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post #51 of 152
10/1/07 at 4:54am
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Originally Posted by devincf
I don't know why anyone cares about this because it's not news. It's not a news story, period. It's an opportunity for people to prove that they 'care', when in reality this happens every single day to some other little girl or little boy and not one person who is 'outraged' in this thread or any other forum on the internet or water cooler in any office does anything about it. How many of you are volunteering at rape crisis centers, working with abused children, getting involved with counseling for survivors of abuse incest? I'll bet NONE.
Is this a message board? Are stories posted here so that the members can comment on them? Are there some stories posted on this board that we aren't allowed to comment on? Apparently so.

Nick's dog died? Why post about it? How does that affect me or anyone else on the boards? That thread garnered 130 posts of well-wishing and condolences. I'm sure he appreciated every single one of them. I'm also sure that there weren't many people that clicked out of that thread and declared a jihad against canine death or lost a minute of sleep that night because of Gretchen's passing. But they posted their sentiments anyway. Nick, stop wasting our fucking time by fishing for sympathy. I'm sorry for your loss and all, but there are movies that I need to bitch about. You know, important shit. Oh wait, that thread was posted in the Chewer's Catch-All. A forum devoted to the everyday problems and happenings of member's lives. I guess it's cool if you post about your dog passing in there. Hey, maybe someone should start a separate forum so we can comment on general news stories that are making the rounds. I'm not sure what you would call it, though.

You know what really doesn't affect my personal life in any way shape or form? The behind the scenes workings of the film industry. I love movies, but I could love them just as equally without following the films throughout their production. So why the fuck am I wasting my time on this board commenting on these movies? Why are any of us? Why is anyone concerning themselves with film production when there are horrible atrocities being committed all over the world? Why aren't you spending every single waking moment of your life trying to make this world a better fucking place? I'm glad that it's so normal to get worked up over the casting of some stupid comic book movie around here, but if we show any amount of disgust at a story like this we are just stroking our own egos.

So, yes, the next time some horrible story about child rape pops up on the boards I'll be sure to ignore it and head over to comment on whatever ridiculously unimportant things you are railing against in the next Devin's Advocate or over in the Chewer's Catch-All.

In other words, shut the fuck up, or shut the boards down.
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post #52 of 152
10/1/07 at 6:06am
Jesus Christ, after reading that post I'd be tempted to shut them down if I could. You really don't see the difference between Nick's dog dying - ie, an event that affected someone you know, even in a cyber sense - versus what happened to this girl - ie, an event that affected NO ONE YOU HAVE EVER MET OR SPOKEN TO?

And if you want to compare your interest in film with your interest in little girls being raped...
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post #53 of 152
10/1/07 at 6:15am
So if I don't know someone I'm not allowed to comment about a story involving them?

Way to deflect. You know damn well what point I was making above. There are a ton of news stories posted on this board. Not many of them affect me in any way shape or form, but that doesn't mean I (or any other poster)shouldn't be allowed to comment on them without being accused of doing so to inflate our egos.
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post #54 of 152
10/1/07 at 6:44am
I'd just like to take this moment to express my outrage at every single horrible thing that may be happening right now.
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post #55 of 152
10/1/07 at 10:09am
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Originally Posted by devincf
I don't know why anyone cares about this because it's not news. It's not a news story, period. It's an opportunity for people to prove that they 'care', when in reality this happens every single day to some other little girl or little boy and not one person who is 'outraged' in this thread or any other forum on the internet or water cooler in any office does anything about it. How many of you are volunteering at rape crisis centers, working with abused children, getting involved with counseling for survivors of abuse and incest? I'll bet NONE.

This is 'If it bleeds it leads' taken to the extreme - I could almost see the newsworthiness of this story in the local community, but who the fuck cares in Los Angeles or Denver or Stockholm? It's a purely prurient news story, one that in no way has an impact on you or your life or the well-being of anyone you know, that doesn't effect global politics or the fate of nations. And the prurience in this kind of story is, I think, the worst kind, the kind where you get to sit back and hate someone else and feel better about yourself. Why? I don't know - maybe because you properly despise this guy, or you feel worse for this girl than the woman in the next cubicle does. Maybe it's just because you're proud that you haven't raped any little girls yet. But it's probably just another opportunity for bland middle Americans to display to everyone their sense of outrage and horror and how wounded their innocence is today by this monstrous act... which is probably happening down the block, or in their own home under their nose.

