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post #301 of 335

I watch and own Polanski films and the Drafthouse is close to where I live, so yeah, I'll still go if there's something there I want to see. I'm not going to hold anything against someone who wants to protest the company by ending their patronage, but as you said, Devin Faraci is a nobody to the world at large. We here happen to have a greater degree of awareness of him than most, but for me, the Drafthouse is and has always been just a better theater chain than most, and nothing more than that. 

post #302 of 335

I'm not sure what the world at large knowing or not knowing has to do with anything. People excuse way larger sins from way larger corporations, but that doesn't make their offenses any less egregious. If the questions is simply, "can the Drafthouse continue to exist in some form?", then yeah, it probably can. But everything about its identity is up for grabs. The survivability of the organization perhaps does not hinge on its niche appeal, but if that niche appeal takes a hit, you better believe it'll have consequences for how the company operates.

post #303 of 335
The Alamo has long since outgrown it's nice appeal though. My family and friends up in Lubbock Texas love having a Drafthouse up there. I guarantee you none of them have the slightest idea of any of this going on. The impact this will have on the business side of things will be minimal. Even the more nich market, Mondo, won't suffer. Demand is so high for those fucking posters that most buyers will be hoping for a boycott so it's easier to buy the prints.
post #304 of 335

League has lost alot of customers because of this (Alamo and Mondo), but not really on a large scale.  It is the community minded people who are aware of what's going on and boycotting.  And for League that may be bad enough.

 

He reputation is taking the biggest hit.  

post #305 of 335

Again, no one is saying that money will not continue to be made off the Drafthouse brands, but if League steps down, the impact on the company will certainly not be "minimal". He didn't hire a crisis management team for kicks, he knows he's in trouble. What if the allegations against Devin (and League) aren't over yet?

post #306 of 335

In the long run, if what's out there is all there is, then League will get through it and he'll probably try to make amends w/ charitable gestures and revised anti-harassment policies or whatever. I don't know much about League, but if one of the reasons people are so emotional about this is that he acted like a mouth-piece for social issues and whatnot, then I  also have to believe that one of the lessons here is that building a *personal brand* on those ideas is a sure way to fuck yourself when you do something that, consciously or not, somehow violates those ideas. 

post #307 of 335

People are "emotional" about it because he secretly kept the sexual assaulter on his payroll and tried to keep another of his victims from coming forward. I mean, why people are angry at him is not some mystifying thing. The social justice League stuff is just icing on his shit cake.

post #308 of 335

I didn't say it was a mystery, but I do get that my demeanor is coming off as callous b/c I am not responding to this any more than any other similar situation. Others have a more pronounced reaction to it, but my problem isn't one of empathy, but a matter of having had an assload of the drama concerning certain people involved and/or formerly involved with this community. 

post #309 of 335

They're in the position that Devin himself was in last year, which is that an enormous part of the Alamo brand was progressive social ideas about film and film appreciation, and this makes it seem like they were artificial and skin deep, much more a brand than earnestly held beliefs. That's pretty damaging to the twitter-verse portion of their audience, which is definitely the loudest section.

 

So yeah, they'll probably just have to eat shit online in this case, a lot right now and then more in perpetuity ('hey, remember when you guys kept that sexual assault guy on the payroll for like a year in secret?') But that'll be the extent of it. If I had to guess.

 

So is Faraci done for good now? I don't know how he ever comes back now. The only way I could imagine it would be if he straight up shifted into anti-PC trolling, like some fat internet Dennis Miller.

post #310 of 335

Playing tomorrow as part of "Terror Tuesday" at the San Francisco Alamo: DISTURBING BEHAVIOR

 

They're also still showing PATTI CAKE$ but only at 12:35 PM.

post #311 of 335
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Originally Posted by Arjen Rudd View Post
 

They're in the position that Devin himself was in last year, which is that an enormous part of the Alamo brand was progressive social ideas about film and film appreciation, and this makes it seem like they were artificial and skin deep, much more a brand than earnestly held beliefs. That's pretty damaging to the twitter-verse portion of their audience, which is definitely the loudest section.

 

So yeah, they'll probably just have to eat shit online in this case, a lot right now and then more in perpetuity ('hey, remember when you guys kept that sexual assault guy on the payroll for like a year in secret?') But that'll be the extent of it. If I had to guess.

 

So is Faraci done for good now? I don't know how he ever comes back now. The only way I could imagine it would be if he straight up shifted into anti-PC trolling, like some fat internet Dennis Miller.

