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Comic Book Character Draft: Discussion Thread

post #1 of 326
12/12/07 at 6:59pm
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When: Thursday, December 13th - Friday, December 21st

How it'll all go down:

Each day, everyone follows the order I'll post in the Round Thread as it goes up. Each draft will contain a pick for a hero and a villain.

All genres, companies, eras and styles are welcome.

For example, if you were going to draft Iceman and The White Queen, you'd give us a breakdown on who that person is.

EX.

Iceman
Real Name: Robert "Bobby" Drake
Debut Comic: The X-Men #1 (September, 1963)

The White Queen
Real Name: Emma Frost
Debut Comic: Uncanny X-Men #129 (January, 1980)

For those cats with Photoshop skills or other talents, you can get all fancy pants with your draft picks.


The discussion thread is to explain why you chose who you did and for people to bring the trash talk.

A third thread will be opened for you guys to list your teams of selected heroes and villains.

Each draft round will feature a drafter picking 1 hero, 1 villain. I used the White Queen as an example of the shaky area. Specify what era you're culling from and I'll make the call on it. When in doubt, PM me first.
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post #2 of 326
12/12/07 at 7:03pm
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All genres, companies, eras and styles are welcome (as long as they are from American or British comics).
Define "American or British comics". I've my eye on some characters that have been reprinted in America but have origins elsewhere.
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post #3 of 326
12/12/07 at 7:04pm
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English language only in original print.

Mainly, it's for group familiarity. But, if you can make the case for it in a PM, I'll decide.
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post #4 of 326
12/12/07 at 7:07pm
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When: Thursday, December 13th - Friday, December 21st
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post #5 of 326
12/12/07 at 7:21pm
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EvilTwin brought up an interesting point, that I completely glossed over while trying to make this accessible yet varied.

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I don't want to be really obscure, but I'd make the case that any character that originated in Heavy Metal, Lone Wolf and Cub (heck, they even had a cameo in Samurai Jack), Akira, TinTin, and probably a dozen anime imports that I'm forgetting aren't obscure.
He's right and I'll allow it. I just don't want to see crap like Captain Vishnu and his Eight Arms To Hold You.
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post #6 of 326
12/12/07 at 7:33pm
so call me a n00b, or greenhorn or whatever. I have never done a draft or anything before, do we EACH pick a hero and villain per day or does just one person get to pick each day? Any specific rules and etiquette would be greatly appreciated.
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post #7 of 326
12/12/07 at 7:34pm
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Each person will pick a hero and a villain during their turn a day.
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post #8 of 326
12/12/07 at 7:44pm
thanks for clarifying
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post #9 of 326
12/12/07 at 7:49pm
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Not a problem. I thought I made it clear in the original thread and up top. But, it's better to get the questions out of the way now.
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post #10 of 326
12/12/07 at 7:52pm
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Originally Posted by Rob Hughes
The hero and villian we pick each day don't have to be part of the same comic or publisher do they? Like I could pick one from DC and one from Image as an example?
Exactly.


Hell, you could pick Archie Andrews and Baron Zemo.
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post #11 of 326
12/12/07 at 7:53pm
I won't be available for a couple of days during this period- I am bowing out. Please remove my name from the draft order. I hope I didn't fuck anything up- more Maxx for everyone else!
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post #12 of 326
12/12/07 at 7:59pm
I would like to susbtitute in for KABONG if possible.
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post #13 of 326
12/12/07 at 8:00pm
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It's not really that daunting. Kabong being out takes us back to the 16 people that splits properly into 4 groups. So, everything works out.
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post #14 of 326
12/12/07 at 8:01pm
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Originally Posted by EdHocken
I would like to susbtitute in for KABONG if possible.
I figured you would, Number 16.
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post #15 of 326
12/12/07 at 8:10pm
I'd be all over this draft were it not for the fact that a guy at my work had a heart attack recently, and I got roped into doing -his- job until January, effectively taking away my computer access from about 9:30am to anywhere from 3 to 5pm.. Mountain Standard.

Guess there's always next year.
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post #16 of 326
12/12/07 at 9:35pm
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Originally Posted by Rob Hughes
Ok, I really hope I don't mess this up for anybody. I've always wanted to participate in a draft but it always seemed so daunting in the past. Thanks for the quick response Anderson.
Don't worry, there's no way to mess this up for anybody. You just think up a list of the ones you want, and when it's your turn, you pick the best option. In the great scheme of things, whatever you pick doesn't mean anything, other than perhaps building some rep for yourself with your choices.

As I see it, there are two rules of drafting:

Rule 1 is simple: Pick what you want, and enjoy your list, and have fun with the anticipation of getting your next pick, and seeing what others choose

Rule 2 is tricky: Pick what you think others will respect, as there will be plenty of smack talk. Just be open to criticism, and remember that it's all in fun.
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post #17 of 326
12/12/07 at 10:22pm
Draft order?
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post #18 of 326
12/12/07 at 11:42pm
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Draft Order is coming tonight.

