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post #1 of 33
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I have no idea where to put this, but this letter-to-the-editor in my hometown rag really amused me to no end. Check it out:

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Originally Posted by Some Douche
Your Sunday article on dog ownership in the U.S. stated that pit bulls are the sixth-most-popular dog in the country. ("Chihuahuas - they're hot," Republic, Sunday).

That's as frightening a thought as knowing that virtually anyone can easily obtain a weapon designed to kill other human beings.

I never heard of a pit bull until a few decades ago. The dogs to be concerned about when I was growing up in Chicago in the 1940s and 1950s were Doberman pinschers and German police dogs. They are both sizable dogs and can do quite a bit of damage to a sizable, unarmed male like myself, let alone to a small child or frail, elderly person.

They don't, however, represent the same threat pit bulls do. The heads and shoulders of pit bulls are massive, and their teeth and jaws are deadly powerful.

To me, comments like "negative press about pit bulls reflects bad owners, not a bad breed" are ridiculous and lack common sense. Pit bulls have been wreaking havoc across the country for several decades now, and I just can't understand why we haven't banned them.

If I find out someone in my neighborhood has one, I will immediately purchase a gun and keep it on me when outside. I might even carry a hand grenade or two; that's how much respect I have for the threat pit bulls represent!
I love this idea of this nimrod arming himself with hand grenades and running around the neighborhood. Sometimes I miss Arizona....
post #2 of 33
I'm afraid of visiting the U.S. because of the grenade-carrying public there... If I ever visit there, I'm going to carry a bazooka.
post #3 of 33
In my opinion a senile senior citizen is scarier than a pit bull. Stop worrying about dogs and keep your eyes on the road. Let's hop the curb and kill another 20 people please. I might even carry a hand grenade with me while I walk.
post #4 of 33
The same thing was said about black people not so long ago so you have to chalk remarks like that up to arrogance, paranoia and good ole'fashion ignorant douchebagery. Wreaking havoc for decades? Bullshit.

I find it amusing that out of all of the millions of homes with pitts as pets over many generations, only recently have they started eating people. Sounds like it's lousy owners that never gets mentioned. A dog only does what it's trained to do or forced to do, if they are abused, they will strike out.

It's lousy owners, the rapper-wannabes like Vick and other assholes in the media who only report on the extreme and rare instances.

I made the mistake of listening to MANCOW in the Morning and he said they all should be rounded up and thrown in an incinerator. Again, someone talking out of their ass.

A little time spent with the breed, research and more time spent will kill any notion of them being a "vicous breed", which is still bullshit backed up by nothing. So is the idea that their jaws lock-total and complete lie.

As soon as I can, I will get me another pitt just to prove I'm right and to piss off anyone who believes like this cockblaster in the article.

Dumb ass motherfuckers.
post #5 of 33
Old people behind the wheel are far worse a threat.
post #6 of 33
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Originally Posted by General Zod
The same thing was said about black people not so long ago

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I never heard of a black person until a few decades ago. The people to be concerned about when I was growing up in Chicago in the 1940s and 1950s were Italians and Germans. They are both sizable races and can do quite a bit of damage to a sizable, unarmed male like myself, let alone to a small child or frail, elderly person.

They don't, however, represent the same threat black people do. The heads and shoulders of black people are massive, and their teeth and jaws are deadly powerful.
I must've missed that day in history class.
post #7 of 33
I like dogs, but Pitbull's seriously scare the shit out of me.
post #8 of 33
I don't know a lot about dogs, but are pitbulls really the most dangerous breed? Rottweilers have a pretty similar build and seem to be much larger dogs. There are plenty of larger dogs that I would assume to be more dangerous due to their size and strength.
post #9 of 33
I'm not sure pit bulls are more likely to be violent than any other breed (any dog can attack people, given the proper circumstances), it's just that they're so damn powerful that if they do become aggressive, they can cause a lot more damage than a Jack Russell terrier.

