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post #1 of 152
Thread Starter 
Quote:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/27/sex....ap/index.html

Still photos of the younger girl, fully clothed, have been widely broadcast.

Boruchowitz said the photos of the younger girl were being released because her life could be in danger.

"She could still be in this situation and (be) abused currently as we speak," Boruchowitz said.

"The easiest way to explain it is if you can imagine the absolute worst things that can happen to a little girl at the hands of an adult male, that has happened and beyond," he said of the video. "It is by far the most heinous and horrible thing that you can possibly imagine on there."
And this from a Las Vegas cop.

Jesus.

Seriously, that quote makes my skin crawl.

I keep reading it in the same tone Owen Wilson's Armageddon character says the line "Okay, so the scariest environment imaginable. Thanks. That's all you gotta say, scariest environment imaginable." to Billy Bob's.
post #2 of 152
Yeah, this has been on the local news for a while. Figured it was only a matter of time until it hit the other news outlets around the globe. It's absolutely disgusting.
post #3 of 152
I heard a little about this from a co-worker. I miss most news since I sleep during the day...

So, it's like...a 4-5 yr old girl, right?
post #4 of 152
They should create a magic hole that you can punch, and your fist will always come out the other side, smack into the face of whomever on planet earth deserves a smashed face most. If I had that machine, someone in Las Vegas would be getting fucked up as we speak.
post #5 of 152
It's a shame that monster's face isn't clearer on the tape. It would give them a better chance to figure out who he is and what happened to the girl.
post #6 of 152
I almost punched my monitor reading this.
post #7 of 152
Whoever this guy is, he has to be seeing all this coverage. I worry what he might be panicked into doing.
post #8 of 152
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson
Whoever this guy is, he has to be seeing all this coverage. I worry what he might be panicked into doing.
I think it's more likely that he's experiencing disturbing degrees of pleasure from all the attention.
post #9 of 152
This girl is going to be completely fucked up for the rest of her life.
post #10 of 152
Thread Starter 
It's the line "that has happened and beyond" that really makes me reel. And then he tops it with "the most heinous and horrible thing that you can possibly imagine".

Quotes like that start making me think whoever this guy is went all Naked Lunch or Videodrome on the film.
post #11 of 152
I can't (ie: won't) even click the link.
post #12 of 152
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8
I can't (ie: won't) even click the link.

What he said. I just can't imagine how sick somebody would have to be to do something like this to an innocent child. I imagine all of the people around the world that cannot conceive, but would nuture and care for a child if they had the opportunity.... and then contrast that to people like this scumbag.

Stark reminder of how unfair the world is. And to think of all of the cases that we don't know about......

Hard not to think that the human race isn't fucked beyond all hope sometimes.
post #13 of 152
Sickening how hopeless the situation is for the girl, even if she survives.
As a father to a young girl, this story destroyed me.
Knowing that things like this happen in the world is so depressing its almost paralyzing.
post #14 of 152
They found her:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070929/...ex_tape_search


Quote:
LAS VEGAS - A young girl who was seen being sexually assaulted in a homemade videotape has been found and is safe with family members and sheriff's officials, an investigator said Friday.
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"We found the victim. She's safe," Nye County sheriff's Detective David Boruchowitz told The Associated Press.

Widespread media accounts of the case led to the crucial tip that helped find the girl, Boruchowitz said. He did not provide details of her identity, where she lives or how she was located.

Earlier in the day, authorities put the name "Madison" to the haunting face of the young girl authorities believe was 4 or 5 years old when she was raped and sexually assaulted in the video.

Authorities named fugitive Chester Arthur Stiles as a "person of interest." Stiles, 37, whose last known address was Las Vegas, is also wanted on an unrelated state warrant on a charge of lewdness with a minor younger than 14 and a federal charge of being a fugitive, said Nye County Sheriff Tony DeMeo.

Investigators determined that the video of the attack was recorded over the video of an 11-year-old girl taped in October 2005 through a window of a Pahrump home, DeMeo said.

Officials identified that girl, now 13, after releasing photos taken from the video and matched to records of a "peeping Tom" report at her home. No one was found outside the girl's home when deputies arrived, and the girl wasn't assaulted, authorities said.

A 26-year-old Pahrump man, Darren Tuck, surrendered the tape to Nye County sheriff's investigators Sept. 8 after another man reported seeing it, Boruchowitz said.

Tuck was arrested on charges of promoting child pornography and possession of child pornography, both felonies, and released without bail pending an appearance Nov. 26 in Pahrump Justice Court. The top charge carries a possible sentence of up to life in prison.

Tuck told detectives he found the videotape in the desert outside Pahrump more than five months ago. Investigators don't think Tuck made the tape, Boruchowitz said.

