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AVP 3 - In Space

post #1 of 47
12/20/07 at 5:06am
Thread Starter 
So if the brothers Strausse are succesful with AVP - R they would like to go to space with the next entry.

What should it be about?

Here's my idea:

The action should take place in a space colony ship. You know one of those 10 mile long and 5 mile wide selfsustained places. The colony has been floating around under repair for years and a large section of the end is sealed off due to a catastrophic breach years back.

Now the rest of the ship serves as a scientific lab and a place for colonial marines to have a little R&R in between missions.

The ship is cylendrical (spelling?) and in its midst we have a huge "green" area. This used to be the gardens for harvest but now it's an overgrown jungle. The small amount of people on the ship get their resourses from other ships now.

Which leads me to the opening scene:

We should see the camera move along the side of a spaceship (like we have seen so many times before) but after a while we get to the nameplate and it says "Nostromo".

We move past the windows of the control and we can see the silhouettes of people moving around. The camera moves back and reveals that the Nostromo is attached to the bulk of a huge ship, the aforementioned colonyship.

Nostromo is taking of but before she is gone the human voice of a woman is heard greeting the colonyship goodbye. Could this have been Ripley???

I think it could be a fun little nod to the earlier franchise.

Now I don't know where to go from there, but inside the colonyship we have ideal conditions for AVP-VMarines action. We have jungle for the predator and the claustrophobic hallways and aircondition stuff for the aliens. We have marines and pulserifles and scientists as alien fodder.

What do you think?
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post #2 of 47
12/20/07 at 5:34am
I guess after four Alien films and two AVP films someone should so something with the xenomorphs aside from treating them like just roaming pack of wolves/raptors (even if that's what they pretty much are).

I don't know WHAT, but I guess they deserve it by now.

Actually, just take them back efficiently to their horror roots like the first two films. They keep trying, but they always fall back into sci-fi Jurassic Park.

If they carry a zoo onboard, you could start bringing in varied forms of xeno's. There was this red bull xenomorph toy that I always thought looked cool. Mix it up a bit!
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post #3 of 47
12/20/07 at 5:51am
It starts and ends with the Peter Briggs script. How shit scripts get picked over that good I am Legend or AvP script are beyond my simple understanding.
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post #4 of 47
12/20/07 at 5:57am
Thread Starter 
I would definately want them to decrease the number of aliens and predators in a third sequel. But still, I also want those pulseriffles to have their show.
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post #5 of 47
12/20/07 at 12:02pm
I think they should just say fuck it and reboot. Remake Alien.
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post #6 of 47
12/20/07 at 12:14pm
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Originally Posted by Devildoubt
I think they should just say fuck it and reboot. Remake Alien.
With CW stars and Abercrombie & Fitch models.
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post #7 of 47
12/20/07 at 12:20pm
Well, if Veronica Mars wanted to get down on the action, I wouldn't say 'no'.
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post #8 of 47
12/20/07 at 12:50pm
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Originally Posted by Cervaise
With CW stars and Abercrombie & Fitch models.
Hell yes. Glistening, greased, tanned, sexy stars and starlets. With slow-mo ab and ass shots.

Blockbuster, here we come...
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post #9 of 47
12/20/07 at 1:14pm
THIS STORY:



STARRING:


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post #10 of 47
12/20/07 at 1:19pm
Mmmm. I'd lick that tasty spoon of cinema delight.
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post #11 of 47
12/20/07 at 1:41pm
What I'm still yearning for is one last Alien film, as I don't feel the series got a proper send-off. Nevermind that there is very much for me to gripe with about Alien ROARRRsurrection, but I wanted an official ending with the Ripley character and a factoring in of the Alien homeworld.

A Predator 3 would be cool, but we've basically gotten that from the two AvP's, since it was a sort of film-by-film basis with the Predator, with no solid story to follow (just various hunting expeditions).
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post #12 of 47
12/20/07 at 1:44pm
Bring in the Navigators.
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post #13 of 47
12/20/07 at 1:49pm
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Originally Posted by Chris Myers
Bring in the Navigators.
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Awesome.

