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Another guy that needs to die.

post #1 of 55
9/24/07 at 11:13am
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http://www.ajc.com/news/content/shar...ded.html?imw=Y
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post #2 of 55
9/24/07 at 11:19am
Holy hell... not cool.
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post #3 of 55
9/24/07 at 11:25am
Being drunk has never made me want to maim animals. This guy obviously has issues. Despicable.
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post #4 of 55
9/24/07 at 11:26am
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I know some folks will be like "it's just a duck". Fuck that, someone who intentionally does something like that is a threat and a cunt.
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post #5 of 55
9/24/07 at 11:28am
That and he did it in front of people and was joking with them about it. What an asshole.
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post #6 of 55
9/24/07 at 11:31am
No such thing as "just a duck." It's sick, and, like Soul said, this guy obviously has some issues. He should be kept away from pets and small children. Forever.

This I don't get, though -

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If convicted, he could face up to two years in prison and a $5,000 fine, said Tim Shields, general counsel with the Minnesota Federated Humane Societies. Shields said the incident was "unconscionable," and that having live ducks in a hotel lobby puts them at risk of being stepped on or run over by suitcases.

"I think Embassy Suites needs to take another look at this and review how they keep ducks safe, or use fish like most hotels would use," Shields said.
Barring drunk psychopaths, you would think that tame ducks living in a hotel lobby would be far safer than wild ducks living in a pond.
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post #7 of 55
9/24/07 at 11:31am
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But was he wearing sandals?
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post #8 of 55
9/24/07 at 11:32am
Crocs, probably.
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post #9 of 55
9/24/07 at 11:36am
And duck's are so cute. Especially with a nice rosemary orange sauce.
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post #10 of 55
9/24/07 at 11:41am
2 years in prison? Come on...
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post #11 of 55
9/24/07 at 11:43am
I have to agree that the prison sentence is kind of harsh. I think a creep like this would benefit more from counseling and/or community service (say working under close supervision at the animal shelter).
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post #12 of 55
9/24/07 at 11:44am
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fuck it. shoot him in the face.
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post #13 of 55
9/24/07 at 11:52am
They should get that guy from the "giant hand" thread to rip this douche's head off and see how he likes it.
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post #14 of 55
9/24/07 at 11:54am
I heard he mistook the duck for Jenna Jameson, and tried to get his freak on...
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post #15 of 55
9/24/07 at 11:57am
Guy deserves anything that comes his way because of this - unless it's gigantic fame and wealth. No need to argue about what a fair punishment is. Fuck him.
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post #16 of 55
9/24/07 at 12:00pm
I just don't understand what a jail sentence is going to do for a guy who's clearly so deranged as to do this, and in front of people no less. Fuck that he's drunk. But jail? Come on. Zooey makes a point here, counseling, community service, shit, even a stay at a mental institution would be better.
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post #17 of 55
9/24/07 at 12:02pm
i'm surprised at the prison sentence -- most states have pretty lame penalties ('stiff' fines) and only hand out prison sentences for multiple offenders.

anyone interested in getting involved in animal rights without the horrible aftertaste of PETA can check out the Animal Legal Defense Fund aldf.org-- they are a non-profit that helps increase awareness of cases against animal abusers and try to lobby for larger penalties for cases of cruelty. My wife and I have been supporting them for a couple of years -- they only hit us up for donations twice a year and never call. They send out mailings and have an email list that alerts members to letter writing campaigns. They provide direct addresses to judges and prosecutors.

The website has lots of good info, too. And if, like us, you get too upset to work directly with injured or homeless animals (we've tried volunteering at shelters but get too emotionally involved) this is a great way to help without succumbing to severe depression. haha
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post #18 of 55
9/24/07 at 12:02pm
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Originally Posted by Alex Riviello
I just don't understand what a jail sentence is going to do for a guy who's clearly so deranged as to do this, and in front of people no less. Fuck that he's drunk. But jail? Come on. Zooey makes a point here, counseling, community service, shit, even a stay at a mental institution would be better.
The thing is, they can put him through all that while they have him in jail. Lock him up and put him in counseling.
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post #19 of 55
9/24/07 at 12:07pm
I'd like to think that some good can still come out of this. We just need to be a little creative.