Tuck's lawyer, Thomas Gibson of Pahrump, has characterized Tuck as an innocent middleman who should be credited for giving the tape to authorities.
post #15 of 152
http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=7144762

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Earlier Friday, authorities put the name "Madison" to the haunting face of the young girl and named fugitive Chester Arthur Stiles as a "person of interest" in the case. It is now known that Stiles is the little girl's father.
post #16 of 152
Nevermind
post #17 of 152
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Tuck's lawyer, Thomas Gibson of Pahrump, has characterized Tuck as an innocent middleman who should be credited for giving the tape to authorities.
after uploading it to Limewire and jerking off to it several times.

Sorry, I just pulled a Nancy Grace. Meaning I'm saying he's guilty until proven guilty.
post #18 of 152
Same story as Amphibatron's link, but with more to the story:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070929/...ex_tape_search

How the fuck could the adults in this kid's life not know that anything was going on?
post #19 of 152
You know what's great? Is that they'll catch the guy and he'll go to jail for his lewd act charge rather then this and be out in a year or less.
post #20 of 152
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Originally Posted by LisaNewYork
How the fuck could the adults in this kid's life not know that anything was going on?
Of course they fucking knew. They probably participated too.
post #21 of 152
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Originally Posted by LisaNewYork
Same story as Amphibatron's link, but with more to the story:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070929/...ex_tape_search
Jesus Christ. She was three years old in the video. Obviously she's going to be irreparably damaged by this, but since the video was made in early 2005 I was really assuming she was dead.
post #22 of 152
So it's not her father?
post #23 of 152
I'm more shocked there's a town called 'Pahrump'...sounds more like a word in a conversation between Christopher Robin and Winnie the Pooh on how flatulence sounds...
post #24 of 152
I am hard pressed to imagine why anyone gives a single shit about this.
post #25 of 152
Because humans, for all our claims to the contrary, enjoy continually being repulsed by just how depraved another human can be?

Because there's a certain enjoyment derived from hearing about someone doing something horrible and then going "They should be punched/set on fire/have a dozen barbed crochet needles jammed in their peehole/eaten by rats/etc etc etc"?

Because it's there?
post #26 of 152
Devin donates to NAMBLA. He likes their complimentary address labels.
post #27 of 152
There really are molesters named Chester?
post #28 of 152
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Originally Posted by nekkerbee
Devin donates to NAMBLA. He likes their complimentary address labels.
Try zinging me when you've learned the difference between complimentary and complementary.
post #29 of 152
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Originally Posted by devincf
Try zinging me when you've learned the difference between complimentary and complementary.
A little helpful hand for all.
Complimentary
Complementary
post #30 of 152
Main Entry: com·pli·men·ta·ry
Pronunciation: "käm-pl&-'men-t(&-)rE
Function: adjective
1 a : expressing or containing a compliment <a complimentary remark> b : FAVORABLE <the novel received complimentary reviews>
2 : given free as a courtesy or favor <complimentary tickets>
post #31 of 152
I'm glad she's safe. That's all. Anyone who actually gets gratification out of these stories, or who assumes the people posting here do, a big thorny FUCK YOU just came your way.
post #32 of 152
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Originally Posted by Master Shake
Because there's a certain enjoyment derived from hearing about someone doing something horrible and then going "They should be punched/set on fire/have a dozen barbed crochet needles jammed in their peehole/eaten by rats/etc etc etc"?
For truth.

So she's 13? Are there any countdown timers up yet? Only 5 years, zomg.
post #33 of 152
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Originally Posted by devincf
I am hard pressed to imagine why anyone gives a single shit about this.
You're hard pressed to understand why someone would be concerned about a 4-year-old girl that has been videotaped being horribly raped and is possibly still being abused? You're hard pressed to understand why someone would be relieved that she is found safe, or are you hard pressed to understand why someone would post about it? Wait, you're just trolling. Nevermind.

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Originally Posted by Master shake
Because humans, for all our claims to the contrary, enjoy continually being repulsed by just how depraved another human can be?

Because there's a certain enjoyment derived from hearing about someone doing something horrible and then going "They should be punched/set on fire/have a dozen barbed crochet needles jammed in their peehole/eaten by rats/etc etc etc"?

Because it's there?
Because one day if/when your son or daughter goes missing and the police find a videotape of him/her being molested, and they need help to identify the child, I'm going to yawn, roll my eyes, and change the channel as quick as my trigger fingers allows. Fuck your kid(Hey, someone already did), why should I care?
post #34 of 152
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Originally Posted by devincf
I am hard pressed to imagine why anyone gives a single shit about this.

