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post #1 of 22
9/22/07 at 12:04pm
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Tommy Monaghan and the gang are back!

The boys are all characterized in an instant and equally instantly you love them again. The only thing I found a bit off was the Flash being written as a bit of an asshole, but I guess that's Ennis for ya. This issue was fun as hell and you should all buy it to get DC's asses in gear and re-release the trades. There's enough callbacks to the series to make anyone curious.

Shilling? Sure, but it's a shill out of love. A love-shill. Baby, love-shill.
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post #2 of 22
9/22/07 at 12:51pm
Outstanding. As you could tell from my avatar I'm a huge fan, can't wait to pick this up. Hopefully they somehow get into why Batman never bothered Tommy and the boys after the first storyline or so and if the Joker ever came looking for revenge. If not that would make a great mini after this one wraps.

Here's hoping for a little Section 8/JLA skirmish.
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post #3 of 22
9/22/07 at 1:16pm
I've never read Hitman and am not a big JLA fan, but I picked this up for Ennis alone. Plus he mentioned in an interview that if it sells well it might drum up interest in reissuing the Hitman trades, then I could finally read the damn thing.
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post #4 of 22
9/22/07 at 3:32pm
Whoa, what?

Hadn't everyone in Hitman died?
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post #5 of 22
9/22/07 at 5:51pm
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Originally Posted by Nexus
Whoa, what?

Hadn't everyone in Hitman died?
It's a shelf book. It takes place before he died, soon after he met Superman. Though I bet if it sells well enough he could make a return. He's a comic book character after all.
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post #6 of 22
9/22/07 at 6:01pm
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Originally Posted by MikeShaynePI
It's a shelf book. It takes place before he died, soon after he met Superman. Though I bet if it sells well enough he could make a return. He's a comic book character after all.
Yeah, I was half joking with the notion of mortality in comics, but half shocked that there was the possibility Ennis had ressurected a character whose demise was foreshadowed through basically the entirety of his series.


PS - These days you are definetely born again hard, Private Shayne.
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post #7 of 22
9/22/07 at 6:06pm
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Originally Posted by Luca S.
The only thing I found a bit off was the Flash being written as a bit of an asshole, but I guess that's Ennis for ya.
Yeah, what's up with that. Weren't both Wally and Kyle the rookies in the group, both seen as young and inexperienced by the others, but best friends themselves? The same Wally makes a wise crack, Kyle says "did you say something?" moment happened like 3 or 4 times.
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post #8 of 22
9/22/07 at 9:21pm
With the strong rumor Ennis is ending his Punisher run, a return to Hitman would seem like a strong possibility. All he really has on his plate now is The Boys and Streets of Glory (another pickup this week).
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post #9 of 22
9/24/07 at 12:30am
Great issue, BTW. This is superior Ennis - Ennis working with subtle moral distinctions and filthy humour. I love this story is being told by Superman years after the death of Tommy. I'd be more upset of The Flash's treatment of Kyle if Superman didn't upbraid him. And Ennis has always written Rayner as a bit of a bonehead - "I'm reading your mind right now, pal, and believe me, it's a pretty fast read..."


Great bits:
-"Why didn't you take the job with Fox?"
"What they do isn't journalism."
-It was sweet seeing Sean, Ringo, Nat, Hacken - even posthumously for some of them. Also, Hacken's useless little fake hand.
-Superman signed Kyoto!
-Wonder Woman serving coffee, Rayner using a yo-yo.
-Tommy's brown-nosing of GL after he saves his bacon. We just should've seen a second of Tommy choking to death first.
-"Oh yeah, baby, do the thing with the trunk."
-Rayner met Bueno Excellente - under different circumstances.

Shame this is only a 2-issue mini. But now that I've read it, Tommy should stay dead - it would be like bringing back Augustus McCrae and the Hat Creek gang, or something.
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post #10 of 22
9/24/07 at 12:45am
It's a nice issue, I particularly liked the call back to Grant Morrison's brief use of Tommy during his JLA rehaul (the WW / X-ray specs gag). I was always on the fence about Hitman as a book, something about it never fully clicked with me, but it was certainly better than The Boys, which I've given up on.
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post #11 of 22
9/24/07 at 1:40am
I just wonder if DC caught on what Ennis alluded to happening between GL and Bueno Excellente. Now, that's some shit out of The Boys.

But anyone who thinks Ennis simply pisses on superheroes - his attachment to them here is obvious.
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post #12 of 22
9/24/07 at 4:37am
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He clearly loves Superman, at least.
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post #13 of 22
9/24/07 at 1:23pm
Not just Superman - even though he has put GL through the ringer, it is not malicious.
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post #14 of 22
9/24/07 at 1:26pm
I'd be more confident about the possibility of an ongoing if DC had even bothered to release all of the original run in trades.
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post #15 of 22
9/24/07 at 2:35pm
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I don't want an ongoing. I want the original run in trades. The ending was perfect.
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post #16 of 22
9/26/07 at 9:06pm
So much of the strong stuff came towards the end. Tommy started growing up when Pat died, but Who Dares Wins was, I think, the point where he really realized the price of the life he was in.

Heck, Ennis is so popular now a Hitman hardcover would probably do well...
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post #17 of 22
9/27/07 at 12:50pm
Yeah, the mini is set in the past, before even Ringo kicked it.

And Flash and Kyle weren't rookies together... GL was a rookie, but Wally West had more than enough experience from back during his Teen Titans day. GL was the only one who had had his powers for, say, a year's worth (in DCU canon).

The obvious setup for a issue #2 "GL shows Flash he's a good hero" moment was kinda annoying, but aside from that I loved it.
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post #18 of 22
9/27/07 at 7:29pm
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Originally Posted by BTSMGL
And Flash and Kyle weren't rookies together... GL was a rookie, but Wally West had more than enough experience from back during his Teen Titans day. GL was the only one who had had his powers for, say, a year's worth (in DCU canon).
Wally had recently made it to the big leagues, ie not the Teen Titans or as a sidekick. Both him and GL were considered the youngins of the group.
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post #19 of 22
9/28/07 at 11:52am
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Originally Posted by MikeShaynePI
Both him and GL were considered the youngins of the group.
Yeah, no doubt, but West had more superhero experience and had been mingling amongst these guys a whole lot longer than Kyle, is all I'm saying.

That could account for him being all cocky.
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post #20 of 22
10/4/07 at 11:56am
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Just read #2. God, DC, bring back the trades, you sons of bitches. The Tommy/Superman relationship works like gangbusters.
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post #21 of 22
10/4/07 at 12:58pm
I love these were back-to-back.
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post #22 of 22
10/17/07 at 8:35pm
From Wikipedia's Wally West page:
"Having grown up with Jordan as Green Lantern and having always seen him as 'Uncle Hal', West did not warmly embrace Rayner when Rayner first took over the mantle and was very critical and sometimes harsh with Rayner during his early days. In time, West eventually accepted Rayner as Green Lantern and they became best friends and supporters."

Guess I only remember when they were best friends and supporters.
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