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This guy should be the Dem's nominee

post #1 of 17
10/19/07 at 12:42pm
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http://news.aol.com/story/_a/democra...19091009990001

This Rep. Pete Stark is my new hero...
Why?

1. Calls the republicans on their bullshit with funding a losing war but not funding a workable health care plan.

2. Is the first Democrat that I can remember who DOESN'T APOLOGIZE like a little bitch.

3. Is the first congressman in history to declare himself an atheist! I'm an agonostic, but still that takes balls.
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post #2 of 17
10/19/07 at 12:47pm
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You trying to pick on me? You trying to start some shit with me?

Kiddin, try and fix it as I'm sure you are attempting to do.
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post #3 of 17
10/19/07 at 12:56pm
Link broke.
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post #4 of 17
10/19/07 at 12:58pm
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Originally Posted by Boomstick
Link broke.
I was able to get it Boom, or are you just jokin?
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post #5 of 17
10/19/07 at 1:09pm
Haha!!! It just looks like a mess... I'm fucking with you, cause I didn't even try it.
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post #6 of 17
10/19/07 at 1:12pm
You can't embed flash content on these forums, don't even try.
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post #7 of 17
10/19/07 at 1:13pm
Thread Starter 
The link is fixed.
Sorry... I'm relatively new to posting here.
Please, forgive my "aint it cool news" -level technical knowledge of the forums.

Quote:
Democrat Riles GOP With War Comment
By ERICA WERNER,AP
Posted: 2007-10-19 11:03:10

WASHINGTON (Oct. 18) - A House Democrat accused Republicans Thursday of sending troops to Iraq to "get their heads blown off for the president's amusement."

The outburst from Rep. Pete Stark as the House debated a children's health bill drew immediate condemnation from Republicans who demanded he retract it.

Instead Stark, known for his liberal views and volatile temperament, issued a statement saying Republicans should apologize for voting against an expansion of children's health care.

By a vote of 273-156 the House failed Thursday to override President Bush 's veto of legislation to expand the popular State Children's Health Insurance Program.

Stark, who's in his 18th term representing the liberal East Bay near San Francisco, took to the floor to accuse Republicans of funding the Iraq war but not children's health.

"You don't have money to fund the war or children," Stark declared. "But you're going to spend it to blow up innocent people if we can get enough kids to grow old enough for you to send to Iraq to get their heads blown off for the President's amusement."

A White House spokesperson was not immediately available Thursday afternoon to respond to Stark's comment.

A clip of Stark's remarks was quickly posted to YouTube and e-mailed around by Republicans.

"Congressman Stark's statement dishonors not only the commander in chief, but the thousands of courageous men and women of America's armed forces who believe in their mission and are putting their lives on the line for our freedom and security," said House Minority Leader John Boehner , R-Ohio. He called for Stark to retract his statement and apologize.

Instead of retraction or apology the statement Stark issued in response to Boehner just offered more criticism of the "chicken hawks in Congress who vote to deny children health care." Stark did also express respect for the troops.

It was just the latest provocative comment from Stark. On one occasion in 2001 he and then then-Rep. J.C. Watts of Oklahoma had to be separated after Stark claimed all of Watts' children were illegitimate. In fact only two of Watts' six children had been born out of wedlock.

Earlier this year, Stark became the first member of Congress to publicly proclaim himself an atheist.
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post #8 of 17
10/19/07 at 1:29pm
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Originally Posted by Boomstick
Haha!!! It just looks like a mess... I'm fucking with you, cause I didn't even try it.
It was what the chewer posted at the beginning, but you know that don't you Yum-yum boy?

But back to the topic,
Why can't anything be discussed without the war in Iraq being mentioned (yeah I said war, so fucking sue me).
Pass the fucking bill, as it stands if you really care about the kids. Why is that so hard?
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post #9 of 17
10/19/07 at 1:58pm
Ok, I'll say it. Pete Stark is an embarrassment to the office he holds.
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post #10 of 17
10/19/07 at 2:12pm
It's a sad that you suggest this guy could even consider being a presidential nominee. The point of these primaries is to get people who can win.
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post #11 of 17
10/19/07 at 2:36pm
I like my politicians as outspoken as the next guy, but I also prefer they be eloquent and forceful rather than annoying and insulting. So yeah, Stark is pretty much an embarrasment.
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post #12 of 17
10/19/07 at 2:46pm
Considering that the goal ought to be to get the veto overridden, and Stark's jackassery is only working at cross-purposes to that goal by alienating moderate Republicans, I say fuck that guy.
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post #13 of 17
10/19/07 at 8:47pm
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Originally Posted by Kevin K
only working at cross-purposes to that goal by alienating moderate Republicans, I say fuck that guy.
The last actual moderate Republicans were hounded out of the party in the early 2000's. And I say, fuck the media for not noticing.
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post #14 of 17
10/19/07 at 10:09pm
I don't cheer this guy but I cheer what he's saying and where he's choosing to say it.
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post #15 of 17
10/19/07 at 11:14pm
He's right in that more Democrats need to stop apologizing for everything as if they are never acting from a place of conviction. That's embarrassing too. And its a recipe for failure at the political game. To me, its the bigger issue than one kinda nutty congressman who is probably thinking he's channeling the power of Howard Beale.
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post #16 of 17
10/20/07 at 11:31am
Good point, PZ.
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post #17 of 17
10/23/07 at 1:06pm
Stark apologizes, Censure bid fails.

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WASHINGTON -- Republicans failed in an effort Tuesday to have the House censure Rep. Pete Stark, D-Calif., who said in a congressional speech last week that U.S. troops are being sent to Iraq "to get their heads blown off for the president's amusement."

Without debate, the House voted 196-173 to kill the proposal to censure Stark for "his despicable conduct." The vote was mostly along party lines, with all 168 Republicans on hand supporting the measure offered by Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio. Five Democrats joined them.

Stark, 75, stirred cries of protest Thursday during a debate over President Bush's veto of a $35 billion increase to a children's health insurance program. "You don't have money to fund the war or children," Stark said on the House floor. "But you're going to spend it to blow up innocent people if we can get enough kids to grow old enough for you to send to Iraq to get their heads blown off for the president's amusement."

Stark initially refused to apologize despite condemnations from GOP lawmakers and others. Moments after Tuesday's vote, however, he addressed the House to apologize to his colleagues, "to the president and his family," and to U.S. troops offended by his remarks.

"I hope that with this apology I will become as insignificant as I should be" in the continuing debates over Iraq and health care, he said. Boehner was among those who applauded.

Last week, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said Stark's remarks on Thursday were "inappropriate and distracted from the seriousness of the subject at hand."
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