That said, I like pit bulls just fine, and every one that I've known have been gentle and sweet. The owners are always the most important factor in determining threat levels.
post #10 of 33
Are pitbulls not a breed of dog specifically bred to destroy shit?
post #11 of 33
A gerbil bit me once.
post #12 of 33
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Originally Posted by Spike Marshall
Are pitbulls not a breed of dog specifically bred to destroy shit?
The mission statement for Bad Newz Kennels.
post #13 of 33
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Marshall
Are pitbulls not a breed of dog specifically bred to destroy shit?
No, but I was!
post #14 of 33
Never understood the appeal of pits. I love dogs, but they are one of the uglier and more dangerous breeds, so outside of that whole "my dog's the baddest mother on the block" thing, which is the worst possible reason to own a pet, I don't get why anyone would choose one over one of the hundred gentler, handsomer breeds.
post #15 of 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Marshall
Are pitbulls not a breed of dog specifically bred to destroy shit?
No. Unless your a rapper.
post #16 of 33
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Originally Posted by General Zod
No. Unless your a rapper.
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Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Originally bred from bull-and-terrier crosses brought to America from England and Ireland in the 1800s, they were popular in emerging cities for the sport of dog fighting. They were originally created for the sport of bull-baiting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Pitbull_Terrier
post #17 of 33
You're more likely to be bitten by a damn Chihuahua than a Pit Bull or a Rottweiler. The incidents with smaller dogs just don't get reported as news because you put a band-aid on, and that's that. It's not that a Pit Bull is so much more likely to attack you, it's that if it does, you're in some serious trouble.

But I agree with the bad owner thing. The thing is, people who train their dogs to kill are more likely to buy these breeds because they're powerful. It's not due to any inherent viciousness in the breed.
post #18 of 33
They're dogs breed to kill Bulls.

It's not a case of being a bad owner, it's a case of not being the best owner in the goddamn world.
post #19 of 33
Being bred to kill bulls makes them physically capable of killing bulls. It doesn't make them wish they could be killing a bull right now.

Honestly, these arguments make me want to own a Pit Bull just to spite people. I have a Rottweiler, and I face this crap all the time. He's the laziest, nicest, most passive dog I've ever known. My dad had a Doberman who was the same way. It's all in how you raise them, and you don't have to be a dog-raising expert to do it. Blaming the breed is an easy answer, and life doesn't work that way.
post #20 of 33
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Originally Posted by Greg David
Being bred to kill bulls makes them physically capable of killing bulls. It doesn't make them wish they could be killing a bull right now.

Honestly, these arguments make me want to own a Pit Bull just to spite people. I have a Rottweiler, and I face this crap all the time. He's the laziest, nicest, most passive dog I've ever known. My dad had a Doberman who was the same way. It's all in how you raise them, and you don't have to be a dog-raising expert to do it. Blaming the breed is an easy answer, and life doesn't work that way.
Like I said, I like dogs. My Uncle runs a Rescue home so I've had a lot of dealings with dogs and the only breed of dogs who have ever attacked me or my uncle have been Pitbulls.

There's just something wrong with their wiring.

I don't think I've ever met a Rottweiler who wasn't a soft lump.
post #21 of 33
Just to add something to a debate I know very little about; the city of Toronto has passed strict laws regarding pitbulls, meaning that no new putbulls may be brought into the city, and all pitbulls must be muzzled in public. This was in response to several prominent pitbull attacks against children in recent years.

My feeling is that any breed of dog has the potential for violence, especially when raised poorly, but that dogs which have been selectively bred for their aggressive temperment and capacity to inflict harm are more likely to be violent. I don't buy the idea that pitbulls are just as likely as other breeds to be violent.
post #22 of 33
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Originally Posted by Spike Marshall
Like I said, I like dogs. My Uncle runs a Rescue home so I've had a lot of dealings with dogs and the only breed of dogs who have ever attacked me or my uncle have been Pitbulls.

There's just something wrong with their wiring.
Racist.
post #23 of 33
I've spent some years volunteering for a pit bull rescue. Personally I find them one of the most stable breeds there are. They are actually very soft in their temperaments and very people friendly in general.

The problems with dogs in general and the ones that find themselves in the spotlight for the time being are complicated and have to do with being the dog-du-jour and about how genuinely screwed up our society is in how it deals with ownership of animals.

Someone wants to breed dogs in their backyard without any idea of what breeding involves or what a temperament correct dog is? No problem! They can literally churn out litter after litter of dogs and sell them in the classifieds with no license or responsibility involved whatsoever! Spend some time in shelters in the larger metropolitan areas and see the huge amount of unwanted dogs. It's pretty shocking really.

Remember when people thought that Doberman brains swelled making them angry? People really thought it was true and would swear up and down that they were "wired" differently. The German Shepherd went through it and so did the Rottweiller.

Pitbulls are no more differently "wired" than any other dog is as a breed and in my experience a temperament correct pitbull is one of the most trustworthy breeds with people there are.

It's a funny by product of their being bred for fighting that the dog fighters (scumbags imo) would actually cull dogs or neuter dogs that showed any human aggression. A temperament correct pitbull should LOVE humans and being around them.