Please explain.
post #35 of 152
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Originally Posted by Amphibatron
Because one day if/when your son or daughter goes missing and the police find a videotape of him/her being molested, and they need help to identify the child, I'm going to yawn, roll my eyes, and change the channel as quick as my trigger fingers allows. Fuck your kid(Hey, someone already did), why should I care?
Uh, did you get all quick with the trigger on the quote button, because your response has nothing to do with what I wrote.
post #36 of 152
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Originally Posted by Master Shake
Uh, did you get all quick with the trigger on the quote button, because your response has nothing to do with what I wrote.
You implied that the only reason people are interested in this story is that they either enjoy reading about the depravity of their fellow man or they get off on condemning and slinging death threats toward the suspect.

Nowhere in your narrow-minded viewpoint did it occur to you that people may feel actual disgust at the story and genuine concern for the little girl in question. This concern propels us to track the ongoing situation to find out if there are any leads to the girls whereabouts. Because, uh, some of us are capable of feeling empathy for this poor girl (outside of just morbid curiosity) and hope beyond hope that she is safely recovered. Thankfully, she was.

Since you were incapable of seeing it from that point of view, I simply pointed out what it would be like if it were your child and no one showed any interest and simply tuned out.
post #37 of 152
Why are you acting like I said "who cares, she had it coming?" As far as I know, I haven't weighed in on the topic at hand one bit (My two cents: that's disgusting, that poor girl, the guy's a dirty stumpfucker, yay they found her, now let's move on).

All I did was answer a simple question with a simple answer. Devin asked a question: "why do people care?" I answered "because humans like to hear bad news, especially bad news that doesn't involve them."
post #38 of 152
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Originally Posted by Master Shake

All I did was answer a simple question with a simple answer. Devin asked a question: "why do people care?" I answered "because humans like to hear bad news, especially bad news that doesn't involve them."

Again, you are implying that everyone who has posted in this thread, besides you and Devin, have done so because they secretly enjoy reading about 4-year-old girls having the worst things imaginable done to them. Who are you to presume to know why I clicked on this thread and posted an update to the original story?
post #39 of 152
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Originally Posted by Amphibatron
Again, you are implying that everyone who has posted in this thread, besides you and Devin, have done so because they secretly enjoy reading about 4-year-old girls having the worst things imaginable done to them.
So wait, because I talked about mankind's natural inclination towards reading bad news, I'm calling everyone in this thread perverts and pedophiles? Are you fucking kidding me?

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Who are you to presume to know why I clicked on this thread and posted an update to the original story?
Who am I? Someone who, since the girl is thankfully safe and since you seem to enjoy building straw men, is done with the thread.
post #40 of 152
Did you write this?

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Because humans, for all our claims to the contrary, enjoy continually being repulsed by just how depraved another human can be?

Because there's a certain enjoyment derived from hearing about someone doing something horrible and then going "They should be punched/set on fire/have a dozen barbed crochet needles jammed in their peehole/eaten by rats/etc etc etc"?
What am I supposed to take from that? That I get some sort of enjoyment out this particular story?
post #41 of 152
Well, you ARE still posting in this thread, aren't you?

Quit throwing your righteous indignation at me and save it for the culprit when the police get him. Either way, it's over.
post #42 of 152
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Originally Posted by Master Shake
Well, you ARE still posting in this thread, aren't you?
Yeah, replying to your idiotic posts, unfortunately.
post #43 of 152
Wow, Devin finally crossed the line from asshole to sociopath.
post #44 of 152
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Originally Posted by Big Jim Slade
Wow, Devin finally crossed the line from asshole to sociopath.
It wasnt much of a line to begin with, at least in his case.
post #45 of 152
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nekkerbee
Main Entry: com·pli·men·ta·ry
Pronunciation: "käm-pl&-'men-t(&-)rE
Function: adjective
1 a : expressing or containing a compliment <a complimentary remark> b : FAVORABLE <the novel received complimentary reviews>
2 : given free as a courtesy or favor <complimentary tickets>
You'll never get Devin to admit he was wrong, but: "ooooh, SNAP!"
post #46 of 152
post #47 of 152
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Originally Posted by C.Swicegood
Please explain.
I have to imagine there are more interesting/illuminating/important things you can occupy your mind with, rather than fuming about some pedo all day. Don't you have a job or something?

As an aside, my character in "Skate" was named Chester the Molester, so I get a slightest bit of a chuckle from this. Not too much. A bit.
post #48 of 152
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Originally Posted by Cogs of Fate
I have to imagine there are more interesting/illuminating/important things you can occupy your mind with, rather than fuming about some pedo all day.

I guess I could concentrate more on ripping on "Heroes"....
post #49 of 152
I don't know why anyone cares about this because it's not news. It's not a news story, period. It's an opportunity for people to prove that they 'care', when in reality this happens every single day to some other little girl or little boy and not one person who is 'outraged' in this thread or any other forum on the internet or water cooler in any office does anything about it. How many of you are volunteering at rape crisis centers, working with abused children, getting involved with counseling for survivors of abuse and incest? I'll bet NONE.

