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Significantly more distressing than actual fishing.

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WASHINGTON - Army snipers hunting insurgents in Iraq were under orders to "bait" their targets with suspicious materials, such as detonation cords, and then kill whoever picked up the items, according to the defense attorney for a soldier accused of planting evidence on an Iraqi he killed. Gary Myers, an attorney for Sgt. Evan Vela, said Monday his client had acted "pursuant to orders."
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"We believe that our client has done nothing more than he was instructed to do by superiors," Myers said in a telephone interview.

Myers and Vela's father, Curtis Carnahan of Idaho Falls, Idaho, said in separate interviews that sworn statements and testimony in the cases of two other accused Ranger snipers indicate that the Army has a classified program that encourages snipers to "bait" potential targets and then kill whoever takes the bait.

The Army on Monday declined to confirm such a program exists.

"To prevent the enemy from learning about our tactics, techniques and training procedures, we don't discuss specific methods targeting enemy combatants," said Paul Boyce, an Army spokesman.

Boyce also said there are no classified programs that authorize the murder of Iraqi civilians or the use of "drop weapons" to make killings appeared to be legally justified, which is what Vela and the two other snipers are accused of doing.

The transcript of a court hearing for two of the three accused snipers makes several references to the existence of a classified "baiting" program but provides few details of how it works. A copy of the transcript was provided to The Associated Press by Vela's father.

The Washington Post, which first reported the existence of the "baiting" program, cited the sworn statement of Capt. Matthew P. Didier, the leader of a Ranger sniper scout platoon.

"Baiting is putting an object out there that we know they will use, with the intention of destroying the enemy," Didier said in the statement. "Basically, we would put an item out there and watch it. If someone found the item, picked it up and attempted to leave with the item, we would engage the individual as I saw this as a sign they would use the item against U.S. forces."

The Post said the program was devised by the Army's Asymmetric Warfare Group, which advises commanders on more effective methods in today's unconventional conflicts, including ways to combat roadside bombs.

Within months of the "baiting" program's introduction, three snipers in Didier's platoon were charged with murder for allegedly using those items and others to make shootings seem legitimate, according to the Post.
Hey guys, go pick up that dollar over there. Nothing bad will happen, I promise...
post #2 of 7
And, with that, the Keep Iraq Clean! organization closed its doors forever.
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Well, look at it this way; Now you get the usual "Iraqis hating you for generations" + disgruntled army snipers with a huge chip on their shoulders for when they get out of prison.

What could go wrong?
post #4 of 7
The Iraqi adaptation of Sanford and Son will be a lot different than the Redd Foxx version, I'm betting.
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What the fuck is this, Stalingrad? It seems completely indiscriminate. It's not like the insurgents are in short supply of materials. If you're in any way involved in something shady and you see a blasting cap laying on the sidewalk, picking it up is the last thing you're gonna do.
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Originally Posted by stelios
What the fuck is this, Stalingrad? It seems completely indiscriminate. It's not like the insurgents are in short supply of materials. If you're in any way involved in something shady and you see a blasting cap laying on the sidewalk, picking it up is the last thing you're gonna do.
Shh, nonsense.
What they should do is camouflage the explosives as bottles of drinking water, medicine and toys.
The number of insurgents killed would skyrocket!
Mission accomplished!
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Originally Posted by Mr.Crowley
Shh, nonsense.
What they should do is camouflage the explosives as bottles of drinking water, medicine and toys.
The number of insurgents killed would skyrocket!
Mission accomplished!
That is so crazy that it might just work!

It worked for the Soviets in Afghanistan after all.
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