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Here's an unlikely one: Big Star Third/Sister Lovers

While the first two Big Star albums could arguably be considered forward-thinking in the specific way they looked back to the early Byrds and Beatles (something to be fully resurrected in the pop underground of the 80s), I think Third might be the first great imploding, orchestral pop album. Guitars fade in and out, notes are missed, percussion is erratic, noise sometimes dominates over melody. There are genteel string parts that threaten to elevate the proceedings beyond the context of rock and into saccharine pop, but something falls apart, and the cracks show.

In many ways, it paved the way for albums like Yankee Hotel Foxtrot and The Soft Bulletin, on which pop songs are decked out in florid arrangements, but the weight almost seems too much; the cracks show through and everything threatens to collapse in on itself.

In fact, since the first time I heard "Misunderstood" from Wilco's earlier Being There, I've always assumed it was their attempt at re-writing "Kangaroo." YHF is less indebted to Third in composition than this song, but the spirit runs through it.
post #52 of 55
I'm not sure if it could be listed as ahead of it's time as it was pretty popular when it came out but Stevie Wonder's Talking Book is eight kinds of awesome and influential to boot.

If we're bringing up hip hop the The Message by the Furious Five has to be in there.

From a blues perspective Muddy Water's Electric Mud was well ahead of it's time. It's only now starting to get the respect it deserves as an influence on R&B, hip hop, psychedelia and funk.
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post #54 of 55
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Originally Posted by Ryan S~
From a blues perspective Muddy Water's Electric Mud was well ahead of it's time. It's only now starting to get the respect it deserves as an influence on R&B, hip hop, psychedelia and funk.
Not really. Electric Mud is basically a rip-off of the Hendrix/Cream/whomever sound that was popular at the time. I guess it was ahead of its time for blues purists, who were living 10 years behind the time, but it didn't really sound very different from a lot of big hit records of its day.
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Originally Posted by Z-Man
Not really. Electric Mud is basically a rip-off of the Hendrix/Cream/whomever sound that was popular at the time. I guess it was ahead of its time for blues purists, who were living 10 years behind the time, but it didn't really sound very different from a lot of big hit records of its day.
I agree with you particularly on the purist part. But I'm just talking from a strictly genre based perspective. Hendrix and Clapton were far more influential in the rock field, granted, but Electric Mud changed how a lot of blues musicians record. It was a well-respected and loved blues musician bringing something new to the game.

It was also pretty huge in influencing early rap. The up front mix of the drums (despite Muddy not liking it) can be heard all over very early rap recording. Hell, Dr. Dre and Ice Cube still site it as a major influence on their songwriting and production gigs.
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