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post #20 of 55
9/24/07 at 12:10pm
"Suspicion of felony animal cruelty"?!? The duck had a head before this guy came along. Now it doesn't. I don't see how he's suspected of doing it.
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post #21 of 55
9/24/07 at 12:15pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson
"Suspicion of felony animal cruelty"?!? The duck had a head before this guy came along. Now it doesn't. I don't see how he's suspected of doing it.
He hasn't been convicted yet, so they always use language like that.
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post #22 of 55
9/24/07 at 12:16pm
The guy's crazy, but it's all those onlookers that just stands right there, doing nothing that pisses me off. The same ones that allows a guy to beat the shit out of his wife in a subway.
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post #23 of 55
9/24/07 at 12:16pm
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Originally Posted by DaveB
I'd like to think that some good can still come out of this. We just need to be a little creative.
The combination of "headinjurytheater" and "duck bunny dear lord" usually deters me from opening such a link at work.
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post #24 of 55
9/24/07 at 12:24pm
It's safe for work.
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post #25 of 55
9/24/07 at 12:27pm
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Originally Posted by Nick Nunziata
fuck it. shoot him in the face.
Or stuff him in some bread and feed him to the ducks.
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post #26 of 55
9/24/07 at 12:49pm
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Originally Posted by Jason P. Thompson
Or stuff him in some bread and feed him to the ducks.
Death by ducking.

This guy is one step away from serial killing.
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post #27 of 55
9/24/07 at 12:56pm
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Originally Posted by Alex Riviello
I just don't understand what a jail sentence is going to do for a guy who's clearly so deranged as to do this, and in front of people no less. Fuck that he's drunk. But jail? Come on. Zooey makes a point here, counseling, community service, shit, even a stay at a mental institution would be better.
Exactly. Everyone knows prison is just gradutate school for drug dealers and duck killers.
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post #28 of 55
9/24/07 at 1:00pm
I honestly don't know if I'm strong enough to rip a ducks head clean off, even if I were so inclined. It's probably the fear of failure that keeps me from even attempting, especially in a crowded hotel lobby.
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post #29 of 55
9/24/07 at 1:03pm
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Originally Posted by billylove
This guy is one step away from serial killing.
Won't get very far in the "mass murder" checklist if this is MO. Not very sneaky about it, is he?

I'd say, in addition to be a useless douchebag, he's probably an aspiring rock & roll frontman. It's so HEAVY METAL!

To quote a rep from the waterfowl community: "Despicable".
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post #30 of 55
9/24/07 at 1:05pm
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Originally Posted by Martin Savage
The guy's crazy, but it's all those onlookers that just stands right there, doing nothing that pisses me off. The same ones that allows a guy to beat the shit out of his wife in a subway.
You'd think there would be a security guard in the lobby too. What was he thinking when the guy grabbed the duck, "I want to see where he's going with this"?
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post #31 of 55
9/24/07 at 1:34pm
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Originally Posted by englebert
What was he thinking when the guy grabbed the duck, "I want to see where he's going with this"?
Pretty much.

"Is he really gonna rip his hea- Yep, he just did it. Well, I don't think I should mess around a guy who just ripped the head of the duck. I don't see that everyday. That was at least entertaining."
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post #32 of 55
9/24/07 at 1:48pm
I don't really see why anyone feels a two year prison sentence is that harsh. I mean he ripped the duck's head off with his hands. What will it do for the guy? Who fucking cares? I mean the guy was joking afterwards. He wasn't just mad at the duck. What do you think counseling could do for a guy like that? I don't know of any community service that would help either. I wouldn't think of putting this guy around animals or children, and I don't think picking up trash on the interstate is going to make him a new man. I know Michael Vick's actions were worse because of the number of animals involved, but he could get a maximum of five years. I think this kind of thing is much worse than a lot of offenses that get far greater sentences. I mean it is doubtful he will get the maximum sentence anyway unless he has previous legal problems. It wouldn't hurt my feelings to see this guy thrown in the clink for two years.
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post #33 of 55
9/24/07 at 1:51pm
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Originally Posted by Soul Ahn Ice
Being drunk has never made me want to maim animals. This guy obviously has issues. Despicable.
Exactly. Fuck being drunk - if anything, being drunk probably brought out sick behavior that was under the surface the whole time. Fucking monster.
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post #34 of 55
9/24/07 at 3:01pm
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Originally Posted by billylove
This guy is one step away from serial killing.
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post #35 of 55
9/24/07 at 3:02pm
Oh, I think he's a threat to the community. Anyone sick enough to do something like that is probably completely capable of so many wonderful things. I wonder if he has a history of bedwetting and arson, too?

I just would rather see him in counseling/giving surly stray dogs flea dips than sitting in prison. And, yes, I know he could do both, but I think the punishment of having to either avoid or interact with his friends and family after this awful act is much, much better.
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post #36 of 55
9/24/07 at 3:08pm
2 steps away from serial killing, actually.

The 3 warning signs for a serial killer are-

1. Bed Wetting.
2. Likes to set fires.
3. Likes to torture animals.

I'm only 2 out of 3! Whew!
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post #37 of 55
9/24/07 at 3:12pm
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Originally Posted by billylove
Death by ducking.
Nah, a term is prison is enough punishment for the decapitation of a duck.