Spare me your false and theatrical outrage. Spare me your public displays of ANYTHING. If you really gave a shit about young girls being raped, you could be out in your community doing something. But if you just want to flap your gums or your typing fingers about what a tragedy this is and how awful it makes you feel, shut the fuck up. People who go on like this are the real sociopaths, the people who have no inner life so they have to display one extra large for their neighbors and family to see. They give such a huge shit when it's a girl on television and we're all supposed to care, but when the time comes to shut their fucking mouths and step into the world of pain and suffering and HELP OUT, well, they're supposed to be at Applebees tonight and then there's the lawn to be mown, oh and I promised the wife we'd go pick some apples...

Fuck you.
You know, Devin, your schtick is starting to grow old. I don't understand this need to come on this message board and rip it's posters to shreds over the most trivial issues. It's always Olive Garden this, plebians that.... guess what, Devin? I don't really think that you are any better than the rest of cookie cutter America that you love to rip on so badly. I agree with you more often than not on what you have to say, but the constant berating and talking down to the throng is getting tired.

Honestly, I have enjoyed these boards much more than I have been frustrated by them and I really respect your love and enthusiasm for movies and film as an artform. And I admit it, I am highly entertained by cranky Devin, but the insults towards posters, in general, and as an entity has become a bit too abusive and elitist.

You ask why anyone would "give a shit" about this story enough to post about it? But Amphibatron's post is still valid, why would anyone give a shit enough about a movie to post about it? This message board is here for us to discuss all sorts of issues, be it movies, current events or Diva's ass. What about that bothers you so much? Especially when a big reason alot of people do come here is BECAUSE OF YOU? Why do you feel the need to alienate that?

I care about this story because I have a young daughter and can empathize with how horrible it must be for a child to be treated in this manner. Does it happen all of the time? Yes. Is this case special? No. But it is story that brings issues like this to the surface, so we all have a right to weigh in with how we feel about the situation.
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post #56 of 152
10/1/07 at 10:18am
How many innocent people are dead in Iraq and Afghanistan so far?

Nah, I don't really wanna know. I just want to tell the person who does I don't give a fuck.
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post #57 of 152
10/1/07 at 11:45am
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Originally Posted by C.Swicegood
You ask why anyone would "give a shit" about this story enough to post about it? But Amphibatron's post is still valid, why would anyone give a shit enough about a movie to post about it? This message board is here for us to discuss all sorts of issues, be it movies, current events or Diva's ass. What about that bothers you so much? Especially when a big reason alot of people do come here is BECAUSE OF YOU? Why do you feel the need to alienate that?

I care about this story because I have a young daughter and can empathize with how horrible it must be for a child to be treated in this manner. Does it happen all of the time? Yes. Is this case special? No. But it is story that brings issues like this to the surface, so we all have a right to weigh in with how we feel about the situation.
You've misread what Devin is saying. It's not that we shouldn't care about this story, it's that we don't care enough. Only he is aware of how many horrible stories like this are happening everyday, so why should he bother registering his outrage at this particular news item? You see, Devin cares more than we do. In fact, he cares so much that he can't be bothered to express how much he cares. Except that, in this particular instance, he felt it necessary to express his disgust at the fact that anyone would be disgusted by this story, therefore educating us "bland middle Americans" in how common a thing suffering and pain is in this world. I'm sure it put a great burden on him. This public display of outrage over our public displays of outrage has surely exposed a side of Devin that he's tried to keep under wraps. I mean, you'd think he was trying to inflate his own ego with his own longwinded, theatrically outraged post, but that would be a bit hypocritical, and I doubt that was his intent.
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post #58 of 152
10/1/07 at 12:03pm
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Originally Posted by Amphibatron
You've misread what Devin is saying. It's not that we shouldn't care about this story, it's that we don't care enough. Only he is aware of how many horrible stories like this are happening everyday, so why should he bother registering his outrage at this particular news item? You see, Devin cares more than we do. In fact, he cares so much that he can't be bothered to express how much he cares.
Oh, no, I'm sure you've got it wrong. I'm sure Devin was down at the rape crisis center working the hotlines, and then busy at CPS assisting in play therapy for abused children, that's why he only had time for a one line post the first time around.
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post #59 of 152
10/1/07 at 12:22pm
What Devin is saying is that if you're going to post your anger about it, back your words up and go out and do something about it. Also, if you're going to comment, contribute something to the discussion. Post a link to a website showing ways you can help, new details that have emerged in the case, or something leading to an actual conversation rather than just an empty "This story made me mad!"
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post #60 of 152
10/1/07 at 12:24pm
No, what Devin did was post his typical one-line bit of snark to stir things up, only coming back with something substantial after he'd pissed everybody off.

