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Skeevy Slimeballs, Thugs, Goons, and Henchmen Typecast Thespians

post #1 of 122
10/23/07 at 3:39pm
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Sure some actors will never be the romantic leading men, forever destined to play the Average Joe or the everyman (Spacey, Giamatti, and maybe even Buscemi) or labeled as a "character actor". They weren't blessed with a chiseled chin or matinee idol looks... But some guys... some guys will never be cast in even a likable role, or even as a good guy. With that said, I showcase these 3 candidates. 3 guys that will almost always play a lowlife, crook, or corrupt individual. These guys give you the creeps for just showing their ugly mugs onscreen.

Christopher Fairbank (Nic from Batman '89)



Michael Massee (Funboy from The Crow)



Billy Drago (Frank Nitti from The Untouchables)




What say you? Any other nominees or honorable mentions? I see that guys like Pearlman and Trejo have broken through the labels and have managed to pick up some good guy and lead roles.

EDIT: I see this thread as a companion to this one. But a different spin on the matter.

EDIT #2: These 3 guys (after looking at all their pics together) could easily play family members. Sure, an ugly family of criminals, but...
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post #2 of 122
10/23/07 at 3:41pm
I... I... I actually thought that the guy who played Nitti was the same guy who played Funboy. Well, my mind is blown.
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post #3 of 122
10/23/07 at 3:45pm
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Originally Posted by Mattioli
I... I... I actually thought that the guy who played Nitti was the same guy who played Funboy. Well, my mind is blown.
It's funny, I was originally going to post them in the Look Alike, Act Alike thread, but decided these ugly scumbag f**kers need their own space.
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post #4 of 122
10/23/07 at 3:47pm
Al Leong: Official henchman of the 80's and Early 90's

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post #5 of 122
10/23/07 at 3:48pm
Ah, Michael Massee. The Man who Shot Brandon Lee.

Guy has a great voice.
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post #6 of 122
10/23/07 at 3:57pm
Jesus, imagine living w/ that stigma. During the interrogation scene in SEVEN, you can almost sense it's still haunting him.
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post #7 of 122
10/23/07 at 3:58pm
"Guy has a great voice"

and sharks a mean game of pool
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post #8 of 122
10/23/07 at 3:58pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by RathBandu
Ah, Michael Massee. The Man who Shot Brandon Lee.

Guy has a great voice.
He's been on some recent eps of SUPERNATURAL, adding his unique brand of scum and villainy.

This group of actors is truly the Mos Eisley Cantina of Hollywood.

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Al Leong: Official henchman of the 80's and Early 90's
Absolutely... BTILC, Action Jackson... all the greats.
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post #9 of 122
10/23/07 at 4:00pm
Oohhhh.. I thought that guy looked familiar, the God-fearing guy from the Rabbit's Foot episode? (sorry, I don't really follow the show but saw that episode and it was a blast)
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post #10 of 122
10/23/07 at 4:03pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trejo
Oohhhh.. I thought that guy looked familiar, the God-fearing guy from the Rabbit's Foot episode? (sorry, I don't really follow the show but saw that episode and it was a blast)
That's him.

The guys in this thread would all look at home in orange jumpsuits (or fingerless hobo gloves and dirt) for sure.
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post #11 of 122
10/23/07 at 4:07pm
J.E. Freeman (Miller's Crossing, Wild At Heart)

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post #12 of 122
10/23/07 at 4:12pm
Alternate thread title:
Moltisanti's List Of Actors Who Deserve Academy Awards
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post #13 of 122
10/23/07 at 4:15pm
Can..
David Patrick Kelly (Warriors, Commando, the Crow, etc)
.. come out to plaaaaay?

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post #14 of 122
10/23/07 at 4:29pm
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Originally Posted by BobClark
Alternate thread title:
Moltisanti's List Of Actors Who Deserve Academy Awards
Every year I nominate Thomas Rosales Jr. for the Irving G. Thalberg Memorial Award and every year I get the same response. A letter explaining that I have no authority at all when it comes to nominating people for the Irving G. Thalberg Memorial Award.

Don't you worry Thomas Rosales Jr. I'll get 'em to crack sooner or later!

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post #15 of 122
10/23/07 at 4:32pm
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Originally Posted by Trejo
Al Leong: Official henchman of the 80's and Early 90's
A wise choice. And here's his partner; Gerald Okamura.

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post #16 of 122
10/23/07 at 4:35pm
Might as well go for the Asian trifecta

Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa (you know what from!)

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post #17 of 122
10/23/07 at 4:40pm
Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa recently played a very funny henchman in Balls of Fury. One of the few funny parts of that film. The scene where he threatens Dan Fogler, walks off-screen, walks back on-screen and asks for directions to the highway was quite funny.
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post #18 of 122
10/23/07 at 4:45pm
Oh really? I still haven't seen Balls of Fury, it wasn't exactly well recieved or anything. I'll have to give it a whirl on DVD for Cary and President Camacho.

