Originally Posted by Justin Clark
What puts most people off Alien 3 tends to be the fact that it's not a horror or action movie in the strictest sense, but a drama.
No, what puts most people off Alien 3 tends to be the fact that it used lazy storytelling as a device, and unlike it's predecessors, never gave us anything new in regards to story or characters
. As far as the Xenomorph itself, the film not only sloppily ignored it's two predecessors, it actually gave us a lesser version of the creature. To fail on all three fronts like that is just plain lazy. At least Ressurection tried.
And if by "drama" you mean that there're a bunch of bald British thespians running around in the dark on low tech sets, well then you've go a strange definition of the word.
The first two films could be classified as dramas as well, especially Aliens. The fact that the Academy nominated Sigourney Weaver for Best Actress that year in a sci fi flick over more serious "dramas" tells you all you need to know. For all the whining going on in this thread about the gunplay in Aliens, people seem to forget how long it was before any action took place in the movie and how much character interaction there was between the 3 main set pieces. Cameron takes his time to set up Ripley's character and her dilemma. That's
Alien 3, on the other hand, gives to ryhme or reason to most of the creature's attacks. It just goes around randomly picking the guys off one by one. Something that we'd already seen done in the first film -- and done more creatively and better.
Darker/nihilistic doesn't necessarily equate to a good film.
But more importantly, Cameron added his own touches while still respecting Ridley Scott's vision. That's one of the reasons the film was so popular. Alien 3, does just the opposite. It takes away familiar elements of the first two films (or completely ignores them) but adds nothing to the world beyond a few simple aesthetics that don't enhance the film. It's almost like whomever made the flick hadn't even seen the first two and thought they they were reinventing the wheel by making it dark and gothic.
Again, I like a lot of aspects of Alien 3. But it does nothing it's first two predecessors (and in some instances, Resurrection) hadn't already done better. I mean in plot, action, and (most importantly) character.
And if you guys are going to completely overlook the facehugger/egg lack of consistency/logic in Alien 3, then you can't go off complaining about AVP's 3 minute chestbursters. Both films are guilty of ignoring the rules set down by their predecessors.