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post #51 of 62
11/5/07 at 3:33pm
Makes me wonder if King got the idea from Polanski's joke, from a decade earlier.
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post #52 of 62
11/5/07 at 5:10pm
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Originally Posted by Amphibatron
I'd then only argue for certain traits to be included for a creature of lore to be called a werewolf or vampire and not necessarily any specific rules that they are bound by.
I agree with you, but playing devil's advocate, couldn't a monster's weakness be considered a defining characteristic? Otherwise, Monster taxonomy becomes awfully vague and generalized, no? The method to dispatch the creature is often as substantial as its behavior and physiology.

EDIT: But yeah, rules on imaginary beasts sorta confine the imagination don't they?

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Originally Posted by Iggytheborg
I don't have enough on this topic to make it a Rant in A Minor or Readers' Rites article
Howbout now? I vote "yes".
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post #53 of 62
11/5/07 at 5:27pm
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Originally Posted by Amphibatron
Well, in regards to werewolves, is silver a definitive weakness? Some stories say yes, others don't.
For the sticklers, maybe. Not for me. "Man changing to wolf or exhibiting the traits of a wolf" is all I need (prefer the full on monster of course). There's all sorts of various werewolf species and degrees of transmutation as well. Compare The WOLFEN to Jack in WOLF to Picardo in The HOWLING to Rea in COMPANY of WOLVES.

Sure (responding to your unedited post), Silver isn't always a necessity in every werewolf flick. It's cinematic shorthand stemmed from a cultural assumption/consensus.
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post #54 of 62
11/5/07 at 5:36pm
I was looking up "silver" and "vampires" and found this web page.

http://www.phillyburbs.com/vamp/defenses.shtml

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Seeds: At last, someone used the stupidest, most asinine method of deterring a vampire in the movies. Dump a load of seeds in front of a marauding vampire, and he ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY HAS to stop in mid-lunge and start counting 'em all. Up until now, this bizarre neurosis has ever been used on the silver screen. Now, thanks to this year's "Dracula II: Ascension," we can include it as time tested, Wes Craven approved. For whatever that's worth anymore. So. If you dropped an ear of corn in front of Dracula, would he have to count each kernel, or would he just say, "ONE!," and tear your face off? There are still important tests to be made here, folks.
I complete forgot about the seeds thing. I think that was used in "The Fearless Vampire Killers", I'm not certain.
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post #55 of 62
11/5/07 at 5:44pm
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8
Compare The WOLFEN to Jack in WOLF to Picardo in The HOWLING to Rea in COMPANY of WOLVES.
As an aside, The Wolfen aren't anything related to werewolves. They're based off of a Native American myth of intelligent spirits inhabiting wolves, which the book's novelist transformed into an off-breed of intelligent mutant wolves. The film version if I recall (it's been ages since I've seen it or read the book) lost a lot of background information to where they often get confused sometimes as an offshoot of the Lycanthrope family.
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post #56 of 62
11/5/07 at 7:32pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson
This reminds of the sci fi geeks who insist that every single robot must adhere to Asmiov's Three Laws of Robotics. I know of people who won't watch the Terminator films because the Terminators violate the First Law.
I'm a little hazy on the laws. Is the Terminator Jewish or something?
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post #57 of 62
11/5/07 at 7:33pm
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As usual, Surge is right. It's been years since I've read or seen Wolfen, but I remember being surprised that they weren't werewolves, per se.
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post #58 of 62
11/5/07 at 7:55pm
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Originally Posted by IggytheBorg
As usual, Surge is right. It's been years since I've read or seen Wolfen, but I remember being surprised that they weren't werewolves, per se.
Sure they are... Mystical magical werewolves. Like the kind you see painted with purple Aurora Borealis on T-shirts at Walmart. Predatory shapeshifters, different culture's spin on similar materials. I guess it's the ying to the Skin-walker's yang.

But nothing like crap werewolves in Blood & Chocolate. They had pixie dust dandruff.

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Trivia: Joe Dante's The Howling, John Landis' An American Werewolf in London, and Wolfen were all released in 1981.

Didn't realize/remember but Whitley Streiber (who wrote Communion, mentioned in the thread) wrote WOLFEN as well.
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post #59 of 62
11/6/07 at 3:42am
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Originally Posted by billylove
I was looking up "silver" and "vampires" and found this web page.

http://www.phillyburbs.com/vamp/defenses.shtml



I complete forgot about the seeds thing. I think that was used in "The Fearless Vampire Killers", I'm not certain.
There was an episode of The X-Files that used it. Of course, that episode was mostly a goof anyway.
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post #60 of 62
11/6/07 at 12:21pm
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Originally Posted by Phil!
Full Moon High wants to know what the fuck, Darkmite. Adam Arkin's Tony - truly a forgotten monster.
Sorry, the epic sagas of Scott and Todd Howard cast a historical shadow over that one. It still doesn't have a DVD release.
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post #61 of 62
11/6/07 at 12:37pm
Trivia: In 1985, the Werewolf movie reached perfection when a young actor, in what can only be described as the greatest single performance in the history of acting, tackled the emotionally taxing role of Scott Howard. That movie-- nay, that mana from heaven-- was Teen Wolf. It would subsequently cross the boundaries of medium and culture and, ultimately, help to tear down the Berlin Wall.
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post #62 of 62
11/6/07 at 12:43pm
A "hairy situation" indeed.
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