I was watching Showdown in Little Tokyo the other night so Tagawa was still on the brain, he's such a great baddie.
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post #19 of 122
10/23/07 at 4:50pm
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Originally Posted by Moltisanti
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This guy's most shocking role was in SPEED. Instead of playing a gang member or a henchman, He played a coffee shop employee.

"Ey you forgot your MUFFIN, Jack!"
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post #20 of 122
10/23/07 at 4:55pm
He got his due respect when Takeshi Kitano cast him as one of the Latino crime bosses in BROTHER. He died regally.
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post #21 of 122
10/23/07 at 5:00pm
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury. I present to you Richard Tyson.

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post #22 of 122
10/23/07 at 5:01pm
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Originally Posted by Trejo
Al Leong: Official henchman of the 80's and Early 90's
Also the only henchman on this thread to be killed onscreen by an ice cream cone.
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post #23 of 122
10/23/07 at 5:03pm
Speaking of the 80's, no movie was complete without Randall "Tex" Cubb.

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post #24 of 122
10/23/07 at 5:04pm
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Also the only henchman on this thread to be killed onscreen by an ice cream cone.
Which I would definitely put on my resume.

I always thought that was John C. Reilly before he sold out and took acting lessons...
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post #25 of 122
10/23/07 at 5:10pm
Thread Starter 
These schlubby guys cross-over as good guys occasionally (the snitches, go-to gophers, etc), but are still skeevy little weasels nevertheless...

William Sanderson (Bladerunner, Deadwood)



Tracey Walter (Bob the Goon, duh!)



Michael J. Pollard (Split Second, I Come in Peace, Tango & Cash)



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Ladies and gentlemen of the jury. I present to you Richard Tyson.
He was actually pretty good in Big Bad Wolf (carried baggage from Kindergarten Cop along with him), and always gives off the villain vibe (usually the main bad guy though)... even if he was a hero in Hardball (1989) the buddy cop TV show.
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post #26 of 122
10/23/07 at 5:13pm


Professor Toru Tanaka teaches a class in Thugonomics.
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post #27 of 122
10/23/07 at 5:19pm
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Originally Posted by Johnny Bola


Professor Toru Tanaka teaches a class in Thugonomics.
Did you know... the son of Harold Sakata (the original Oddjob in Goldfinger), parodied his father apparently on "You Only Come Once" ep of Son of the Beach (as the character Handjive). Hahahaha.


This thread was made for the likes of Brion James (RIP) and Trevor Goddard (RIP as well).
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post #28 of 122
10/23/07 at 5:21pm
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Originally Posted by Trejo
Oh really? I still haven't seen Balls of Fury, it wasn't exactly well recieved or anything. I'll have to give it a whirl on DVD for Cary and President Camacho.

I was watching Showdown in Little Tokyo the other night so Tagawa was still on the brain, he's such a great baddie.
It's the one truly memorable laugh in the film, but it's short and harmless. President Camacho is hardly even in it at all, however. Like, 20 seconds.
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post #29 of 122
10/23/07 at 5:25pm
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Stephen Sommers seems to prefer his buddy, Kevin J. O'Connor (Mummy, Deep Rising, Van Helsing), for the skeevy henchman/sidekick. He was Igor for crissakes...




EDIT: And what the heck has Glenn Shaddix been up to recently??? Answer... cartoon voice work.
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post #30 of 122
10/23/07 at 5:27pm
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Originally Posted by Patrick Ripoll
It's the one truly memorable laugh in the film, but it's short and harmless. President Camacho is hardly even in it at all, however. Like, 20 seconds.
So basically, every scene of his in the trailer, is every scene of his in the whole movie.

Bummer.
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post #31 of 122
10/23/07 at 5:29pm
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Originally Posted by BobClark
Alternate thread title:
Moltisanti's List Of Actors Who Deserve Academy Awards
You must spread some reputation around before giving it to Bob Clark again.
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post #32 of 122
10/23/07 at 5:30pm
I think half the reason Batman '89 is so great is because of it's memorable thugs. You got the previously mentioned Christopher Fairbank and Tracey Walter. You also got the incredibly distinctive face of George Roth ("That's not what I heard...I heard the Bat got 'em"), you got Edwin Craig ("And what's with that stupid grin?"), you got crazy knife swinging thug, and all the thugs in the Art Museum scene are so great, having so much fun. You got Jack Palance as a mob boss, you got the great Robert Wuhl (yeah, I said it, great) as a sleazy reporter, it's a very impressive display of talent.
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post #33 of 122
10/23/07 at 5:36pm
Couldn't agree more. Memorable thugs can definitely make or break action movies for me.

See also: Kiss of the Dragon (the blonde twins, badass), Dick Tracy (William Forsythe as Flattop, Dustin Hoffman as Mumbles, Pacino as Big Boy!)

I know there's more good examples.. my brain is just not cooperating.

I almost want to say the Punisher (2004).. even though it's a disappointing movie, the Russian and Harry Heck were fun, and Will Patton's #2 was decent too.

