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post #51 of 326
12/13/07 at 5:56pm
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Originally Posted by Anderson
You can go later in the day if that helps out, no one's binding ye to these timely confines.

That goes for anyone. Let me know in here, if a time doesn't work for you.
I think I'll just watch this time when I have an off moment, then I'll participate next time. I was gonna pick Madman and the Rat Creatures anyway, those are probably too obscure for this.
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post #52 of 326
12/13/07 at 5:57pm
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Cool, I'll update the roster to have MM fill in for Gabe.
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post #53 of 326
12/13/07 at 6:00pm
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Nice to see Black Adam go early. Even with all the recent Marvel stuff with Captain A, I still wouldn't have used him first round
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post #54 of 326
12/13/07 at 6:11pm
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I've always been a sucker for the Marvel Family. It just kills me that they can take Adam to new levels of greatness, yet the others are left to be Didio Droppings.
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post #55 of 326
12/13/07 at 6:11pm
Just posted my two.



Currently the lead character in the only comic series I buy as of late. The man given the unexplainable power to "talk" to machines. Hangs up the suit after saving untold lives during 9/11 and becomes mayor of one of the biggiest cities in the world. There's something about seeing a regular intelligent guy given extroadinary abilities but going about it a different way than others would.



The most powerful human of the DCU, ran the largest corporation of the world, has a city created practically in his own image (and rebuilt another), was President and is the most dangerous adversary to one of the most powerful beings of the DCU.
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post #56 of 326
12/13/07 at 6:12pm
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Great picks, even though I'm not a huge Ex Machina fan.

Luthor is still the greatest comic villain ever.
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post #57 of 326
12/13/07 at 6:14pm
Yeah, I was really struggling for a villian for a little bit and I was surprised no one had picked him yet.
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post #58 of 326
12/13/07 at 6:47pm
While it's not my call. My thinking is that if you pick a character, you're picking that character and not their Elseworld's or What-If Version. Although if you really wanted to, I imagine you could pick say Scarlet-Spider since that was a seperate character (Don't start with the Clone Saga stuff please) but not necessarily Batmankof or Communist Superman.
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post #59 of 326
12/13/07 at 6:47pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric C
If someone picks a character, does that infer they own all iteriations of the character, or can we still choose alternate universe versions?

I'll allow Era Specifications.
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post #60 of 326
12/13/07 at 6:49pm
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Originally Posted by Eric C
If someone picks a character, does that infer they own all iteriations of the character, or can we still choose alternate universe versions?
I would say that since we're including real identities and first appearances, different incarnations would be kosher, since they can be differentiated.
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post #61 of 326
12/13/07 at 6:50pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dickson
I would say that since we're including real identities and first appearances, different incarnations would be kosher, since they can be differentiated.

Correctomundo.
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post #62 of 326
12/13/07 at 6:51pm
That makese sense.
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post #63 of 326
12/13/07 at 7:04pm
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Originally Posted by Anderson
Hey Sun. Etrigan kind of walks the line.

Why do you consider him to be a villain?
Motivation -- his actions are good (mostly) as a side-effect of his circumstances. Like all of his folk, he'll twist and corrupt within his limitations to serve his ultimately evil/chaotic ends.

Like sysadmins.
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post #64 of 326
12/13/07 at 7:14pm
Rath has gone with two lawyers for his first pic. Interesting choice.
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post #65 of 326
12/13/07 at 7:21pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sunwukong
Motivation -- his actions are good (mostly) as a side-effect of his circumstances. Like all of his folk, he'll twist and corrupt within his limitations to serve his ultimately evil/chaotic ends.

Like sysadmins.
I see your point.

Rath snagged my second round villain pick. I'll have to go with the backup.
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post #66 of 326
12/13/07 at 7:24pm
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We've got two people left --- Ali and ?
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post #67 of 326
12/13/07 at 7:25pm
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Originally Posted by Eric C
Ozymandias
Sorry Lex. Sorry Joker. His diabolical plan actually worked.
I believe Rorschach would have something to say about that.
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post #68 of 326
12/13/07 at 7:28pm
You might as well put me in the last group tomorrow. I'll be without a computer from 8 am CST to at least 4 pm CST.
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post #69 of 326
12/13/07 at 7:33pm
So, what Comic-publisher aficionado would you all clasify yourselves as?