And just because I don't live my life like Gandhi doesn't remove my right to have a conscience when I see something like this happen.
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post #61 of 152
10/1/07 at 12:28pm
Devin's right on this one. The message is harsh, but I agree with it. The news in our country, the way it's packaged for us, is such a joke. Turns everything into entertainment. In this case, horror entertainment. Sexual abuse is a horrible problem in this country. This story hits you, you become outraged. Sexual abuse is wrong! Now onto the story about the woman who strangled herself by accident at the airport. I guess you have to ask yourself what is the purpose of these stories. Why is this story the focus when there is so many other horrifying things happening in the world? I'm not beyond it. I get suckered too. But, Devin's right - the majority of this shit is designed to hit our brains and quickly fade along with the ad the accompanied the article. Maybe it will get people to take action - that's a good thing. Maybe it'll prompt people to do something. Probably not, though.
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post #62 of 152
10/1/07 at 12:30pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson
And just because I don't live my life like Gandhi doesn't remove my right to have a conscience when I see something like this happen.
Please live in a constant state of outrage because this shit is happening every day.

Also, you watch Kid Nation, which is crap.
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post #63 of 152
10/1/07 at 12:33pm
This story was a focus because, rather than this going on in secret with zero chance of helping the victim, there was a chance here to stop what was happening before it escalated into something worse. And also because there was a face to it -- only the most heartless cynical bastard could look at that little girl's face in the video and think, "Well, yeah, too bad, but she's just one of many."

People always react more strongly to something when there's a face put to it rather than a bunch of numbers. And being upset about this case doesn't mean we're a-okay with all the other ones.
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post #64 of 152
10/1/07 at 12:34pm
No, Belethediel, I wasn't down at the rape crisis center. But I'm also not on the internet beating my chest about the horror of this.

And Amphibatron, I'm not trying to tell you to stop making uninteresting posts on anything. Please add your boring two cents on any topic that you like. Conversation is conversation, even when it's stultifying. But if you're going to get all mad at me, at least bother to read the fucking words I am typing. I am saying it shouldn't be an international headline, and it has been. It's like the missing Maddy English girl story: complete and total non-news. Broadcasting this girl's face to the good people of Puerto Rico isn't going to help catch the guy who did this to her, or to find her, or to stop little girls from getting raped. That's bullshit, and you know it, and you use it as an excuse for your prurient interest in non-news human misery.

You made snarky comments in the Burma thread, since you're one of those people who ruins threads with shitty, repetitive jokes without a moment's regard although you fly off the handle when someone makes an on-topic statement. In that thread you proved your gross ignorance of what is news and what it is I'm talking about. And proved your own fucked up mentality - some little white girl gets raped and it's HORROR while thousands are killed in a massacre and it's time for you to get your digs in on me. Why are you not teariing out your hair and gnashing your teeth at this massive, massive tragedy? Probably because you're a phony, through and through.

So yeah, this is not news. And yeah, the people going out of their way to 'care' about it are putting on a show for everybody else. I've been saying this for years, since the death of Princess Diana, which at least had more newsworthiness than a single, Maury Povich-flavored moment of this story.