Haven't the Leprechaun, Critters, and Hellraiser franchises taught us anything? Can't go to space till at least #4!
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post #14 of 47
12/20/07 at 2:08pm
If it has to be in space, make it start out in an alien ship. I want to see one of those big fucking aliens (the navigator for the crashed ship on LV-426) get beat down. Fuck humans.

If they had balls, they'd make it a movie without the human element, and give us Predator subtitles. That's the movie I want.
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post #15 of 47
12/20/07 at 4:21pm
Add Ash. Because I just don't care anymore.
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post #16 of 47
12/20/07 at 7:40pm
fleed-baiter...
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post #17 of 47
12/20/07 at 7:48pm
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Originally Posted by Rob Hughes
But if we're gonna have a 3rd AVP movie, like Kabong said, add Ash, Freddy, Jason, Ice Cube as Ice Cube, Van Damme, Dwight Schrute, and Alf.
I think you're on to something.

I wanna see JCVD VS ALF... STAT!
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post #18 of 47
12/20/07 at 7:51pm
Bringing Ash in is brilliant, and hardly unfitting for this series anymore.
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post #19 of 47
12/20/07 at 9:33pm
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Ah c'mon, give this sequel a chance before you give up on the franchise altogether. It might be a shit movie but I have some hope. At least the directors have the right attitude towards the movies.

I think some people make the mistake of comparing the AVP universe to that of either Alien or Predator if you know what I mean. This franchise is supposed to be a lot more "cartoony". I'm all for a new entry in the Alien/Predator universe but don't expect to find it in an AVP movie.
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post #20 of 47
12/20/07 at 10:09pm
These movies didn't need to be cartoony. It's been said a million times, but marines, aliens, and predators in the same movie would work great as an aliensesque roller coaster. A distant jungle planet for the predators, an LV426 colony compound for the aliens to fester in, and a bunch of humans fighting for their lives. That's my wet dream.

The real problem with this franchise is that the temptation to pull things into cheesy goofy stupid range is powerful. Like the Alien and Predator face off in the first AVP. It felt like a wrestling match for Christs sake.
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post #21 of 47
12/20/07 at 11:16pm
If they should do another AvP, I think it'd be much much more interesting for them to just think up a third species lurking around the universe that threatens the Predators and Aliens and of course us. They'll get that mysterious creepy factor from Alien and Predator where we didn't know what exactly was fucking killing people. But then again that sounds a little like AvP-R

Then of course, why not have a few alien/new species hybrids running around near the end. Have someone with a damn chihuahua dog that gets facehugged and we'll have this creepy munchkin dog alien running around.

Then have a twist that the new species is actually a differently evolved version of humans. hahaha.
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post #22 of 47
12/21/07 at 12:53am
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Originally Posted by Detonathor
Batman!

No, not really.
There's actually a nifty xenomorph born/burst from a crocodile in that one. It's friggin' huge.
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post #23 of 47
12/21/07 at 6:08pm
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Originally Posted by YellowHare
Nevermind that there is very much for me to gripe with about Alien ROARRRsurrection, but I wanted an official ending with the Ripley character...
Watch Alien 3.

Right now, the only way to keep the Alien franchise going is keep it on ice for a few years and reboot using a completely different creature design and lifecycle.

The humane thing to do would be letting it die, of course. Fox has once again proven that it can't sustain a Sci-fi franchise and went Planet of the Apes on this series.
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post #24 of 47
12/22/07 at 12:49am
When your wish is to bring back the pulserifles, as a pivot point within your film, you have it all wrong.

As far as a green room within a so-called 'Nostromo', I say "yawn." Joss Whedon's original Alien Resurrection treatment featured a deck devoted to corn or whatever the fuck that hack of a writer thought up.

The original treatment for ALIEN3 also included a 'green area.' This idea is as tired as they come.