Me: make mine Marvel.

Back in the day, I only read Marvel. I started collecting in the late 70's, tapered off in the mid-80's, and stopped in the early 90's. Now I read a few hard cover collections of various publishers, and go to Comic-Com every year.
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post #70 of 326
12/13/07 at 8:37pm
I would return a few days late and a buck fifty short, wouldn't I?
If someone drops out, can I be an alternate!?
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post #71 of 326
12/13/07 at 9:08pm
heh, forget the alternate...whose leg do I have to hump to get in on this?
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post #72 of 326
12/13/07 at 9:11pm
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Originally Posted by Chris Allen
[B]I just wish my first villian wasn't tainted by a piss-poor movie translation.

but you should be glad he is one of the best internet memes EVER
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post #73 of 326
12/13/07 at 9:19pm
Yeah, I'm a pretty Marvel-leaning person, but I'm going to try and keep my stuff balanced.

And speaking of era/etc., I was just putting "1st appearance" like everyone else. Did I need to specify "Civil War Cap" or something like that? I just figured it was Cap for the duration. Iron Man I could see by noting what armor he's using, or even "Weapon X" vs. Wolverine. Or as mentioned, the elseworlds versions of heroes (Red Son of Krypton vs. Superman vs. Son of Darkseid).
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post #74 of 326
12/13/07 at 9:34pm
My thinking when it comes to eras is say for example Silver Age Green Laturn or Golden Age Flash (The Pastra Strainer hat days if I'm not mistaken)

Captain America much like Batman much like Iron Man has pretty much been the same character over the ages.

However you could go with Golden Age Human Torch (A Robot) or regular Human Torch.
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post #75 of 326
12/13/07 at 9:40pm
This will get pretty convulted pretty quickly if you start doing different versions of the characters. For the record, Guy Gardner Green Latern would totally own all the others.
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post #76 of 326
12/13/07 at 9:45pm
Not necessarily. I say keep it within reasonable bounds. I wouldn't break into for example Six Arm Spider-man v. Shinny Armor Spider-man v. Man-Spider those are current variations of the character. As opposed to distinct eras such as Golden Age and Silver Age versions of current characters. I.e. Green Latern and Sandman. Golden and Silver Age Batman or Superman wouldn't apply because despite origin differences they are essentially the same characters today.
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post #77 of 326
12/13/07 at 9:52pm
In terms of story yes. In terms of this draft I wouldn't because they're essentially the same characters. Unless there's a distinct difference between regular and Ultimate I say it stays the same.
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post #78 of 326
12/13/07 at 10:06pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Proyas
I would return a few days late and a buck fifty short, wouldn't I?
If someone drops out, can I be an alternate!?
Since, it's still First Day and end of round.

Go ahead and draft. What time slot would you like for the rest of the Draft?
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post #79 of 326
12/13/07 at 10:09pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EdHocken
My thinking when it comes to eras is say for example Silver Age Green Laturn or Golden Age Flash (The Pastra Strainer hat days if I'm not mistaken)

Captain America much like Batman much like Iron Man has pretty much been the same character over the ages.

However you could go with Golden Age Human Torch (A Robot) or regular Human Torch.

Ed gets it.

EX.

Captain America (Regular MU)
Captain America (Ultimate Universe)

Human Torch (Golden Age)
Human Torch (F4)
Human Torch (Ultimate F4)

Superman (Golden Age)
Superman (Silver Age)
Superman (Byrne Era/Post Infinite Crisis)

Green Lantern (Hal)
GL (Alan Scott)
GL (John Stewart)
GL (Guy Gardner)
and so on
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post #80 of 326
12/13/07 at 10:46pm
if everyone hadn't already made one pick, I would have dared someone to make an all Green Lantern team.
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post #81 of 326
12/14/07 at 1:24am
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I could've easily gone the entire draft without Wolverine.
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post #82 of 326
12/14/07 at 1:26am
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Originally Posted by Anderson
Really solid picks so far. I'm glad not to have seen Wolverine pop up yet.
-eep-
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post #83 of 326
12/14/07 at 1:30am
Yeah, I noticed he hadn't been taken so I did the deed. Neither of those picks were the first characters that sprung to mind but I went through the list of who's been taken and figured it was worth a shot.

