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post #1 of 18
10/8/07 at 8:43pm
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from nin.com:

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Originally Posted by Trent Reznor
Hello everyone. I've waited a LONG time to be able to make the
following announcement: as of right now Nine Inch Nails is a totally
free agent, free of any recording contract with any label. I have
been under recording contracts for 18 years and have watched the
business radically mutate from one thing to something inherently very
different and it gives me great pleasure to be able to finally have a
direct relationship with the audience as I see fit and appropriate.
Look for some announcements in the near future regarding 2008.
Exciting times, indeed.
Trent's been pretty outspoken about labels ripping off fans recently (ie CDs costing too much, and feeling pressured to make "collectible" import singles), and I've found the viral marketing he's been doing fascinating. After the release of the new remix album (presumably the final contractual obligation), I'm very interested to see where he's going with this.
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post #2 of 18
10/8/07 at 8:50pm
Great news! I hope he helps usher in a new business model.
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post #3 of 18
10/8/07 at 10:24pm
I knew he "owed" one more album to Interscope, but I didn't realize a remix album would count. Fantastic.

I'm sure Trent would have given Year Zero away if he could have. He had the album, in full, on nin.com for listening from the get-go. Not to mention he's been giving out the source tracks for those songs on the site for people to remix.

Bands like Radiohead and NIN do great business from touring, I'm not sure how much they even get from labels for album sales, percentage-wise. Probably not a whole hell of a lot. I wouldn't be surprised if Radiohead made more off of their new album than they did with Hail to the Thief.
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post #4 of 18
10/8/07 at 10:32pm
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Originally Posted by Nexus-7

I'm sure Trent would have given Year Zero away if he could have.
I did.
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post #5 of 18
10/8/07 at 11:44pm
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Originally Posted by Nexus-7
I wouldn't be surprised if Radiohead made more off of their new album than they did with Hail to the Thief.
Isn't that the whole point of going outside of the Labels?

For all we know, Trent was released from his contract- he's been badmouthing the label for quite some time, and there's still no concrete date for the remix album. Regardless, it's one more blow against the prehistoric recording industry. Into the tarpits, Rex.
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post #6 of 18
10/9/07 at 12:23am
Hopefully this shall create a trend which shall create the end of corporate music, which shall create the end of successful shitty music that we're told to consume. Even if the movie industry's getting shafted by corporations at least our music will be freed of its shackles.
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post #7 of 18
10/9/07 at 12:36am
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Originally Posted by Nexus-7
I knew he "owed" one more album to Interscope, but I didn't realize a remix album would count. Fantastic.
Doesn't anything that has a unique SKU and run a certain length qualify?

Hence various hits comps and live albums from any given artist over the years.
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post #8 of 18
10/9/07 at 1:35am
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Originally Posted by Ninhead
Isn't that the whole point of going outside of the Labels?
That, and more artistic freedom. Although Radiohead can do pretty much whatever the fuck they want to anyway.
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Originally Posted by Russ Fischer
Doesn't anything that has a unique SKU and run a certain length qualify?

Hence various hits comps and live albums from any given artist over the years.
I didn't know how it worked, honestly. That would explain a ton of "greatest hits" albums though, even when the bands in question only had one or two tracks that got radio/MTV play.
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post #9 of 18
10/9/07 at 2:11am
I'm a huge NIN fan and can't wait to see what Trent minus a label can do, and will gladly pay for it.

I am not a Radiohead fan, but since they let you set the price you pay for their new album, I may sling them a couple of bucks to support that business model. (Since the figures I've read for albums sales on the labels are that for every sale, the band gets, on average, 72 cents. Rest goes to the label for various "expenses". I'd rather pay a couple of bucks and know it goes directly to those who made the music.)
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post #10 of 18
10/9/07 at 3:43am
Good for him. He's been quite vocal about the sorry state of the music industry, especially this last year. With them and Radiohead going label free I'm really hoping we're going to see a shift in the distribution of music. Hell, I might even start buying music other than classical again.
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post #11 of 18
10/9/07 at 6:25am
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Originally Posted by stelios
Good for him. He's been quite vocal about the sorry state of the music industry, especially this last year. With them and Radiohead going label free I'm really hoping we're going to see a shift in the distribution of music. Hell, I might even start buying music other than classical again.
I was actually at the concert in Sydney where he had the rant telling everyone to steal his music. I'm pretty sure he's been quoted previously that he would prefer to sell it off his website for a small fee the moment it was ready.