I desire an end to the Ripley saga, a proper close made by a proper director. I hope it happens before miss Weaver is too old.
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post #25 of 47
12/22/07 at 1:37am
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Originally Posted by J.M. PRATER
When your wish is to bring back the pulserifles, as a pivot point within your film, you have it all wrong.

As far as a green room within a so-called 'Nostromo', I say "yawn." Joss Whedon's original Alien Resurrection treatment featured a deck devoted to corn or whatever the fuck that hack of a writer thought up.

The original treatment for ALIEN3 also included a 'green area.' This idea is as tired as they come.

I desire an end to the Ripley saga, a proper close made by a proper director. I hope it happens before miss Weaver is too old.
I thought the Alien 3 ending was a proper close.
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post #26 of 47
12/22/07 at 3:19am
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Originally Posted by J.M. PRATER
I desire an end to the Ripley saga, a proper close made by a proper director. I hope it happens before miss Weaver is too old.
It's called Alien 3. Ripley -- the real Ripley -- isn't in Resurrection. Even if she has her thoughts, memories, and experiences, the character we followed in the early films still died a fiery death.
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post #27 of 47
12/22/07 at 10:08am
I came up with a story (I know haven't we all), with the proper Ripley & Hicks were pulled via a time warp into the far far future. The alien is extracted and they go home as the Alien queen slowly kills off the crew. There was a scene where Newt is found to be alive, but much older due to her being brought to the future first. It ended with Ripley crashing on the Predator home world. The alien embryo is moved from Ripley to another host which thus allowed the queen to be different. The only way to get the scare factor back is to have the alien change, and not be the same old expected thing. Hicks ends up going back in time oh wait this is a lie.
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post #28 of 47
12/22/07 at 11:02am
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Originally Posted by Quarant
So now the movie has 2 choices: either take time to properly set up the humans, thereby robbing us of much needed Alien-Predator fighttime OR they could bring in a person we already care for and are familiar with. This seems, to me, to be the much better option.
Who though? They're not going to bring back the Riplien from the fourth film, and you'd need a whole lot of convoluted hoop-jumping to fit anyone from Aliens into the film. So do you go to the first Predator film and try to rope Schwarzennegger into reprising his role? That doesn't seem likely.
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post #29 of 47
12/22/07 at 11:04am
I'm sure Bruce has no problem finding time in his schedule.
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post #30 of 47
12/22/07 at 3:04pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson
Who though?
Abbot & Costello vs Aliens vs Predator?
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post #31 of 47
12/22/07 at 6:15pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson
Who though? They're not going to bring back the Riplien from the fourth film, and you'd need a whole lot of convoluted hoop-jumping to fit anyone from Aliens into the film. So do you go to the first Predator film and try to rope Schwarzennegger into reprising his role? That doesn't seem likely.
Howbout any actor that has a tiny bit of name recognition, that we as the audience can fill in the gaps with character baggage they left us from the other movies we've seen them in.

I'd take that over "no name" underwear model, that doesn't even get character arc or development anyway.

See, this is something I think Resurrection got right... putting interesting faces in the roles, character actors, etc.

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Originally Posted by mastronikolas
Right now, the only way to keep the Alien franchise going is keep it on ice for a few years and reboot using a completely different creature design and lifecycle.
But then you'd have to call it XTRO or INSEMINOID or something. You change the defining characteristics of the xenomorph, and you may as well just be making an "original" concept.
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post #32 of 47
12/22/07 at 6:47pm
I agree, once again, with the Peter Briggs concept, which has yet to be truly exploited.

Bull aliens, Rhino aliens, panther aliens, monkey aliens... Aliens based on the guy found on his ship in Alien 1...
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post #33 of 47
12/24/07 at 4:30pm
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Originally Posted by Bitches Leave
So if the brothers Strausse are succesful with AVP - R they would like to go to space with the next entry.
That's what they say here.

A bit confused about the Predalien mandible comments in that link:

"Then with the mandibles, basically with the egg laying scenes, we wanted to match the mandibles on there so she could actually wrap around almost like a face hugger in a way, and grab people's faces as she's doing the impregnation."