This is 'If it bleeds it leads' taken to the extreme - I could almost see the newsworthiness of this story in the local community, but who the fuck cares in Los Angeles or Denver or Stockholm? It's a purely prurient news story, one that in no way has an impact on you or your life or the well-being of anyone you know, that doesn't effect global politics or the fate of nations. And the prurience in this kind of story is, I think, the worst kind, the kind where you get to sit back and hate someone else and feel better about yourself. Why? I don't know - maybe because you properly despise this guy, or you feel worse for this girl than the woman in the next cubicle does. Maybe it's just because you're proud that you haven't raped any little girls yet. But it's probably just another opportunity for bland middle Americans to display to everyone their sense of outrage and horror and how wounded their innocence is today by this monstrous act... which is probably happening down the block, or in their own home under their nose.

Spare me your false and theatrical outrage. Spare me your public displays of ANYTHING. If you really gave a shit about young girls being raped, you could be out in your community doing something. But if you just want to flap your gums or your typing fingers about what a tragedy this is and how awful it makes you feel, shut the fuck up. People who go on like this are the real sociopaths, the people who have no inner life so they have to display one extra large for their neighbors and family to see. They give such a huge shit when it's a girl on television and we're all supposed to care, but when the time comes to shut their fucking mouths and step into the world of pain and suffering and HELP OUT, well, they're supposed to be at Applebees tonight and then there's the lawn to be mown, oh and I promised the wife we'd go pick some apples...

Fuck you.
post #50 of 152
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Originally Posted by devincf
I don't know why anyone cares about this because it's not news. It's not a news story, period. It's an opportunity for people to prove that they 'care', when in reality this happens every single day to some other little girl or little boy and not one person who is 'outraged' in this thread or any other forum on the internet or water cooler in any office does anything about it. How many of you are volunteering at rape crisis centers, working with abused children, getting involved with counseling for survivors of abuse and incest? I'll bet NONE.

This is 'If it bleeds it leads' taken to the extreme - I could almost see the newsworthiness of this story in the local community, but who the fuck cares in Los Angeles or Denver or Stockholm? It's a purely prurient news story, one that in no way has an impact on you or your life or the well-being of anyone you know, that doesn't effect global politics or the fate of nations. And the prurience in this kind of story is, I think, the worst kind, the kind where you get to sit back and hate someone else and feel better about yourself. Why? I don't know - maybe because you properly despise this guy, or you feel worse for this girl than the woman in the next cubicle does. Maybe it's just because you're proud that you haven't raped any little girls yet. But it's probably just another opportunity for bland middle Americans to display to everyone their sense of outrage and horror and how wounded their innocence is today by this monstrous act... which is probably happening down the block, or in their own home under their nose.

Spare me your false and theatrical outrage. Spare me your public displays of ANYTHING. If you really gave a shit about young girls being raped, you could be out in your community doing something. But if you just want to flap your gums or your typing fingers about what a tragedy this is and how awful it makes you feel, shut the fuck up. People who go on like this are the real sociopaths, the people who have no inner life so they have to display one extra large for their neighbors and family to see. They give such a huge shit when it's a girl on television and we're all supposed to care, but when the time comes to shut their fucking mouths and step into the world of pain and suffering and HELP OUT, well, they're supposed to be at Applebees tonight and then there's the lawn to be mown, oh and I promised the wife we'd go pick some apples...

Fuck you.
First thing, stop preaching from whatever fucking pedestal you somehow managed to climb on, Devin, because had you actually made your case the first time you posted your opinion here, you wouldnt have been universally labelled as an insane, borderline psycho a-hole....you just went and raised hell with one line of pure cynic venom, and went on your merry way.
as for your comments, I have worked with victims of these type of crimes, during my highschool years, and during my journalism studies, I happened to work and meet up with the local Crime Investigation Bureau on the black market of child pornography in my country.
Stories like this help raise awareness and find victims of this horrible trade, you pompus ass...for every 10000000 bland middle american who reads that story for kicks, there can be someone with real information that could spare an innocent child suffering or even save a life.
While im not going to debate the reasons for interest these kind of news generate in the average reader, they do help to combat these type of crimes and rasise public awareness on the subject, unlike just being an asshole and throw the story away because you've come to terms with yourself and your view of the world.
Lastly, fuck YOU, Devin, for suddenly turning into being judgmental of everyone here just because you had a jerkish outburst and proved your utter stupidity and failure to act like a decent human being.
I come here to post my opinion and follow other people's opinions as well, but you just acted like the worst kind of bully: the kind that believes to be superior to people he doesnt even know, and spits venom first only to try and save face moments later.
I'll give you the fact that you are entitled to having an opinion, but you pretty much misused that right on your own, by being a pompous, judgemental windbag...hope you find the decency to even acknowledge what a screw up you just commited and be man enough to own up.

Oh, and consult a dictionary first before trying to criticize another man's replies to your comments.
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