I try not pirate anything unless I find it prohibitively difficult to track down a copy to purchase. Cheaper prices essentially allows me to listen to more music.
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post #12 of 18
10/9/07 at 9:09pm
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Originally Posted by Tom Roberts
I was actually at the concert in Sydney where he had the rant telling everyone to steal his music. I'm pretty sure he's been quoted previously that he would prefer to sell it off his website for a small fee the moment it was ready.
He also (apparently) leaked a bittorrent of the infamous Broken movie, so rather than high-generation-VHS-dub bootleg copies, fans can now download a pristine DVD rip. Same goes for Closure, which was only commercially available on VHS, but can now be downloaded as a DVD with extra content.
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post #13 of 18
10/9/07 at 9:59pm
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Originally Posted by Big Jim Slade
He also (apparently) leaked a bittorrent of the infamous Broken movie, so rather than high-generation-VHS-dub bootleg copies, fans can now download a pristine DVD rip. Same goes for Closure, which was only commercially available on VHS, but can now be downloaded as a DVD with extra content.
Oh oh, go fuck yourself John Malm!
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post #14 of 18
10/11/07 at 9:57am
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Details of the remix album:

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Originally Posted by Trent Reznor

Here's some information on Y34RZ3R0R3MIX3D.
We are releasing it on Interscope Nov 20th through the traditional retail outlets. There are three different formats:

DIGITAL DOWNLOAD
iTunes, I assume Amazon's MP3 store (I'm the last to know about these things) and maybe others. This should be priced "regular", whatever that now means.
track listing for these:

1. gunshots by computer: saul williams
2. the great destroyer: modwheelmood
3. my violent heart: pirate robot midget
4. the beginning of the end: ladytron
5. survivalism: saul williams
6. capital g: epworth phones
7. vessel: bill laswell
8. the warning: stefan goodchild featuring doudou n’diaye rose
9. meet your master: the faint
10. god given: stephen morris & gillian gilbert
11. me, i’m not: olof dreijer
12. another version of the truth: kronos & enrique gonzalez müller
13. in this twilight: fennesz
14. zero sum: stephen morris & gillian gilbert


VINYL
A nice package with three discs. Good quality vinyl, blah blah blah - really it's just cool. The package is a six-panel gatefold vinyl jacket to match Year Zero along with an insert.
track listing for this configuration:

Side 1
1. gunshots by computer: saul williams
2. the great destroyer: modwheelmood
3. my violent heart: pirate robot midget
4. the beginning of the end: ladytron
5. capital g: epworth phones

Side 2
1. the warning: stefan goodchild featuring doudou n’diaye rose
2. meet your master: the faint
3. god given: stephen morris & gillian gilbert
4. vessel [mix 1]: bill laswell

Side 3
1. capital g: switch
2. me, I’m not: olof dreijer

Side 4
1. the good soldier: sam fog
2. vessel [mix 2]: bill laswell

Side 5
1. capital g: ladytron
2. another version of the truth: kronos & enrique gonzalez müller
3. in this twilight: fennesz
4. zero sum: stephen morris & gillian gilbert

(no Side 6)


PHYSICAL CD / DVD ROM
This costs a bit more than "regular" and contains a CD that has exactly the same track listing as it's DIGITAL DOWNLOAD counterpart (see above). The package is a six-panel digipak to match Year Zero along with an insert. It also contains a DVD ROM (not a movie) that contains every track from Year Zero in multitrack format for you to do with what you please. Mac or PC.

We've included:
Pre-formatted for Apple GarageBand
Pre-formatted for Ableton Live (Mac or PC)
Demo version of Ableton Live (Mac or PC)
Generic WAVE files at 16 bit 44K that can be loaded into any audio editor

I can make this easy for you: if you just want to hear the tracks as cheaply as possible, get it digitally. The highest fidelity will likely be Amazon (through legal means).
If you want something that's aesthetically cool and will enhance any collection, get the vinyl. Trust me, it looks great. The extra tracks are fairly minor embellishments to the whole (and surely someone will upload them instantly).
If you want higher quality tracks legally, a nice package AND a complete multitrack of the whole record, get the physical CD / DVD ROM.

**insert comment from NINSUX: "I thought he said all the multitracks were going to be posted online, now he wants us to PAY for them??"
Relax, friend. One second after this package goes to the manufacturing plant someone will kindly upload those missing multitracks and everything will be OK. If they don't soon enough for your liking, just yell loudly out the window and I'll do it myself.

As for the record itself, I'm very pleased with the way it turned out. Remix records can be disposable garbage (of which I myself have been guilty of to some extent) but this collection feels good to me. I reached out to heroes, friends and strangers. I encouraged those I approached to do anything and insert themselves as much as possible into the track. Some of the stuff that was done earlier led me to choosing other people to balance things out. The Pirate Robot Midget mix is a fan's work - I thought it was great, it filled a need and I asked permission to use it here.
It's always interesting for me to hear my work reinterpreted - I hope it is for you as well.
Upon the release of this, we will be launching the first portion of the new nin.com at
remix.nin.com
We have been working on this quite a while now and I think you'll like it. It will begin as a home for listening to, sorting through, discussing and uploading remixes the community has made. Hopefully it will be as elegant, useful and fun to use as we envision.
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post #15 of 18
10/11/07 at 10:31am
"just yell loudly out the window and i'll do it myself."

independant NIN is gonna be fun, methinks.
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post #16 of 18
10/11/07 at 12:16pm
I really don't care for his new music much but I loved reading that post.
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post #17 of 18
10/11/07 at 12:26pm
I really wish a band I gave a shit about would pioneer in distribution and freedom of expression.
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post #18 of 18
10/11/07 at 4:51pm
Brad, we already mentioned Jamiroquai.
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