 

Faraci is in his 40's isn't he? As far as being "the voice of online film criticism", yes, I would wager that he's done with that part of his career. I'm sure he'll pop up somewhere down the line with some sort of creative endeavor. 

post #312 of 335

I might suggest an extended stay in a Buddhist monastery to get in touch with his newfound spirituality. A few decades should do the trick.

post #313 of 335

He just put up a lengthy review of Little Buddha on Letterboxd. Isn't that cute?

post #314 of 335

For real?  I suppose we can look forward to future reviews of Kundun and Seven Years in Tibet.

post #315 of 335
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Originally Posted by Arjen Rudd View Post
 

They're in the position that Devin himself was in last year, which is that an enormous part of the Alamo brand was progressive social ideas about film and film appreciation, and this makes it seem like they were artificial and skin deep, much more a brand than earnestly held beliefs. That's pretty damaging to the twitter-verse portion of their audience, which is definitely the loudest section.

 

So yeah, they'll probably just have to eat shit online in this case, a lot right now and then more in perpetuity ('hey, remember when you guys kept that sexual assault guy on the payroll for like a year in secret?') But that'll be the extent of it. If I had to guess.

 

So is Faraci done for good now? I don't know how he ever comes back now. The only way I could imagine it would be if he straight up shifted into anti-PC trolling, like some fat internet Dennis Miller.

 

I would think he's done to be honest. Thing is, if he actually did leave the first time around and didn't stay on their payroll, chances are people would've been a bit more accepting of him coming back in some form. I think everyone expected him to return at some point and in some capacity, but this whole thing is fucked because what, it took a month before League had him on the payroll again?

 

He can always just start pitching to other outlets if he wants but I can't see any major publication or site picking him up unless he starts writing as FilmCritThor or something. 

post #316 of 335
League leaving the company by Nov 1?

https://mobile.twitter.com/SeanJ8/status/911316733134295040

(jokes about League's definition of stepping down not being the conventionally accepted one...)
post #317 of 335

Legit?

 

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 BREAKING: Tim League has informed members of the Alamo Drafthouse staff he’s leaving the company by November 1.
post #318 of 335

League replied below saying that it's not true

post #319 of 335
Why would he ever take that bait?

Just ignore it.
post #320 of 335

Yeah League said it wasn't true, then that guy who broke the story started crowing about the Faraci situation and then took the highroad by deleting his tweet and claiming that the trolls were out in force. 

post #321 of 335
post #322 of 335
Apparently the secret film they sprung on all the guests at Fantastic Fest today was an unreleased Ed Wood directed porno. The lack of self awareness boggles the mind.
post #323 of 335
Sounds interesting, but if it's as stultifying as Orgy of the Dead, then I'd have to give it a pass.
post #324 of 335
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Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post

Apparently the secret film they sprung on all the guests at Fantastic Fest today was an unreleased Ed Wood directed porno. The lack of self awareness boggles the mind.

 

Yup.

 

https://twitter.com/NakatomiTim/status/912090959516717056

post #325 of 335

WOOF

post #326 of 335

LOL

post #327 of 335
Here's an official transcript of the "conversations" that are being had:

"This whole thing with Devin, bro. Seriously."

"I know, right?"

"Bro."

"Seriously."

*they finish their thirteenth craft beers and go back to looking at their phones*
post #328 of 335

prophetic

 

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post #329 of 335
Somehow I think the idea that most people (specifically men, but some women too, I imagine) would be ready or willing to have that conversation at a venue for films is a tad unrealistic. That's not to say that it shouldn't happen, but I'll hazard a guess and say that the overall thought is "Well it ain't me, so I'm going to keep on keeping on."
post #330 of 335
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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post
 

prophetic

 

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League continues to write the book on how NOT to run a business.

post #331 of 335
Tim League is treating the Alamo Drafthouse like a metamorphical Alamo.

I think the battle is lost.

General Santa Anna's trades will pick this one up in the morning.
post #332 of 335
This does seem insane. They're just so incredibly full of shit.
post #333 of 335

It's like this festival is taking place in a vacuum.

 

Quote:
 They asked us to remain seated after the film while they brought a "special guest" into the room. Then they brought out an actor from the film to recreate the tension from one of the film's most unsettling moments. It was enough to just have him enter the room. We all froze and watched him pace and stare us down. And then the actor in full character started throwing chairs, and then glasses at people. And he didn't stop there. As a pregnant woman, who has also witnessed very real violence by men, I did find myself becoming increasingly nervous/protective of myself and baby, and the people I was with. We were being asked to just sit and let this happen, and maybe even laugh. More importantly, when it first started to escalate I thought "this situation requires an audience to trust that this festival is looking out for its audience, and won't let this stunt get out of hand". But as I listened to some of the men in the audience nervously laugh at the tension, and watched the actor cross more boundaries and become more authentically destructive/violent for the sake of a bit, I was stunned that the fest thought they could ask this of an audience right now.
post #334 of 335
post #335 of 335
Every once in a while, I'm kind of curious what's going on with Devin and google his name for news. So saw some of this and found this thread. I'm wondering, what are the general thoughts about Devin? I've been surprised he seems to have kept a low profile for like a year, then I see he was after all on the payroll. But is the thought that he should never again work anywhere? I'm not trying to justify what he did, but it wasn't work related right?
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