Sherri Shepherd Doesn't Get That Whole BC Thing, Insists "Jesus Came First"

I get sad when I think about how people as crushingly ignorant as Sherri Shepherd can do so well for themselves, it destroys my faith in a meritocratic world. It's hard to argue that education is important when people like her make it to the top of their profession.

They only way for this to make any sense is if she thinks anyone mentioned in the bible count as Christians. Congratulations Jews your years of persecution are finally over, enjoy the pork and saviour.

"Jesus Came First"

That's what she said.

This is the level of discourse her idiocy demands.

It takes a real dedication to ignorance to misunderstand your own belief system. Even so, I can't fully hate her, because she's actually funny on 30 Rock.

I guess she thinks the bible was written out of sequence, Tarantino style. Maybe that explains why Jesus has that scar in the Old Testament.

THAT'S THE SAME WOMAN!?!

Fuck, now 30 Rock's just a little bit tainted.

As someone with far more wit than I once observed: "Some Christians deserve to be thrown to the lions."

Guys, obviously she was making a profound statement that Jesus, being God Himself, both the son and the father, was there at the beginning of time. And that before Jesus (meaning God), there was nothing because God (meaning Jesus) created the Heaven and the Earth. She was being DEEP, MAN! Like God and Jesus can be the SAAAAME PERSON!

Pass that bong this way, duuuuuuude.

Maybe she was trying to be, y'know, funny. At least I HOPE it was some kind of joke ... otherwise that is scary!
I love how Whoopi and the loud-one are trying to cover for her ... "on paper they came first". heh.

That's what I was thinking:

"Sherri just insulted her savior's sexual prowess? Wow, those Christians really are messed up about matters related to nooky. You don't see that in any other religions. 'Our prophet could totally out-fuck your prophet!' versus 'yeah, uh, our prophet can't control his spooje.' Night and day, I guess. Night and day."

::sigh::

What else can one really say about this? Makes me feel like I'm squandering my time working my way up the ranks, learning all manner of subjects and the like.

She kept repeating it thinking that if it's said a few dozen times, it becomes fact.

Why not? Works for Dobson.

This is how I feel everytime I watch MTV Cribs.

I find I almost have the opposite view; she'd have to get a job doing something, and I'd much rather she be on television, where her ignorance is made plain to a large nationwide audience, than carefully keeping it hidden and managing to scam her way into a position where she could do some real damage, like determining whether people like you or I can get a job or a driver's license or a necessary loan.

Jesus is timeless. Like Asian people.

It's absurd to ask that a woman who professes to be a devout Christian on a national platform know about the Old Testament?

Yet devout Christians follow the archaic rules that were described in the Old Testament.

Well, she is on The View.

There is only one way I can respond to this story:

I'm all for respecting the beliefs of others and all that, but anyone who claims to shape their entire life around the teachings of a particular person yet is so monumentally ignorant about the basics of their history deserves nothing but derision.

I think you goofed on the "Omnipotent Yellow Flesh of Christ."

Why talk about things?! or make comments!

And FWIW, I don't think any of us took her literally the first time she said it. It was the second, third and fourth time she said it as the others tried to clarify what they thought she so clearly did not mean.

Well, she off-hand and thoughtlessly reiterated it several times.

As for the "why do you care" question, you've created two problems for yourself:
1) Why do we care about any entertainment? Is hearing the opinion of real people chosen because they're interesting (to a certain demographic) somehow less important than the travails of fictional characters? We've got hundreds of posts on Transformers, but being offended by the almost certainly willful ignorance of this woman is a waste of our time?
2) If it's beneath our time to care about this, your role as the police of what we're supposed to care about becomes infinitely more useless.

Uh, why wouldn't you take her comments literally? She said Greeks were throwing Christians to the lions, which pretty much rules out any lofty spiritual metaphor.

To what meager extent I care, it's because there are many, many more intelligent and deserving people who have to struggle to have their thoughts heard while this idiot gets a national platform to trumpet her ignorance.