If you guys have a time of day preference, speak up now.
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post #19 of 326
12/13/07 at 1:40am
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Originally Posted by Eric C
I just got home from work and saw the draft order/time, and I absolutely cannot do it at 2:00-4:00. I've got a meeting that's been scheduled for two months at that time, and I doubt I'll be able to get anywhere near a computer before 5:00.

EDIT: I can do it earlier in the day, though. But it's up to you Anderson.

What time works for you, I'll swap around.
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post #20 of 326
12/13/07 at 1:45am
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Consider yourself swapped.

You're 10-Noon bracket now.
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post #21 of 326
12/13/07 at 1:48am
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Not a problem.

I'm taking to take into account everyone's time zone, based on when they hit up the site a lot.

That way, there's frequent movement and no long stalls to wait on people.
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post #22 of 326
12/13/07 at 2:16am
I don't mind swapping my earlier time to accommodate Eric C. Is there any chance I could instead be swapped to the noon-2 spot, just because my lunch is 1-2 and at 2pm my computer access is restricted. It is not impossible for me to do it later, so if it is a problem, do not worry about it. I am sure I speak for everyone when I say thanks for all your hard work and organization, Anderson.
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post #23 of 326
12/13/07 at 2:29am
What are the bounds for obscurity, e.g., could I pick the Awfully Dry Muffin from a Spiderman Hostess cup cake ad in the back of a comic?
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post #24 of 326
12/13/07 at 2:38am
I'll be out most of the morning/early afternoon, so it's quite o.k. to swap me later in the day. I've got my first rounders lined up and I'm fairly confident I'll get them anyways.
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post #25 of 326
12/13/07 at 11:14am
Do we go by order within the time slots or can anyone in a slot go once the time comes?
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post #26 of 326
12/13/07 at 11:57am
It's first come/ first served within groups once the time turns over or the earlier groups have completed their picks.
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post #27 of 326
12/13/07 at 12:21pm
I figured Batman, Superman, and Spider-Man would go top 3. Obvious, but deservedly so, choices. Almost funner to go later, although I'd have been all over Batman, than sooner.

Ozymandias is a sharp choice this early though.
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post #28 of 326
12/13/07 at 12:52pm
Had I gotten in first, I still would have gone with Spidey and Doom. I grew up reading Spidey in the 70s, and I was always able to better relate to him than Superman or Batman (who I flirted with slotting #1). Between the wise-cracking and the vulnerability, he always appealed to me more.

As for Doom, Dickson would be a fool to deny to power of Doom. Dickson would never dare to imply that Dickson did not believe Doom was the greatest villain of all time. For the price would be Dickson's soul!
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post #29 of 326
12/13/07 at 1:53pm
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Originally Posted by EvilTwin
I'll be out most of the morning/early afternoon, so it's quite o.k. to swap me later in the day. I've got my first rounders lined up and I'm fairly confident I'll get them anyways.

Anyone have issues with me swapping my 2-4 spot for evil twin's 12-2 spot since he isn't available? That way I can do my stuff on my lunchbreak. (right now I am using a fedex computer nobody realizes has no internet filters)
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post #30 of 326
12/13/07 at 1:56pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ExarKoontz
I don't mind swapping my earlier time to accommodate Eric C. Is there any chance I could instead be swapped to the noon-2 spot, just because my lunch is 1-2 and at 2pm my computer access is restricted. It is not impossible for me to do it later, so if it is a problem, do not worry about it. I am sure I speak for everyone when I say thanks for all your hard work and organization, Anderson.
Go at Noon-2, Exar.

The first two days will be working out what works best for everyone. Also, is anyone else having a hell of a time accessing the boards today?
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post #31 of 326
12/13/07 at 1:59pm
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Originally Posted by Anderson
Go at Noon-2, Exar.

The first two days will be working out what works best for everyone. Also, is anyone else having a hell of a time accessing the boards today?

Thanks anderson! Yeah, I too have been having trouble.
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post #32 of 326
12/13/07 at 2:08pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris O.
Based on the first three picks, I just have to ask if this is meant to be more a draft of superhero or similar heroic type characters than it is just comic book characters in general? I mean, are we eschewing indie stuff like "Ghost World" or Paul Pope's books? Or does that come down to the taste of the individual drafter? Not that my first few picks are any different, mind you, I'm just wondering.

It's all up to personal taste. That'll dictate how the draft as a whole will skew. Sorry, if it's taking me awhile to get back to you. The site is dragging ass for me.
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post #33 of 326
12/13/07 at 2:15pm
Deadpool

Everybody loves "The Merc with A Mouth". Violence and humor are a winning combination for me, and I have always loved his self-awareness as a comic book character.