Go on with your conspicuous caring. Follow every detail of this story breathlessly. Never understand why. Whatever works for you.
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post #65 of 152
10/1/07 at 12:35pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson
People always react more strongly to something when there's a face put to it rather than a bunch of numbers. And being upset about this case doesn't mean we're a-okay with all the other ones.
You don't really think about the other ones, though. A story like this wakes us up. And then we go back to sleep. It's a cynical way to process it, I know. But I think it's accurate.

You watch Kid Nation.
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post #66 of 152
10/1/07 at 12:36pm
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Originally Posted by Kevin Matchstick
Also, you watch Kid Nation, which is crap.
And I'm sure you've got nothing but Masterpiece Theater playing on a loop at your place.
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post #67 of 152
10/1/07 at 12:37pm
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Originally Posted by Kevin Matchstick
You don't really think about the other ones, though. A story like this wakes us up. And then we go back to sleep. It's a cynical way to process it, I know. But I think it's accurate.
It's 100% accurate. It's managed outrage - you get mad at one case that is photogenic, and then that takes all the outrage out of you. We're not even being woken up, we're being distracted from real horrible things - genocides and oppression - by these sorts of news stories. It's a terrific sign of how fucked up we are.
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post #68 of 152
10/1/07 at 12:39pm
Yeah, but to question why it would upset any decent person when they read about it is ludicrous and intellectually dishonest. Unless you really are a sociopath.
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post #69 of 152
10/1/07 at 1:01pm
Whenever some kid is raped/found dead/a pedophile arrested and a thread is posted about it on the Something Awful boards, it will inevitably degenerate into an adolescent revenge-wankfest, with every nerd contributing on the horrible Jason-like way he would like to eliminate the pedophile in question. This annoys me to no end, so I am inclined to slightly agree with Devin. Shit like this happens, man. Some kids are probably getting raped right now.

Remember the "pedophile party" in Holland? No? Well, I live next to them (the country, not the pedophiles). One of their agenda points was that sex with children should be legal, but rape shouldn't. Of course, these assholes got nowhere but there was a huge fuss around them so people could get good 'n outraged. Same here: look at the freak show.
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post #70 of 152
10/1/07 at 1:10pm
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Originally Posted by devincf
It's 100% accurate. It's managed outrage - you get mad at one case that is photogenic, and then that takes all the outrage out of you. We're not even being woken up, we're being distracted from real horrible things - genocides and oppression - by these sorts of news stories. It's a terrific sign of how fucked up we are.
So are you saying that we should just never get outraged, because if we're not perpetually outraged about everything, and our outrage priority list doesn't match yours, then we couldn't possibly be sincere in our outrage?

It's exhausting to be outraged at everything bad that happens in the world all the time. So most people either rotate between one outrage and the next (child abuse! murder! war! genocide! the environment!) or just pick one and stick with it. No one can be outraged about everything all the time. It just doesn't work.

Yes, I think that if a news story about child abuse gets your ire up, you should do something constructive about solving the problem instead of just posting on a message board about it. Although, of course, increasing awareness of problems isn't exactly doing nothing.

Then again, there are only so many hours in day. I can only do so many things to help my fellow man. So I try to choose the ones where I am most likely to make a difference, and focus on those. For me, that happens to be issues regarding sustainable agriculture and animal use in third world countries, because the starvation of millions outrages me, along with health and welfare of animals in the USA.

Does that mean I can't care about child abuse, or genocide, or any other issue, just because I focus my personal energies on other things to which my skills are better suited?
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post #71 of 152
10/1/07 at 1:43pm
The thing is, he (Devin) is assuming that none of us do anything other than post our mock outrage on these boards while doing nothing. I am sure that there are at least a few of us that contribute to our environment. I don't post about what I do because I don't do it to get a pat on the back, I do it because I feel it's a way of giving back.

My wife and I used to (for three years) volunteer at a theraputic riding center for children with muscular defects and other maladies.

We are very active in our local MS chapter, albeit, her mother suffers from the disease, so there is a personal aspect to why we volunteer also.

We work with the local food bank every season going door to door to collect non perishable items for families during the holiday season.

My wife donates her time as a nurse to child protective services in our area (So that one isn't me personally, but still).

So, we aren't all sitting here eating McDonalds and watching reality TV.
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post #72 of 152
10/1/07 at 1:56pm
Sounds like you do a lot of positive things for your community, which should be commended.