Moreover, its indicative of our culture of loud ignorance substituting for reasoned discourse. I'm not even saying that this is some sort of step back from how things were in the past, but we should ridicule people like this. That teaches them to have their facts straight when they open their mouth.

But isn't the point of shows like this that the idiots at home can identify with TV personalities who are equally clueless?

Fuck if I know, but fuck em anyway if so.

Wait, are we talking about Sherri Shepherd or you?

The secular left is the root of all nastiness??? Somebody better page Karl Rove.

I care only insofar as this incident serves as fodder for comedy.

Anyone who would stands in front of millions of people and spouts that kind of nonsense absolutely deserves ridicule.

When did stupid people become a protected species?

Which is the real answer, anyways. It's as funny as if you were teaching me about meteorology and I tried to refute you with my theory of thunder being created by angels bowling.

I think I'm done replying to this guy. He's incredibly presumptive and frankly, too obnoxious.

I'm going to actually respond to you, for the sake of discussion:

I'm not really sure exactly what you're saying here (you seem to be saying the word "discussions" a lot), but we aren't commenting as part of her demographic. We aren't even commenting as the "secular left" or that she somehow represents Christian people. She simply represents stupid (or if you want, woefully misinformed) people. But her saying so forcefully that "nothing predates jesus" is both a statement of fact and also a statement of belief, and the fact that she seems to have such a strong passionate zeal about a completely wrong tenet of her belief system is deserving of some commentary, at least in the way where it's pretty entertaining even if a bit mean spirited. Go read some other threads and thicken up your sensitive skin if you want to post around here. This is CHUD.

And if you want to make such a big deal about us "not being her demographic," the people who our comments would ever be harmful to (if only because they lack a sense of humor) wouldn't be this board's demographic, so what the fuck should they/you care?

edited for clarity.

It's quite possible to debate the logic of religion, but someone usually ends up being called either rude or ignorant.

How exactly are we supposed to treat the opinion of a woman who doesn't believe the first 50,000 years of human history happened? To give respect to that idea is to imply it is worthy of being held, and it is about as unwelcome a thought in the 21st century as I can think of.

Eh, just one last post to point out your hypocrisy. I can't resist.

Also, it's an honour to have Frank Luntz among us, even if it's just for 34 posts.

Let's not go there, seriously. It's not important to the debate. We're not debating the merits of her belief system. She's absolutely free to believe it, and it doesn't speak to her merit as a person. The problem is a mixture of her willful ignorance and outspoken nature. That should be obnoxious to any thinking individual on principle.

And you must not have any friends.

Nope, we're social animals, it doesn't work like that. She's in a position to influence the behaviour of lots of other people, and the fact that she is allowed to remain in a seat of influence and authority after displaying her lack of awareness legitimizes ignorance.

If we were leopards, I could see your point.

Ok, you're changing your points as soon as they're refuted. This would be a concern if there was a debate here. Instead, you're trolling. The best part is how poor a job you're doing.

You can't seriously be arguing that we're being mean to HER for saying she's stupid, and then saying that the people she'd influence are too stupid to matter?!

But I totally agree with you that we're assholes. No denying that.

Who says we would hate them? Your unique combination of ad hominem attack and baseless presumption is impressive, but a really lousy debate strategy. I do like the fact that you assume that there are people too stupid to matter. Glad you're not one of us assholes.

I think this sums it up nicely, and I think Barzun may be a tad unfamiliar with the levels (and occasional ferocity) of the snark on CHUD.

I believe that's called "concern trolling", to be precise.

Oh, we're plenty happy. To wit, an excerpt from my current IM conversation with Soul Ahn Ice:

Soul: holy shit
this guy has to be a troll
are you kidding me?

Sent at 4:32 PM on Wednesday
Soul: holy sweet mother mary


LD: This is so much fun
I mean, it's like watching an 8-year old try to argue with adults

Soul: god
please post again
before i leave
YES
ANOTHER POST!!!

Ah, hell. How can ya stay mad at a feller who says "s'pect"? Someday we'll be sharin' a beer and laughin' at this whole dern thing.

*spit*

Wow, this thread spawned quickly.