I can see why people would be against Wolverine, but he's Wolverine. I personally hate Spiderman alot so....different strokes.
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post #84 of 326
12/14/07 at 1:32am
as for time slots, I'm easy whenever after 9pm EST (being a West Coaster)
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post #85 of 326
12/14/07 at 1:35am
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Wolverine's been overexposed since 1991. He's not going away, it's just that there's a ton of better characters out there.

I missed Gabe's comment before about us not knowing Madman or the Rat Creatures from Bone.

The early rounds will skew more Big 3 centric. The indie people will get their day in the sun.
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post #86 of 326
12/14/07 at 1:45am
I stopped buying comics in 1993 and though he was over-exposed by then, I've been detached for nearly 15 years...so maybe I notice it less.

He's not even my favorite X-Man, let alone favorite character in comics but I figure others will slip to later rounds.
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post #87 of 326
12/14/07 at 2:06am
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I like the X-Men and when they've got a great writers, it's the book to beat.

It's just that Wolverine has become this Marvel catch-all at the cost of the Lee/Kirby creations.
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post #88 of 326
12/14/07 at 6:18am
I'd say that if the character has the same secret identity, it's one version, regardless of era. So the 1950s Superman would be the same as the 1990s Superman for the purposes of this draft. But the Tim Drake Robin would be different from the Jason Todd Robin.
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post #89 of 326
12/14/07 at 10:52am
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson
I'd say that if the character has the same secret identity, it's one version, regardless of era. So the 1950s Superman would be the same as the 1990s Superman for the purposes of this draft. But the Tim Drake Robin would be different from the Jason Todd Robin.
I agree. Same I would say with all of the Multiverse incarnations. Ultimate Spiderman and 616 Spiderman are both Peter Parker.
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post #90 of 326
12/14/07 at 11:20am
Later in the evening? damnit!
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post #91 of 326
12/14/07 at 12:20pm
The Walt Simonson run on Thor is one of my favorite comic runs ever. I loved how they left behind all the Earth stuff and concentrated on Asgard and the actual Norse mythology. And Simonson's style really worked with the other-wordliness of the stories.

And hell, if I got Spidey, I have to have the Goblin.
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post #92 of 326
12/14/07 at 12:25pm
I was a little shocked too. I even had someone else lined up and while looking for the Spidey cover I posted in the picks thread I saw that Goblin cover and thought, "He has to have been picked, right?" Glad to see I was wrong.
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post #93 of 326
12/14/07 at 12:41pm
Are you "Thor" at me or "Green" with envy?
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post #94 of 326
12/14/07 at 12:48pm
I had him in the last comic draft, he was my Superman, basically.
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post #95 of 326
12/14/07 at 1:09pm
Goblin crossed my mind when I was going to pick, but I guess I was looking for the villian who believes in their cause rather than the homicidal type.
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post #96 of 326
12/14/07 at 1:14pm
Sooooo, we are going with alternate reality versions of the same character then?

I gotta start digging.
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post #97 of 326
12/14/07 at 1:18pm
The Hood was going to be my pick today, but I haven't read this weeks New Avengers, so I decided against it. Which is good cause Eric C snatched him up anyway! Great Choice.
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post #98 of 326
12/14/07 at 1:23pm
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Originally Posted by Proyas
Sooooo, we are going with alternate reality versions of the same character then?

I gotta start digging.
From the way I read it, if I pick the classic Steve Rogers Captain America, then that covers the Ultimates version and any other Steve Rogers Captain America in any alternate reality (like Earth X). But Steve Rogers as Nomad or US Agent would be fair game, as would any non-Steve Rogers Captain America.
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post #99 of 326
12/14/07 at 1:25pm
That's my thinking seeing how the Ultimate and regular characters are pretty similar in nature.
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post #100 of 326
12/14/07 at 1:31pm
The reason I ask is because of the Cap picks in Round 1 and Round 2.

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Originally Posted by Martianman
Hero:

Captain Fucking America
Real Name: Steve Rogers
1st appearance: Captain America Comics #1 (March 1941)

Villain:

Black Adam
Real Name: Teth-Adam
1st appearance: The Marvel Family # 1 (December, 1945)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric C
Ultimate Captain America
Real Name: Steve Rogers
Debut Comic: Ultimates #1

The Hood
Real Name: Parker Robbins
Debut Comic: The Hood #1
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