I must admit that I'm the type of person who gets outraged over news stories like this and then goes back to my normal carefree life and does nothing to help those in need. It has gotten so bad that I now eat Applebee's inside of a cubicle. That's how far my head is buried in the sand.
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post #73 of 152
10/1/07 at 2:08pm
Devin, do you mind schooling me on which threads I can post in during my visits to Nick's message board that wouldn't draw your ire? I feel this would be helpful in my future visits to the site.

Or should I just leave?
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post #74 of 152
10/1/07 at 2:09pm
I must seriously be out of the loop... I know very little about what's going on with this little girl, and I've read a ton more about what's going on in Iraq and Burma and the such.

I think my lack of mainstream media is paying off!!!
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post #75 of 152
10/1/07 at 2:44pm
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Originally Posted by BobClark
Yeah, but to question why it would upset any decent person when they read about it is ludicrous and intellectually dishonest. Unless you really are a sociopath.
Bobclark's lucid, incisive point was in danger of being lost.
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post #76 of 152
10/1/07 at 2:45pm
I don't think it's all that incisive. Getting upset and CARING are different things. Is it sociopathic for me to pass by so many homeless people in a day?

I can see a homeless person, think 'That is terrible' and then go on with my day without having to prove to everyone how much I feel by going on and on about how terrible it was to see a homeless person.
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post #77 of 152
10/1/07 at 2:47pm
For the record, I do think threads like these can potentially lead to valuable conversation. Here's something yt wrote in the thread on Burma:

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I just read that other thread and I have to say, for once I agree with Devin. I don't read or watch regular news and I don't consider those kinds of stories real news. They're like conscience porn - stories in which it's easy to draw conclusions that you, watching the news story, are better than the horrible people described in the news story without you (meaning the general "you" not people necessarily reading this, if anyone is) having to do any real complex thinking on the issue or with any constructive road toward helping to do something about it. And there is a prurient factor to stories like this involving victimized children, a la JonBenet. There is never any examination of the complexities that go into the victimization of children here and around the world, no attempt to address the complete inability of our criminal justice system to deal with sexual abuse of children, and a totally diametrically opposed message in the corporate entertainment, media and retail environments to sexualize children "because it sells."
There's a way to use this case as a jumping-off point to talk about a more substantial issue - one that actually does have an impact that reaches beyond the particulars of this case.

But, unfortunately, this barely ever happens. Instead, the conversation remains obsessed with the single case, and the participants become focused on their revenge scenarios. This thread has actually improved due to Devin's dismissal of it. It's forced people to talk about what's newsworthy and how we each process individual cases like this. I think it would be even more productive, however, if the conversation turned to what yt was talking about - the sexualization of children that influenced this crime, how it's being treated by the law, and how it's being treated by the press.

Is anyone willing to prove Devin wrong about the usefulness of these threads, or are you going to continue to obsess about how he's limiting your conversation or (even better) start the execution fantasies?
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post #78 of 152
10/1/07 at 2:48pm
I think Devin's point is that you can be upset over stuff like this, but to post about it on a messageboard or to publicly exclaim your distaste at the news is just an attempt to aggrandize yourself. You're supposed to be repulsed by stuff like this. It's not something you need to talk about unless you want to call attention to yourself.
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post #79 of 152
10/1/07 at 2:50pm
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Originally Posted by Alan "Nordling" Cerny
It's not something you need to talk about unless you want to call attention to yourself.
Which is why, I suppose, we have yet to hear from fabfunk in this thread.
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post #80 of 152
10/1/07 at 2:54pm
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Originally Posted by Alan "Nordling" Cerny
I think Devin's point is that you can be upset over stuff like this, but to post about it on a messageboard or to publicly exclaim your distaste at the news is just an attempt to aggrandize yourself. You're supposed to be repulsed by stuff like this. It's not something you need to talk about unless you want to call attention to yourself.

Should the story have been allowed to be posted in the first place? Or should the thread have been locked? I really can't see what is wrong with someone saying they found this story upsetting to read.
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post #81 of 152
10/1/07 at 2:56pm
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Originally Posted by devincf
I don't think it's all that incisive. Getting upset and CARING are different things. Is it sociopathic for me to pass by so many homeless people in a day?

