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CIA destroys tapes of interrogations

post #1 of 11
12/6/07 at 11:19pm
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http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/12/06/cia...pes/index.html
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post #2 of 11
12/6/07 at 11:59pm
I was gonna post that, but apathy rolled over on me and I just threw my hands up in surrender.

Fuck 'em all.
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post #3 of 11
12/7/07 at 12:18am
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Staff members of the Sept. 11 commission, which completed its work in 2004, expressed surprise when they were told that interrogation videotapes existed until 2005.

“The commission did formally request material of this kind from all relevant agencies, and the commission was assured that we had received all the material responsive to our request,” said Philip D. Zelikow, who served as executive director of the Sept. 11 commission and later as a senior counselor to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

“No tapes were acknowledged or turned over, nor was the commission provided with any transcript prepared from recordings,” he said.

Daniel Marcus, a law professor at American University who served as general counsel for the Sept. 11 commission and was involved in the discussions about interviews with Al Qaeda leaders, said he had heard nothing about any tapes being destroyed.

If tapes were destroyed, he said, “it’s a big deal, it’s a very big deal,” because it could amount to obstruction of justice to withhold evidence being sought in criminal or fact-finding investigations.

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Representative Rush Holt of New Jersey, a Democratic member of the House Intelligence Committee, has been pushing legislation in Congress to have all detainee interrogations videotaped so officials can refer to the tapes multiple times to glean better information.

Mr. Holt said he had been told many times that the C.I.A. does not record the interrogation of detainees. “When I would ask them whether they had reviewed the tapes to better understand the intelligence, they said ‘What tapes?’,” he said.
From the NY Times story that compelled Hayden to make a statement.
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post #4 of 11
12/7/07 at 1:46am
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bunch of stuff the "liberal media" will forget the next time Britney Spears takes a shit
What's one more total affront to everything the country stands for? We've let him get away with everything else. Why would we actually start doing something now?
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post #5 of 11
12/7/07 at 3:17am
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Originally Posted by reggie-wanker
Why would we actually start doing something now?
Because this is just too much! Because there is only so much we can stand! Because while constitutional minutiae don't hold our attention, cover-ups are easy to grasp! Because torture is--

Ooo, look, Dancing with the Stars is on.
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post #6 of 11
12/7/07 at 3:39am
"I ll do what it takes to bring these crooks to justice.... well... as long as it doesnt endanger my job.. or my career chances... doesnt cost me money.. isnt uncomfortable.. doesnt reduce my chances at having sex.... doesnt take too much of my valuable free time.... ah well, and of course a little bit of profit must be in it. But then, I ll stand up and do something against this corrupt government/agency/fill in random institution."

Somehow thats what it boils down to, isnt it?
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post #7 of 11
12/7/07 at 3:41am
Thank God for that. I looked really bloated in that video where I'm holding the ragtop's head under a bucket of live scorpions. It was just post-Christmas weight, but it's not exactly something you want splashed all over the media LOL!
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post #8 of 11
12/7/07 at 3:24pm
Bush claims "not to remember." Meanwhile, millions of white house emails have been destroyed. Hmmm, think it's a cover-up?
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post #9 of 11
12/7/07 at 3:39pm
What always gets me is that not only do the members of this administration do impossibly evil and illegal things all the time but most of them actually look evil. The CIA director looks like a bulldog, Michael Chertoff looks like an eighteenth century woodcut of the Devil... I'm just waiting for Secretary Snidely Whiplash to step before a podium. It's just ridiculous. The adults in this country are completely apathetic towards a group of people their kids would be inclined to boo and hiss at if they were characters in Saturday morning cartoons.
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post #10 of 11
12/7/07 at 7:15pm
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Rep. Jane Harman of California, then the senior Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, was one of only four members of Congress in 2003 informed of the tapes’ existence and the CIA’s intention to ultimately destroy them.

“I told the CIA that destroying videotapes of interrogations was a bad idea and urged them in writing not to do it,” Harman said. While key lawmakers were briefed on the CIA’s intention to destroy the tapes, they were not notified two years later when the spy agency actually carried out the plan. Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., said the committee only learned of the tapes’ destruction in November 2006.
If you live in California's 36th district, please vote against Jane Harman in the primary (if she's up this year--I've spent the last 15 minutes trying to figure that out). We need to get some Democrats with the spine to do more than "urge" the CIA not to destroy evidence.
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post #11 of 11
12/19/07 at 12:39pm
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At least four top White House lawyers took part in discussions with the Central Intelligence Agency between 2003 and 2005 about whether to destroy videotapes showing the secret interrogations of two operatives from Al Qaeda, according to current and former administration and intelligence officials.

The accounts indicate that the involvement of White House officials in the discussions before the destruction of the tapes in November 2005 was more extensive than Bush administration officials have acknowledged.

Those who took part, the officials said, included Alberto R. Gonzales, who served as White House counsel until early 2005; David S. Addington, who was the counsel to Vice President Dick Cheney and is now his chief of staff; John B. Bellinger III, who until January 2005 was the senior lawyer at the National Security Council; and Harriet E. Miers, who succeeded Mr. Gonzales as White House counsel.
From the NY Times

If Bush & Cheney had been in office 20 years ago, they would be in prison by now.
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