Taskmaster

While lately he has been a bit more of an anti-hero, it always boils down to Taskmaster's allegiance being wherever the money is. Plus, Photgraphic Reflexes is one of the coolest abilities ever.
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post #34 of 326
12/13/07 at 2:18pm
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Once your bracket comes up, you can go at anytime between those two hours.

If anyone has time issues, list them in here. I'll be working out the schedule for tomorrow and beyond.
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post #35 of 326
12/13/07 at 2:30pm
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Once the site problems get sorted out, I'll put up a reference thread for what's been picked so far.

Do you all want a "Your Characters" thread or would you be cool without it?
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post #36 of 326
12/13/07 at 2:48pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Hughes
Doesn't matter to me, I just wish the boards weren't like molasses today. I keep getting timed out. Also, just to clarify, once everyone in a bracket goes, can the next bracket post or do they have to wait?
Once a bracket is done, the next bracket goes.

The site seems to picking up a little speed, so hopefully this will go better.
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post #37 of 326
12/13/07 at 2:57pm
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Thanks. Yorick Brown is easily my favorite comic character of the last 5 years. Expect to see another Vertigo character or two pop up tomorrow.
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post #38 of 326
12/13/07 at 3:14pm
Nightwing
Real Name: Richard John "Dick" Grayson
First Appearance: Detective Comics #38 (as Robin), Tales of the New Teen Titans #44 (as Nightwing)

Bullseye
Real Name: Lester (last name unrevealed)
First Appearance: Daredevil #131

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1) Dixon and McDaniel's ongoing is one of the series that got me WAY into comics, plus he's one of the cooler DCU characters (and the only true heir to Batman's mantle). Plus, Batman was taken. *glares at Eric*

2) When done right, he's one of the more interesting (albeit sadistic) villains in the MU roster. Plus, "never misses" is a cool power to have.
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post #39 of 326
12/13/07 at 3:20pm
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Really solid picks so far. I'm glad not to have seen Wolverine pop up yet.

Why I picked mine.

H1: Yorrick Brown - BKV made his name in comics by introducing a self-contained story about a wannabe magician who can't find his way in the world. When a killer virus levels society by eliminating 99.9% of men on the planet, Yorrick has to step up. Playing on conceptions of masculinity and the Battle of the Sexes, Brown steps up as a new kind of hero in the four color world. The hapless slacker who discovers that he can change the world without using webbing or gamma radiation.

V1: The Kingpin - Tony Soprano doesn't have shit on Fisk. A self-made man in every sense of the word, Fisk has known nothing but misery in his life. Whether it be his shitty childhood, his son trying to murder him or the loss of his only love Vanessa...Fisk has turned his bitterness into a crushing Criminal Empire.
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post #40 of 326
12/13/07 at 3:28pm
Fuck. I didn't see this until today. Oh well.
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post #41 of 326
12/13/07 at 3:38pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Martianman
Fuck. I didn't see this until today. Oh well.

If you still want in, we have special guest room. I'll allow in three more people to make an even 20.

Get drafting and we'll give you a proper time slot tomorrow.
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post #42 of 326
12/13/07 at 3:41pm
Anderson, GREAT pick on Yorrick, I too have a serious BkvONER.

BTSMGL, Bullseye was also a wise choice, I had him on my shortlist as well.

I am seriously enjoying this.
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post #43 of 326
12/13/07 at 3:45pm
I remember picking Nightwing in the last comic character draft because Batman was gone and I wanted the next best thing. I was trying to draft a cohesive superhero team and wanted a leader.
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post #44 of 326
12/13/07 at 3:52pm
Love both of Rob Hughes' picks this round.
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post #45 of 326
12/13/07 at 4:11pm
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post #46 of 326
12/13/07 at 4:55pm
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Hey Sun. Etrigan kind of walks the line.

Why do you consider him to be a villain?
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post #47 of 326
12/13/07 at 5:08pm
HULK SMASH all your puny superheroes.

Gotta start with common characters. I just wish my first villian wasn't tainted by a piss-poor movie translation. Or, depending on your taste, my hero, as well.
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post #48 of 326
12/13/07 at 5:28pm
I'm sorry, real work is getting out of control here, I may not be able to participate after all. IT WAS SUPPOSE TO BE A SLOW WEEK!!!
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post #49 of 326
12/13/07 at 5:29pm
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You can go later in the day if that helps out, no one's binding ye to these timely confines.

That goes for anyone. Let me know in here, if a time doesn't work for you.
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post #50 of 326
12/13/07 at 5:48pm
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Originally Posted by Anderson
If you still want in, we have special guest room. I'll allow in three more people to make an even 20.

Get drafting and we'll give you a proper time slot tomorrow.
Ok, I picked. Can't believe Cap was still there. Ya buncha commies.
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