I'm a really big sucker for 'gimmick' bad guys though. I can't get enough of them. I even think Tattoo from Elektra is cool just cuz he's such a good gimmick bad guy.
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post #34 of 122
10/23/07 at 5:36pm
how can the best of the best not be included




The Ironside!

i think the only time i've seen him not on the bad guy side was in Starship Troopers
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post #35 of 122
10/23/07 at 5:37pm
He was also that doctor in the early days of ER and replacement Captain in Seaquest.
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post #36 of 122
10/23/07 at 5:43pm
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Problem is, we're already starting to mention typecast main villains (R Tyson, and Ironside) and those guys can get top billing. Sure Billy Drago has been the main heavy at times, but only on Charmed and DTV stuff.

This thread can morph into something else, but I wanted to cover the "lower-lifes" first.
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post #37 of 122
10/23/07 at 5:53pm
The king of this thread is Michael fucking Wincott, the guy I wanted to be when I grew up. Most nefarious bastard alive.

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post #38 of 122
10/23/07 at 6:02pm
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Originally Posted by Stormin
The king of this thread is Michael fucking Wincott...
Not to be mistaken with his brother Jeff or lookalike, Thomas Ian Griffith.
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post #39 of 122
10/23/07 at 6:04pm
Sven-Ole Thorsen



You know, the thug, goon, henchman from such films as Conan the Barbarian, The Running Man, The Rundown, and oddly enough he's credited in Lethal Weapons 1 and 3.
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post #40 of 122
10/23/07 at 6:10pm


If someone mentions Cholos in a film, it's a pretty safe bet that Noel Gugliemi is going to make an appearance.
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post #41 of 122
10/23/07 at 6:14pm
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Originally Posted by El Peeper
Sven-Ole Thorsen



You know, the thug, goon, henchman from such films as Conan the Barbarian, The Running Man, The Rundown, and oddly enough he's credited in Lethal Weapons 1 and 3.
I don't know if he'd fit the criteria, though, because according to IMDb he was cast as a hero in the late Eighties kids' show/toy commercial "Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future."

I think we need Darkmite to make a ruling on this entry.
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post #42 of 122
10/23/07 at 6:24pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris O.
I don't know if he'd fit the criteria, though, because according to IMDb he was cast as a hero in the late Eighties kids' show/toy commercial "Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future."

I think we need Darkmite to make a ruling on this entry.
It's forgivable. The guy's oeuvre and persona remain untainted.
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post #43 of 122
10/23/07 at 6:27pm
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Originally Posted by EdHocken
He was also that doctor in the early days of ER and replacement Captain in Seaquest.
Maybe it's just first impressions or something, but Ironside will always be Ham Tyler from V: the Final Battle (and the TV series) to me. Sure, movie for movie, he's probably more often the baddie, but he's the well-intentioned tough guy in some of his most high-profile work.

Also, like Darkmites said, he's not really a thug, but often a main character, villain or not.
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post #44 of 122
10/23/07 at 6:27pm
No mention of this fellow?



Robert Lasardo.
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post #45 of 122
10/23/07 at 6:29pm


The late great Nicholas Worth; played count-less goons (i.e. Swamp Thing, Darkman, The Ladies Club, Naked Gun: From the Files of Police Squad!, etc.)
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post #46 of 122
10/23/07 at 6:32pm
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8
Stephen Sommers seems to prefer his buddy, Kevin J. O'Connor (Mummy, Deep Rising, Van Helsing), for the skeevy henchman/sidekick. He was Igor for crissakes...
But he was Swann in Barker's "Lord of Illusions" so has actually once played a primary/lead character.
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post #47 of 122
10/23/07 at 6:32pm
How have we gotten this far into the thread without mentioning Tobin Bell? Yeah, he's gotten a higher profile now thanks to Saw, but he's been a steady scumbag for years in The Firm, In the Line of Fire and the second season of 24.
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post #48 of 122
10/23/07 at 6:33pm
"V" is Ironside's landmark role for me as well. Love the scene between Marc Singer and him where they fight on a truck over whether to ship out the red dust.

Also dig Ironside in EXTREME PREJUDICE. A movie full of dudes who go hand in hand with this thread. Forsythe, Clancy Brown, Tiny Lister, and Gary Cervantes just to name a few.
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post #49 of 122
10/23/07 at 6:38pm
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Originally Posted by FilmNerdJamie


The late great Nicholas Worth; played count-less goons (i.e. Swamp Thing, Darkman, The Ladies Club, Naked Gun: From the Files of Police Squad!, etc.)
He looks like an overweight Clancy Brown(Highlander bald) in that photo.
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post #50 of 122
10/23/07 at 6:50pm
Nexus, great call on Lasardo. I remember coming across that heavily tatted guy in King of New York and as the drug dealer from the cut out portion of Leon

I'd like to point out this guy played a lot of mafia guys and then had an unexpected role as an Irishman in Shallow Hal



Joe Viterelli
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