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Sterilised to "save the planet"

post #1 of 27
11/25/07 at 1:00pm
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"Meet the women who won't have babies - because they're not eco friendly"
http://www.dailyma/il.co.uk/pages/li...#StartComments

Yet if you're going to be such a fundamentalist about this, why would you make these ridiculous exceptions?

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"Every year, we also take a nice holiday - we've just come back from South Africa.
"We feel we can have one long-haul flight a year, as we are vegan and childless, thereby greatly reducing our carbon footprint and combating over-population.
Really? I have a feeling this is more about just not wanting children and justifying it with eco fundamentalists beliefs.
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post #2 of 27
11/25/07 at 1:03pm
You know what would be even better for the environment? If they stopped breathing.

I don't think this belongs to the political forum, though.
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post #3 of 27
11/25/07 at 1:08pm
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Yeah, should "Misc. Culture" sorry about that. If somebody could move it?
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post #4 of 27
11/25/07 at 1:48pm
This should do the trick

If this is not a a hoax, these are some seriously stupid people. My bet is they get murdered the next time they travel to an exotic location.
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post #5 of 27
11/25/07 at 3:42pm
Fucking retarded.

The future of this world looks increasingly like the bastard offspring of BRAZIL and IDIOCRACY. How pleasant that will be.
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post #6 of 27
11/25/07 at 7:43pm
My favorite response was when someone described my decision not to have children "selfish". I'm still trying to figure that one out.
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post #7 of 27
11/25/07 at 7:54pm
What is weird/frightening is how prevalent this kind of view is among hardcore animal rights and ecological activists. My most recent experience with this was this girl on campus who is currently one of the people occupying trees and protesting the expansion of Memorial Stadium. She hates children and advocates zero population growth (I'm constantly shocked by how many "animal lovers" hate their fellow human beings...Ingrid Newkirk and Bill Maher are great examples). If that doesn't make her warm and cuddly enough, she found out I was sterile and (upon learning this) she informed me that she was also sterile in the following way: "I'm glad we can't have kids. Without modern medical science, we would both be dead. This way, we won't pollute the gene pool or contribute to the current ecological crisis."
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post #8 of 27
11/25/07 at 8:57pm
For their next outing, they're hanging out at the Gas N Sip.

By choice, man. By choice.
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post #9 of 27
11/26/07 at 11:52am
My 6-year-old son says, "Fuck those frigid bitches. Now gimme a hamburger and some Legos."
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post #10 of 27
11/26/07 at 11:52am
How is not having a kid selfish? Is there a soul up there in heaven waiting to be a child and being denied because some couple doesn't want to have kids? "I'm sorry, Timmy. Looks like you'll never get to run and play... ever. I'm sorry your not-parents are selfish pricks."
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post #11 of 27
11/26/07 at 5:34pm
I wish more stupid people would decide not to breed, we should encourage this as much as possible.

I also constantly get called selfish or immature for not wanting to have children, I really don't understand it. Seriously, I would make the worst mother in the world, any child I raise would invariably turn out to have severe emotional problems. I couldn't take the guilt, I get weird enough worrying about the well being of my pets.
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post #12 of 27
11/27/07 at 10:47pm
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I hope I don't get flamed for this, but while I wouldn't call you selfish I do understand why people say that. Most people do so because they think your decision is in order to have all your money to yourself instead of supporting a family. Others think it's because you want to have all the time and freedom to do whatever you want. Some of that reasoning will be unfair to you, and I wouldn't say even if those were your reasons that you are inherently selfish. I wouldn't say you were selfless because of your decision either. Now I do believe this, for most imperfect people, kids help you become less selfish if you do everything right. Doesn't mean all people do this (or most) but when you have kids your life is not for yourself and you are forced to take care of other people. Your life is not your own, it's way beyond marriage in this regard. When you are a grandparent, the process continues. I think the most selfless person I've met is my grandmother. Would she have been that way if she had no kids, maybe ... but somehow I think the process of having children and taking care of them greatly helped her get there.
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post #13 of 27
11/27/07 at 11:41pm
Fact: Hippie babies are born with hairy armpits. Something to think about.
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post #14 of 27
11/28/07 at 12:07am
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica
I hope I don't get flamed for this, but while I wouldn't call you selfish I do understand why people say that. Most people do so because they think your decision is in order to have all your money to yourself instead of supporting a family. Others think it's because you want to have all the time and freedom to do whatever you want. Some of that reasoning will be unfair to you, and I wouldn't say even if those were your reasons that you are inherently selfish. I wouldn't say you were selfless because of your decision either. Now I do believe this, for most imperfect people, kids help you become less selfish if you do everything right. Doesn't mean all people do this (or most) but when you have kids your life is not for yourself and you are forced to take care of other people. Your life is not your own, it's way beyond marriage in this regard. When you are a grandparent, the process continues. I think the most selfless person I've met is my grandmother. Would she have been that way if she had no kids, maybe ... but somehow I think the process of having children and taking care of them greatly helped her get there.
No, I see what you mean.

