit. The whole nation has been guilty of racism. The South was the focal point because of the large numbers of African-Americans that inhabit the region.

Oh, yeah! By this time next year, I'll undoubtedly be Beta Phi Mu, too! Aliis inserviendo consumor!

Well, I've only got a BA, too, but I've got 2 of them, which I think gives me a little extra cred with the smart kids. And I am Phi Beta Kappa. Zooey, if we ever meet, we can do the secret handshake.

Graynadian, I disagree with what you said, because it's bullshit, AND the way you said it, because you're an ignorant prick.

And, on that note, I must depart for the day. Even though my city isn't as "black" as Graynadian's, I still have some non-whitefolk that need to get dealt with, and I need to pick up my hood from the cleaners.

Lawyer, buddy. I'll get as technical as you'd like (although, we're both very technical in very different ways).

I was not, however, Order of the Coif, because I didn't much care for my legal education.

See, you make it sound bad, but my summers were never complete without a plate of catfish and a big heaping pile of deep-fried racism (the unappealing aftertaste is severely cut if you cover it in gravy). For 30 extra cents you could get it with hush puppies. Add a big glass of sweet tea and you have yourself some good beach eating. For some reason this was on the Jersey shore. Guess they didn't get the memo that they were in the North and therefore were no longer required to judge people based on physical and behavioral differences.

So, the only way to debate your thesis is to make a similar generalized argument about another place? That's a bit unfair. You're basically forcing people to play by your rickety rules. You have to see that people are not arguing that there is no or little racism in the South. The argument you're up against is one that says... well, actually just reread the posts because repeating it is a pain in the ass since it's been repeated over and over again and you refuse to see what people are saying.

But then I just have a measly BFA so what the hell do I know?

Well I didn't finish my MA in English (I do plan on getting a master's at some point though). They wouldn't let me only study Shakespeare and Pynchon, so I left.

Is there racism in the South? You bet your ass. I have seen it ugly and personal and coming from both ways.

That said, yeah, there is plenty elsewhere. All those nice militias in the middle of the country, they aren't exactly the friendliest of groups to minorities. And I believe it was the NYPD which sodomized a Haitian man with a toilet plunger; but I am sure race had nothing to do with that. Also, I am pretty sure Native Americans would have some fun things to say about people in the west. I lived in Austin for three years and I saw plenty of racism of hispanics against blacks and vice versa.

Racism is around and not specific to one area.

But thanks for playing.

Oh, and for someone who lives in New Orleans and spent 9 long years in Mississippi, I have never considered West Virginia "the South." Hell, I consider most people from North of Lake Ponchartrain as being from another country.

the term moolie is proof that racism isn't a southern thing.

You, sir, are magnificent. Allow me to buy you an ice cream cone - just as long as it's not one of those chocolate and vanilla twists. Gotta keep 'em seperate in the racist thread.

Aw, thanks. But maybe we can slip over to Canada where everything is so harmonious that all the flavors- regardless of color, optimum freeze point, and nut content- blend together in a heart-lifting psalm of happiness. As evidenced by the popular Baskin-Robbins 1 Flavor in Toronto. ("If you can't find something you like here, you probably have a Confederate flag tattooed on your arse, buddy!")

The fact that there is racism all over the place does not make it equivalent in all places and circumstances.

Just sayin'.

Oh, good. I believe I'll go whistle "Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah" while I drink a mint julep and walk around my plantation.

That what you needed to hear, Graynadian?

"Ein Volk Ein Reich Ein Furher Cat!"

It's funny, I experience retarded pseudo-racist bullshit all the time here in LA. A couple of friends just moved here from Colorado, took a wrong turn on La Brea off of the 10 freeway, and had a total shit fit because they were suddenly in Compton. They acted like they were on the verge of being raped by dirty negroids, and I told them to chill the fuck out and turn around. I can't stand how bugged out people get. I've spent plenty of time with both black and Mexican friends in Inglewood and Compton, and felt way more fucking relaxed than I did in, say, Beverly Hills or Brentwood. Maybe it's because I find areas like BH or Brentwood much more inherently nauseating, but I'd rather kick back at Granny's House of Soul Food off of Crenshaw Boulevard than some pretentious shithole off of Rodeo Drive.

Racist bastard.