I'm sure other people have their own opinions and I can only offer mine which is based on some years of experience with them.

I don't know if any of you have dogster pages, but here's my boy Shermans: LINK
post #24 of 33
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Originally Posted by KJ43
I've spent some years volunteering for a pit bull rescue. Personally I find them one of the most stable breeds there are. They are actually very soft in their temperaments and very people friendly in general.

The problems with dogs in general and the ones that find themselves in the spotlight for the time being are complicated and have to do with being the dog-du-jour and about how genuinely screwed up our society is in how it deals with ownership of animals.

Someone wants to breed dogs in their backyard without any idea of what breeding involves or what a temperament correct dog is? No problem! They can literally churn out litter after litter of dogs and sell them in the classifieds with no license or responsibility involved whatsoever! Spend some time in shelters in the larger metropolitan areas and see the huge amount of unwanted dogs. It's pretty shocking really.

Remember when people thought that Doberman brains swelled making them angry? People really thought it was true and would swear up and down that they were "wired" differently. The German Shepherd went through it and so did the Rottweiller.

Pitbulls are no more differently "wired" than any other dog is as a breed and in my experience a temperament correct pitbull is one of the most trustworthy breeds with people there are.

It's a funny by product of their being bred for fighting that the dog fighters (scumbags imo) would actually cull dogs or neuter dogs that showed any human aggression. A temperament correct pitbull should LOVE humans and being around them.

I'm sure other people have their own opinions and I can only offer mine which is based on some years of experience with them.

I don't know if any of you have dogster pages, but here's my boy Shermans: LINK
I'm not comparing my experience, but I've heard much the same thing. But this does raise a question; is it fair to other dogs to have a breed around which is genetically inclined (this doesn't mean compelled) to feel aggressive towards them and attack them? I think virtually everyone can agree that regardless of their natural disposition towards humans, pitbulls were bred to kill other dogs, particularly other pitbulls. There are no tap-outs in dogfighting, one of the main reasons I'm against it.
post #25 of 33
Sure...but what about the REAL guardian breeds then? The dogs that were BRED to be wary of humans.

There is a reason that the mastiff breeds have the size that they do. Pitbulls are the dog of the day and that will change once the people that don't have a clue about the dog move on to the next one. Maybe the Presa Canario's will catch their fancy...who knows what it will be. That's the dog that attacked Diane Whipple in San Francisco. Funny that people always think it was a pitbull that did that.

It's all about knowing what your dog is about and being a good owner of that dog. There really need to be some laws out there about this but people seem to think that this is the 1920's or something still and that we have the right to churn out hundreds of dogs per person (exaggeration I know) without any responsibility.

The pitbull has been a part of America since around the 1800's. Hell...Petey from the Little Rascals was a pitbull. It really is a shame that a dog that was so beloved by America for so long has been so abused.

I've read stories about how kids use their dogs to so that they can be mean. Beating them with boards before they go out for walks so that they are angry to keep the badass image these kids want. I've seen dogs that were thrown onto lit barbeques in front of a crowd of people for fun. Dogs with chemical burns. There sure is a problem here...it's really hard to pin it on the dogs imo.
post #26 of 33
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Originally Posted by Devildoubt
I love this idea of this nimrod arming himself with hand grenades and running around the neighborhood...
Grenade wielding elderly
post #27 of 33
While pits and rotts may not be as violent as other breeds the fact still remains that more often than not they get raised by people who have no clue what they are doing. For every Zod who is a good owner and can raise a peaceful animal there a five Vicks or DMX who think it's cool to have a warrior dog that'll eventually get loose and maul some poor kid.

post #28 of 33
Don't forget Ving Rhames' slave dog.
post #29 of 33
What do you get when you combine a pitbull with Lassie?
A dog that will bite off your leg, then go for help...

Ving Rhames' dogs apparently didn't kill that guy.
http://www.hollywood.com/news/Rhames...Attack/4534721
The article says he died of a heart attack while running away from them, but I wonder if he died and they tried to "wake" him sensing there was something wrong. Another article said his wounds were slight.
post #30 of 33
My neighbors have pits, and it doesn't bother me in the slightest. I do, however, walk around the neighborhood with my pants stuffed with hand grenades, but that's completely unrelated to pit bulls.
post #31 of 33
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Originally Posted by SneakyPete
The article says he died of a heart attack while running away from them...
If only he had hand grenades....
post #32 of 33
Pitt Bulls don't kill people. Pitt Bull's teeth kill people.
post #33 of 33
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Originally Posted by Devildoubt
I have no idea where to put this...
http://chud.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102726
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