In fact, I've heard the selfish thing A LOT... but around here, it comes FROM the people not having children (I've never actually heard someone say it to someone without kids, which is what is happening to some of you).

Two of my best friends say it all the time. My wife and I always tell them that they would be good parents, and they usually respond, "Nope! We're selfish, we like our money and our free time!"
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post #15 of 27
11/28/07 at 1:58am
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica
I hope I don't get flamed for this, but while I wouldn't call you selfish I do understand why people say that. Most people do so because they think your decision is in order to have all your money to yourself instead of supporting a family. Others think it's because you want to have all the time and freedom to do whatever you want.
These 2 sentences sum up perfectly why I'll never have kids.
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post #16 of 27
11/28/07 at 2:02am
You selfish bastard.
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post #17 of 27
11/28/07 at 3:14am
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Originally Posted by Buckshot
These 2 sentences sum up perfectly why I'll never have kids.

I thought it could be summed up in 2 words "Rodeo accident"
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post #18 of 27
11/28/07 at 3:22am
No, that's why he'll never please a woman.
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post #19 of 27
11/28/07 at 4:47am
Now that is selfish.
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post #20 of 27
11/28/07 at 4:40pm
Selfishness is exactly why I'm not interested in having children.

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Most people do so because they think your decision is in order to have all your money to yourself instead of supporting a family. Others think it's because you want to have all the time and freedom to do whatever you want.
That's exactly why I don't want children. Working myself to death to raise a family I never see because I'm too busy working myself to death to raise a family and then dropping dead at 45 is not for me. Two weeks in the Swiss Alps next summer, that's what's for me.
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post #21 of 27
11/29/07 at 4:39am
Selfishness gets a bad rap. Living for others really kind of sucks.
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post #22 of 27
11/29/07 at 5:09am
Unless you''re an Antarctic space monster in which case living for somebody else is kind of awesome.
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post #23 of 27
11/29/07 at 6:50am
Or an alien seed pod.
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post #24 of 27
11/29/07 at 10:28am
I thought I knew what love was.
Then I held my baby in my arms.
I'd had no idea.
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post #25 of 27
11/29/07 at 1:13pm
I've never been called a selfish person for not acquiring a mate and spawning.
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post #26 of 27
11/29/07 at 8:17pm
I'm the oldest of six children. My youngest sibling is twenty years younger than me.
My mother is the fourth of ten. My dad the first of five. You guessed it, Catholic family.

From the moment my wife & I were married both sides of the family (but especially my mother's) have been bugging the shit out of us asking when we're going to have kids. They point out that several of my cousins got married around the same time as us and all of them have children already.

FUCK THAT NOISE. We'll have kids when we're damn ready. You know what's selfish? Looking for validation for your life through my offspring. Especially when I'm the second oldest grandchild of OVER 50. There are plenty of kids already, I don't see why I should be racing to add to the mix.

Those of you that don't want to have kids: good for you. Worst decision would be to have kids because someone else wants you to. Having kids is life changing, and I look forward to the responsibility someday, but my wife and I will do it on our own schedule.
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post #27 of 27
11/29/07 at 8:25pm
Fifty grandkids?! Wow, just...damn. That's a lot.

Yeah, having kids because someone else wants you to is among the most asinine things (especially these days). It's not like it's easy to go, 'Well, this shit just ain't for me' and return to sender. That kid is there, you made the decision and now you got to stick with it.

There is adoption, but if you've been forced into having them, that may as well not exist.

I'll never forget the day when my mom and I were talking and she said, rather bluntly: "Don't have kids." And no, I'm not some freaky monster with a fetish for fucking in a bathtub full of Sprite.
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