I can see a homeless person, think 'That is terrible' and then go on with my day without having to prove to everyone how much I feel by going on and on about how terrible it was to see a homeless person.
You believe the Chud users' collective outrage to be disproportionate to the amount of caring or effort they put into helping people in their daily lives. Let's forget for a moment that you likely don't have the foggiest idea what the posters in this thread do on a daily basis, I suppose that's a fair observation to make about human nature.

But it's not a point you made with your initial post.

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I think Devin's point is that you can be upset over stuff like this, but to post about it on a messageboard or to publicly exclaim your distaste at the news is just an attempt to aggrandize yourself. You're supposed to be repulsed by stuff like this. It's not something you need to talk about unless you want to call attention to yourself.
This is a news forum! Going overboard with horror and repugnance may wander into self-aggrandizement, but c'mon. A little reminder of how depraved humanity can be (and I'm talking about one on one, person to person evil) is worth posting about now and again.
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post #82 of 152
10/1/07 at 2:57pm
It would be more important if someone posted in all seriousness, "Awesome! I can't wait to kidnap a kid!" At least then you'd know who the freak was. If you feel repulsed by a little girl being kidnapped and raped, congratulations! You're normal!
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post #83 of 152
10/1/07 at 3:39pm
It's a message board. People post their thoughts and opinions. If we're going to cull the obvious, then the first positive and negative comment in a film thread should be it, because all anyone after that is doing is posting a variation on "I liked it" or "I didn't like it".

And again, the people who bemoan that threads don't go anywhere constructive don't do anything to steer those threads in a useful direction, they just come in and shit on them or remind us of how above it all they are. You want better threads? Write better posts.
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post #84 of 152
10/1/07 at 3:52pm
I think between this thread, Dellamorte's thread and Nick's thread I'm just about done with this place. I'm a huge fan of the site, and I enjoy reading the output from quite a few of the regulars around here, but this shit is getting to be too much.
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post #85 of 152
10/1/07 at 3:57pm
:::Hugs!

And Devin's post did steer this discussion into a useful place, Poxy. And it's become and interesting thread. Well, until people get all defensive about it and drown their sorrows in Kid Nation and the like.
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post #86 of 152
10/1/07 at 4:09pm
I may be reading it wrong (foreigner and all that), but is Devin saying that stories like this shouldn't be reported? That sounds a bit weird when discussing a case where the girl was found and likely saved from further abuse, or at least given the necessary therapy, BECAUSE of the news story.

So, yeah. WTF?
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post #87 of 152
10/1/07 at 4:17pm
Well, what is the use of a story like this? It did help in the fact that the girl was able to be tracked down, but otherwise, it's a distraction.

Okay, if there's a missing girl out there and they plaster her face on TV, I'll watch it, because I might help contribute to finding her. But this hand-wrenching over something that you 99% likely aren't going to be able to help is just out there to make yourself look good.
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post #88 of 152
10/1/07 at 4:31pm
Thing is, this thread was about 25 posts long. And a couple of those were simply updates to the story. It was a blip. If you didn't agree with what was being discussed, it wasn't like it was intruding into your life.
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post #89 of 152
10/1/07 at 4:34pm
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Originally Posted by Alan "Nordling" Cerny
Well, what is the use of a story like this? It did help in the fact that the girl was able to be tracked down, but otherwise, it's a distraction.
How many stories posted on this board have any use whatsoever outside of them being a distraction while you are at work or just perusing online? How many of those stories have you posted an opinion on? How many of those opinions were actually able to effect a positive or negative outcome to those stories?

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Okay, if there's a missing girl out there and they plaster her face on TV, I'll watch it, because I might help contribute to finding her. But this hand-wrenching over something that you 99% likely aren't going to be able to help is just out there to make yourself look good.
How many of the people posting in the Burma thread are planning on heading over there to do anything about it? How many are presently trying to help that situation in any way they can? Or are people just expressing their feelings about it?
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post #90 of 152
10/1/07 at 5:01pm
Missing/murder/abused white girl stories aren't news.