Can the Predalien forgo the facehugger stage and impregnate all on its own? Is that what it's saying?
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Originally Posted by Domingo
I agree, once again, with the Peter Briggs concept, which has yet to be truly exploited.

Bull aliens, Rhino aliens, panther aliens, monkey aliens... Aliens based on the guy found on his ship in Alien 1...
Found the script here. Will sink my mandibles into it soonish (Holidays and all).
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post #34 of 47
12/27/07 at 1:02am
Keep it Simple: Aliens vs Predators vs Space Marines

Setting: A remote planet, A space jungle or the alien homeworld - either would work.

Must Haves: A good director and a great script
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post #35 of 47
12/27/07 at 1:12am
AVP3 in space? Can someone send up a shuttle with the Strausse Brothers, The Fox exec that greenlighted AVP:R, and Shane Salerno into space? Also, I would like to send each and every print of AVP and AVP:R into space.
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post #36 of 47
12/27/07 at 2:14am
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8
Can the Predalien forgo the facehugger stage and impregnate all on its own? Is that what it's saying?
Yes, sir, it can. They talked about it in Fangoria.
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post #37 of 47
12/27/07 at 8:30am
Remember, everyone, years ago Fox had a choice to either get with Cameron & Scott and make Alien 5--set on the alien homeworld--or make AVP. Aren't we glad how everything turned out?
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post #38 of 47
12/27/07 at 9:30am
If the ending of AVPR is any indication, the next one will be in space.
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post #39 of 47
12/27/07 at 9:15pm
Wonder if Shane Black would want to try his hand at an AVPR flick?
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post #40 of 47
12/27/07 at 10:38pm
Am i the only one who is fond of these two parts of theAVP media for adaptation?:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_v...arcade_game%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliens_versus_Predator_2

Seriously, how hard can it be to make a movie where a) Human colonists/corporation unleash an alien hive, b) Marines are deployed, c)Predators pop up looking for good hunting, d) all hell breaks loose.
Its a fairly easy formula, if you ask me.

The plot practically writes itself AND lends itself to make great action sequences...yet we are stuck with these lame, half assed attempts at making the franchises "hip" for the current movie going public's feeble mindset.
(Still havent seen AVP-R, and might never do either, at least if money is involved)
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post #41 of 47
12/27/07 at 10:49pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson
If the ending of AVPR is any indication, the next one will be in space.
I think you mean "If the reception of AVPR is any indication, the next one will be direct to video".
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post #42 of 47
12/27/07 at 11:07pm
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8
I think you mean "If the reception of AVPR is any indication, the next one will be direct to video".
Eh, all the 'real life' people I know (I have like four friends, promise) liked AVP-R. I'm not saying it's a Live Free or Die Hard like disconnect, where everyone on the internet hates it and everyone else seems to love it, but I don't think Requiem is hated amongst the general public.
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post #43 of 47
12/27/07 at 11:23pm
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Originally Posted by JohnnyZ
Wonder if Shane Black would want to try his hand at an AVPR flick?

How can Shane Black have a hand in a movie that's already been made?
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post #44 of 47
12/28/07 at 12:07am
Doh! I meant to write/say if there is another AVP flick..would he try his hand..

For my penance, I guess I'll have to watch AVPR.
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post #45 of 47
1/2/08 at 1:55pm
No more versus please. The first didn't hurt, but the second was outright horrible and a complete waste of time.

The only thing worse than AVP3 would be remakes of the first parts, but Fox hopefully respects the franchise enough to not try that. There could still be interesting new stories for each character.
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post #46 of 47
1/2/08 at 2:16pm
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Originally Posted by Chris Myers
...but Fox hopefully respects the franchise enough...
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post #47 of 47
1/2/08 at 5:30pm
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Originally Posted by ryoken
(Still havent seen AVP-R, and might never do either, at least if money is involved)
For me, a loved one will need to be at risk.
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