As long as after he gets released he gets the bill.
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post #38 of 55
9/24/07 at 3:17pm
I still think prison is the way to go here. Outside rehabilitation would be like water off a decapitated duck's back to this guy.
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post #39 of 55
9/24/07 at 3:18pm
You know, I have yet to hear fair consideration for the fact that he might have been really hungry.
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post #40 of 55
9/24/07 at 3:20pm
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Originally Posted by Alex Riviello
2 steps away from serial killing, actually.

The 3 warning signs for a serial killer are-

1. Bed Wetting.
2. Likes to set fires.
3. Likes to torture animals.

I'm only 2 out of 3! Whew!
The infamous "Macdonald Triad" doesn't apply to the really good serial killers though. They only manifest their psychotic tendencies when around what will eventually be their obsessive fixation, making them substantially harder to catch.

In other words, this guy won't be hard to find out when he pops a hobo's head off in a dark alley for kicks one night.
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post #41 of 55
9/24/07 at 4:20pm
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Originally Posted by Justin Bolivar
Truly?
Truly.

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I think being drunk and doing something admittedly extreme and horrible and a few needles removed from a Miike movie obviously indicates he could potentially be a threat to others and not just living lobby decorations, but I think he's more than a beer from trying the same stunt on a child or something. I'd think keeping him out of prison and rather in something like what you're talking about is akin to preventative sociopath maintenance.
He got drunk and tore the head off a duck. That's sick and it clearly (for me) crosses the line between potential and actual threat. He has no problem, when his inhibitions are lowered, doing serious harm to an innocent creature that's smaller and weaker to him and making a joke about it. I want a guy like that strapped to a chair and forced to watch Charlotte's Web, Babe, Old Yeller, etc. alternating with PETA films until he's crying like a baby. Then I want him locked in a room with these pipe-hitting bastards -



They've got their mallets. They're ready to rock and roll.
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post #42 of 55
9/24/07 at 4:23pm
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Originally Posted by Death Surge
The infamous "Macdonald Triad" doesn't apply to the really good serial killers though. They only manifest their psychotic tendencies when around what will eventually be their obsessive fixation, making them substantially harder to catch.

In other words, this guy won't be hard to find out when he pops a hobo's head off in a dark alley for kicks one night.
I hope you're not making the assumption that someone who rips off a duck's head in public with witnesses will every be a really good serial killer. I'd say 3-5 people tops.
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post #43 of 55
9/24/07 at 4:26pm
Sorry if it was unclear. This guy doesn't stand a chance of being a good serial killer. One homeless guy, caught in the act, tops.
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post #44 of 55
9/24/07 at 5:02pm
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Originally Posted by MissZooey
I want a guy like that strapped to a chair and forced to watch Charlotte's Web, Babe, Old Yeller, etc. alternating with PETA films until he's crying like a baby.
I have a feeling that showing someone who took pleasure in killing an animal a bunch of films with dead animals in them would have the opposite effect.
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post #45 of 55
9/24/07 at 5:05pm
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Originally Posted by The LD
You know, I have yet to hear fair consideration for the fact that he might have been really hungry.
Hey man, I saw an Asian girl eating a live scorpion online. Where's the outrage on that one?
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post #46 of 55
9/24/07 at 5:09pm
I think a two year prison sentence is pretty harsh considering that the poultry most people enjoy isn't killed any more humanely.

The only difference is that we have people we pay to slaughter animals and then wrap them in plastic so that when it's delivered to us we don't make the association with that cute little duck or turkey. This guy was just removing the middleman and chowing down.
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post #47 of 55
9/24/07 at 5:49pm
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Werewolf Girl again.
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post #48 of 55
9/24/07 at 6:28pm
And when Huey, Dewey and Louie need a break, Daffy's ready to get medieval on this guy.

"One of theeth dayth, motherfucker... ONE OF THEETH DAYTH!!!"



And also - You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to MissZooey again.
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post #49 of 55
9/24/07 at 7:57pm
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Originally Posted by Werewolf Girl
I think a two year prison sentence is pretty harsh considering that the poultry most people enjoy isn't killed any more humanely.

The only difference is that we have people we pay to slaughter animals and then wrap them in plastic so that when it's delivered to us we don't make the association with that cute little duck or turkey. This guy was just removing the middleman and chowing down.

I would say you're probably wrong. Having your neck pulled and your head wrenched from you body is a bit more gruesome and cruel than even what most workers in the meat industry do on the killing floor.

This is horrid because there was no purpose for it other than pure savagery.
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post #50 of 55
9/24/07 at 8:15pm
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Originally Posted by C.Swicegood
I would say you're probably wrong. Having your neck pulled and your head wrenched from you body is a bit more gruesome and cruel than even what most workers in the meat industry do on the killing floor.

This is horrid because there was no purpose for it other than pure savagery.
What's the purpose of killing poultry besides that they taste good?
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