I'm not going to speculate on why people follow things like the Madeline McCann and the Natalee Holloway case or this rape case, but I can say they're wasting their time.

I suspect most of them just get off on being scared and outraged all the time.
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post #91 of 152
10/1/07 at 5:09pm
Definietly. If this was a black girl I'd make more time for the story. A Latino? Of course. An Asian girl? I don't know, they're pretty privileged. Maybe if it was one of the darker skinned Asian-types like Filipino then I'd be outraged.

I'd be most upset if this happened to a little Inuit girl. They are the most adorable combination of age, race, and gender. Don't believe me? Take a look:



If anyone ever tries to force her to have sex on film I will be very upset.
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post #92 of 152
10/1/07 at 5:10pm
It's essentially voyeurism in place of journalism. While it may not seem different to some people, what's going on in Burma is newsworthy, regardless of how Burmese you may or may not be. That's a tragedy, or whatever you want to call it, on a national scale, and it could have a direct, albeit minor, bearing on global politics. That's the sort of story we should be paying attention to.

Stories about random little girls being raped are tragic, but they don't affect anything. They're just there to spark temporary outrage, because we like being outraged. We like to be angry and upset when what we're angry and upset about is as far removed from us as the moon, basically. It's an easy emotional fix.
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post #93 of 152
10/1/07 at 5:11pm
Forrest Taft will find the fucker and drink a gallon of gasoline just to... you know.
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post #94 of 152
10/1/07 at 5:12pm
But who says I, or anyone else, is obsessively following this story? I saw the original story posted online. I read it and cringed. The same as anyone would. I saw where the girl was found and posted an update in this thread. That's pretty much it. Every reply after I posted that update was a defense against Devin's or Master Shake's accusations that the only reason anyone would post in this thread is to feel good about themselves. Why is anyone posting in the Burma thread? Are they rallying a team of Chewers that are going to fly over to do something about it? Or are they simply discussing that news story?
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post #95 of 152
10/1/07 at 5:15pm
Besides, I thought what happened in Vegas stayed in Vegas.
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post #96 of 152
10/1/07 at 5:22pm
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Originally Posted by Brad Millette
Besides, I thought what happened in Vegas stayed in Vegas.
oh god the lulz
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post #97 of 152
10/1/07 at 5:48pm
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Originally Posted by Amphibatron
Are they rallying a team of Chewers that are going to fly over to do something about it?
Hey, that's not a bad idea. Werbal mobilized The Chewers to defeat Mecha-Devin. After that, the Burmese Junta should be a piece of cake.

"To me, my Temos."
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post #98 of 152
10/1/07 at 9:04pm
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I can see a homeless person, think 'That is terrible' and then go on with my day without having to prove to everyone how much I feel by going on and on about how terrible it was to see a homeless person.
Conversely, you could not give a shit, and go on with your day not giving a shit, without having to prove to everyone how above giving a shit you are. Yet this very act makes up what, 75% of all your posts?

You. Are. A. Troll.
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post #99 of 152
10/1/07 at 9:14pm
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If anyone ever tries to force her to have sex on film I will be very upset.
Can I at least fuck the puppy?
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post #100 of 152
10/1/07 at 9:27pm
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Originally Posted by Brad Millette
It's essentially voyeurism in place of journalism. While it may not seem different to some people, what's going on in Burma is newsworthy, regardless of how Burmese you may or may not be. That's a tragedy, or whatever you want to call it, on a national scale, and it could have a direct, albeit minor, bearing on global politics. That's the sort of story we should be paying attention to.

Stories about random little girls being raped are tragic, but they don't affect anything. They're just there to spark temporary outrage, because we like being outraged. We like to be angry and upset when what we're angry and upset about is as far removed from us as the moon, basically. It's an easy emotional fix.
Stories about random monks being shot doesn't affect anything either. Burmese politics effects nothing outside of Burma. What is a story about democracy in Burma being stifled going to create except outrage among fans of democracy? Do you actually expect any more than a few people to get off their asses and do something meaningful? Furthermore, even if people want to help, what can actually be done that will affect the outcome?

I'm not a fan of message board vigilantes.
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