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A political prisoner right here in the US and A

post #1 of 16
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The short version is that Don Siegelman, Democratic governor of Alabama from 1999 to 2003, ran for reelection against Republican challenger Bob Riley. When the polls officially closed, Siegelman was ahead by something like 1500 votes. In the night, after the polls had closed, after the press and the bipartisan poll watchers had gone home, a small group of Republicans recounted the vote in one county. While this closed-door recount didn't affect any of the other issues on the ballot, something like 3000 votes were "discovered" that tipped the election to the Republican. And the ballots were sealed such that it would take a court order to open them.

When Siegelman woke up the next morning, Bob Riley was governor of Alabama, and while he didn't challenge the decision, he spoke publicly about his doubts about the authenticity of the election, thus becoming targeted with a campaign by the politically connected Republican prosecutors, Republican judges and none other than Karl Rove for investigations and charges, most of which got thrown out of court or for which he was absolved.

But they managed to make one stick -- that Siegelman appointed a political donor to a post on a medical panel ... except that the donations didn't go to him but to an education fund, and previous Governors had appointed the same person to the same position.

So now Siegelman is in Federal prison, and has a gag order that prevents him from speaking publicly about his case.

The best (and almost only reporting) on this is at RawStory.com and is a must-read. It's much more involved than what's in this post and it's very real and pretty scary. Part one is here.

post #2 of 16
What's worse is that you could ask 1000 random people on the streets of Birmingham about this, you might find a handful of people who know anything about this.

edit: It also might be interesting to point out that the possibility of an election scandal in 02 was never brought up during last year's election.
post #3 of 16
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It's hard to believe that this actually happened here, but it's the old "if a tree falls in the woods..." scenario. I've been hearing about it on Thom Hartmann's show - he had one of the reporters covering this on a couple of times. The whole thing feels like something out of the The Sopranos.
post #4 of 16
Yeah, I heard about this case. And it didn't bother me because, obviously, if he isn't guilty he wouldn't be there. Since power is never, ever abused. Ever.
post #5 of 16
Isn't it nice to live in the land of the free.
post #6 of 16
Good news today.

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2008/03/...ased_from.html

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MONTGOMERY -- A federal appellate court today ordered former Gov. Don Siegelman released from prison while he appeals his 2006 conviction, but denied co-defendant Richard Scrushy's request to be released.

Siegelman attorney Vince Kilborn said Siegelman would be released sometime Friday morning. "His wife and his daughter, Dana, are driving out to get him," Kilborn said.

Scrushy attorney Art Leach said he had been told the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals denied Scrushy's request, but had no more details this evening.

Siegelman has been in an Oakdale, La., prison camp for nearly nine months. A federal jury in 2006 convicted Siegelman and Scrushy of federal funds bribery. Prosecutors alleged Scrushy bought a seat on a state board with a $500,000 donation to Siegelman's lottery campaign.

The judges wrote that Siegelman met both requirements for an appeal bond: He is not a flight risk and his appeal raises a substantial question of law or fact likely to result in reversal or an order for a new trial.

"After thorough review of this complex and protracted record, we conclude Siegelman has satisfied the criteria set out in the statute, and has specifically met his burden of showing that his appeal raises substantial questions of law or fact," the judges wrote.

The court did not elaborate on what those questions were. Siegelman's lawyers, among other issues, have argued prosecutors didn't prove that Siegelman and Scrushy struck a "quid pro quo" deal to swap the money for the appointment.

U.S. Judges Susan H. Black and Stanley Marcus wrote the four-page order.

U.S. District Judge Mark Fuller ordered Siegelman and Scrushy directly to prison after their sentencing last summer. Siegelman, who was also convicted on an obstruction of justice charge, was sentenced to seven years and four months in prison. Scrushy was sentenced to six years and 10 months.

The court had denied Scrushy's appeal bond, but his lawyers asked the court to reconsider and offered to pledge all of his assets as assurance he will not flee. Leach said he learned today that request had been denied.

Kilborn said today's order to release Siegelman is "a big win in a very long war. It's a good feeling." Now, he said attorneys will be working to have Siegelman's conviction reversed.
post #7 of 16
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Congress needs to hold hearings about this, because something is seriously wrong in a country where someone can be so publicly and handily disappeared and the media turns a blind eye.
post #8 of 16
Seems guilty to me. Which doesn't mean he didn't get screwed in the election.

**Keep in mind that I believe the number of politicans in this country who haven't illegally abused their authority at some point is essentially zero.
post #9 of 16
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He was convicted for allegedly taking a bribe from an individual they said wanted a spot on a hospital board that he had already been on for years and the money did not go to Siegelman personally, it went to a charity, I believe, that he was associated with.

Overlord, please look at the affiliations of the people who had him framed (posted above and linked to) and you'll see that this is a VERY irregular and highly questionable prosecution. Then look at how he was treated after being convicted - is that normal for the kind of white collar crime he was framed for?
post #10 of 16
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He was convicted for allegedly taking a bribe from an individual they said wanted a spot on a hospital board that he had already been on for years and the money did not go to Siegelman personally, it went to a charity, I believe, that he was associated with.

Overlord, please look at the affiliations of the people who had him framed (posted above and linked to) and you'll see that this is a VERY irregular and highly questionable prosecution. Then look at how he was treated after being convicted - is that normal for the kind of white collar crime he was framed for?
I don't have the file in front of me and I'm not a prosecutor or defense attorney working on the case. I'm working on articles and suppositions. I'm just a random attorney commenting on a message board.This is just my shotgun, off the cuff opinion, and I may be wrong. As far as I know, politicans often arrange payments to charities or political organizations, rather than to their names directly, and this smells of that type of shenanigan.

I didn't say he wasn't unfairly singled out, or treated extraordinarily harshly, or not given the benefit of "innocent until proven guilty."
post #11 of 16
Here's the 60 Minutes Report from last month (article and video).
post #12 of 16
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From the New York Times:
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The House Judiciary Committee asked the Justice Department Thursday to temporarily release former Alabama Gov. Don Siegelman from prison in early May to testify before Congress about possible political influence over his prosecution.

A spokeswoman for the committee said Siegelman, a Democrat serving more than seven years in a Louisiana prison, would travel to Washington under guard of the U.S. Marshals Service. She said Committee Chairman John Conyers, a Michigan Democrat, believes Siegelman could provide important information about Justice Department practices under President Bush.
post #13 of 16
Not to be a total asskiss, but good to see you back, yt. You were missed.
post #14 of 16
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Not to be a total asskiss, but good to see you back, yt. You were missed.
Thank you, Jake. Work has interfered with my message-boardin' lately.

ps. Not unsurprisingly, once again, all roads lead to Rove.
post #15 of 16
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Not to be a total asskiss, but good to see you back, yt. You were missed.
I'll second the thanks for the update. As a former resident of Alabama, I'm quite interested in the result. Alabama's crooked state government history goes way,way,way back.
post #16 of 16
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I'll second the thanks for the update. As a former resident of Alabama, I'm quite interested in the result. Alabama's crooked state government history goes way,way,way back.
This is one really good result of the internet -- it can shed substantial light on local stories which have been buried under the deepest darkest rock, like this one. There was very very little reportage about Siegelman anywhere in Alabama.
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