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In the Mouth of Madness (1995)

post #1 of 20
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John Carpenter's last good movie.

Pretty good, little thriller. Was the whole movie just the movie version of the book? Or was the whole movie the book? Or was it all "reality"? I figured they would have some twist at the end addressing that but he left it open.
post #2 of 20
I believe the idea is that Sam Neill is a fictional protagonist in a fictional HP Lovecraft-esque novel, and therefore it's his "reality", but not ours. I think when he realizes this he goes mad.

Goddamn, now I'm not sure. Do I have to watch this thing again now?
post #3 of 20
A really great, scary flick. I agree, that the narrative gets twisty towards the end, of whether it's his reality, or the book has come to life, but I just put that to the side and enjoy the flick. Now I feel like watching my dvd.
post #4 of 20
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Originally Posted by Mr.Eko
A really great, scary flick. I agree, that the narrative gets twisty towards the end, of whether it's his reality, or the book has come to life, but I just put that to the side and enjoy the flick. Now I feel like watching my dvd.
But I couldn't forget about it. Which is why I'm really liking this movie now. I gotsta know!

And how about that John Glover? Nice creepy performance even with such small amount of screen time.
post #5 of 20
I love Carpenter, but I find this film to be laughably bad.

"Blue!"

Still own it, though. Damn it.
post #6 of 20
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Sam Neill was pretty bad at being off and on with his performance. The movie did seem to be a little tongue in cheek but also thrilling too. Does the DVD have a Carpenter commentary?
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post #8 of 20
I always remember this movie as being better than it actually is. Then when I watch it, I'm always disappointed.

A lot of good ideas, sort of sloppily thrown together.
post #9 of 20
I almost thought this was about the 1947 In the Mouth of Madness.
post #10 of 20
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Originally Posted by Brendan
Does the DVD have a Carpenter commentary?
Yes. A very special John Carpenter commentary.
post #11 of 20
It had it's moments, definitely not as bad as the Village of the Damned remake or Ghosts of Mars or Escape from L.A. or my least favorite of Carpenter's less than stellar later period, Vampires.

Some nice effects, some nice ideas but it really didn't come together.
post #12 of 20
Tentacle lady!
post #13 of 20
I always enjoy the scene in the movie when Neill's character is sitting down to eat with a co-worker and they are talking about Sutter Cane and his books. They are sitting near a window and you can see the people outside the restaurant start to run away. It takes a few moments before you can figure out that one of Cane's "fans" is holding an ax and making his way towards Neill.

This is really the last decent thing Carpenter directed before he decided to make a living collecting checks from studios to remake his earlier films.
post #14 of 20
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Originally Posted by JPL
I always enjoy the scene in the movie when Neill's character is sitting down to eat with a co-worker and they are talking about Sutter Cane and his books. They are sitting near a window and you can see the people outside the restaurant start to run away. It takes a few moments before you can figure out that one of Cane's "fans" is holding an ax and making his way towards Neill.

This is really the last decent thing Carpenter directed before he decided to make a living collecting checks from studios to remake his earlier films.
The kicker is, it's Neil's boss telling him what an ace private eye he (Neil) is, and he'll find this guy ASAP; meanwhile the guy they are looking for is running around outside with an ax! The maniac then crashes through the window, Neil overpowers him, then still doesn't realize who he is until the Charlton Heston tells him in the next scene.
post #15 of 20

Interesting idea I had the other night:

 

If the Cruise/Cameron/Del Torro/3D ATMOM is dead......

 

 

What if Del Torro were to remake this film?

 

1) It's a movie with a great hook but definite room for improvement.

 

2) It's a chance for Del Torro to make an accessible horror film where he could let his Lovecraftian imagination run wild.

 

3) It would cost a fraction of ATMOM.

 

4) He could use it to test the appetite for Lovecraftian Horror and perhaps use it as a 'show reel' to sell the studios on ATMOM.

 

 

What do you guys think?

post #16 of 20

This movie was a blast, I finally saw it a year or two ago. The old lady dominatrix at the hotel was a hoot, and the creatures at the end capped it off nicely.

 

I remember eyeing the VHS box at the video rental store about a hundred times, since I liked Sam Neill and Escape From New York, but I'd always end up picking something else. Wish I could go back in time and say to myself "Just rent it, you pussy!".
 

post #17 of 20

Oct 15 a blu-ray is coming....

post #18 of 20
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Originally Posted by Dr Harford View Post

Interesting idea I had the other night:

 

If the Cruise/Cameron/Del Torro/3D ATMOM is dead......

 

 

What if Del Torro were to remake this film?

 

1) It's a movie with a great hook but definite room for improvement.

 

2) It's a chance for Del Torro to make an accessible horror film where he could let his Lovecraftian imagination run wild.

 

3) It would cost a fraction of ATMOM.

 

4) He could use it to test the appetite for Lovecraftian Horror and perhaps use it as a 'show reel' to sell the studios on ATMOM.

 

 

What do you guys think?

Not interested. This isn't even a direct adaption of Lovecraft, it's a riff on Lovecraft. Why do you want to see a riff on a riff? There's enough to mine with Lovecraft that Del Toro should just do his own thing. I like the movie just fine the way it is. As mentioned, it's Carpenter's last great film. I've seen it countless times and never though "Man, this is good but imagine what ________ could do with it!"

post #19 of 20
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Originally Posted by Mike J View Post

Not interested. This isn't even a direct adaption of Lovecraft, it's a riff on Lovecraft. Why do you want to see a riff on a riff? There's enough to mine with Lovecraft that Del Toro should just do his own thing. I like the movie just fine the way it is. As mentioned, it's Carpenter's last great film. I've seen it countless times and never though "Man, this is good but imagine what ________ could do with it!"

I don't want a riff on a riff. I like this story, and I think if you made it about Lovecraft and not Sutter Cane, it would be even better. Like Moore's NEONOMICON without all the rape. Not a riff on a riff. Just the same story but done by Del Torro. Done better. 

 

I think it's OK but I wouldn't call it great. I think there is a bunch of room for improvement.

post #20 of 20
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Originally Posted by Dr Harford View Post

I don't want a riff on a riff. I like this story, and I think if you made it about Lovecraft and not Sutter Cane, it would be even better. Like Moore's NEONOMICON without all the rape. Not a riff on a riff. Just the same story but done by Del Torro. Done better. 

 

I think it's OK but I wouldn't call it great. I think there is a bunch of room for improvement.


I guess. Even if it's done better, all Del Toro would have done was remake a movie that's barely twenty years old. Given what his career has consisted of, it would be the least interesting thing he's made (save for Mimic). This story has been told, there's so much to Lovecraft, I think he should just do something entirely original.

 

But back to the movie. I present you Frances Bay a.k.a. Happy Gilmore's Grandma:

 

 

Not sure I'd take a Werther's Original from those tentacles!

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