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Will Ryan Gosling Ever Make a Good Movie?

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Ummm...trick question?
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If Hopkins is on the docket, just say fuck it.
I don't know if that was meant to sound like Johnny Cochrane, but it worked.
post #4 of 53
Poor Rath.
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shhh...Pickman, I'm still holding out hope for 2 Lars 2 Girl.
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I enjoyed The Believer. But all of his performances felt like, well, you said it best Devin. "but never actually goes there".

I know I'm quoting out of context, but I feel that he takes roles or doesn't try hard enough that when he gets there with a character and then he doesn't bring it over the edge. (Damn that's an awful sentence.)
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*The beautiful Kelli Garner. I will never forgive this film for trying to make her plain.
Thanks, Google! She's like an "even hotter Voltron" of Mena Suvari and Agnes Bruckner. Or a younger Melissa George with a bigger chest and closeable mouth.
post #8 of 53
Goes right along with that Niger Lover shirt I have!
post #9 of 53
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Originally Posted by Cow Puncher
Lars and the Real Girl really should've been a "Real Doll comes to life and murders everyone in town." flick.
After being raped and humiliated for hours by his Realdoll's Realdoll boyfriend, John didn't even try to call the cops. They'd never believe him anyway.
post #10 of 53
I've never understood why no one, when talking about Lars and The Real Girl, ever mentions the excellent Love Object.

I remember seeing it at the Laemmle Fairfax and being knocked out by it.
post #11 of 53
Pwned!
post #12 of 53
LARS AND THE REAL GIRL is not meant to be a realistic take on the subject matter. It's more of a fable.

I understand not liking the movie. Or loathing it. Especially if you're a cynic at heart. But I think criticizing it for not being a realistic take on the subject is missing the forest for the trees.
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Originally Posted by EvilTwin
LARS AND THE REAL GIRL is not meant to be a realistic take on the subject matter. It's more of a fable.
Ha ha.

You liked "Lars and the Real Girl".
post #14 of 53
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Ha ha.

You liked "Lars and the Real Girl".
So did a lot of critics. Devin is a fine reviewer, but he's not the final word.

How many of the people who are jumping on the movie in this thread have actually seen it?
post #15 of 53
He was painfully awful in Fracture - and only slightly less awful in everything else I've seen him in. Half asleep coke-head pretty much sums up the impression I get from him.
post #16 of 53
Sums up my New Year's, too.
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FWIW, I think Devin's dislike of Ryan Gosling is of a similar vein to his dislike of Christian Bale. Especially the "I'm a serious actor" persona. I think we need a Bale/Gosling cop buddy movie just for Devin's benefit.
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Originally Posted by EvilTwin
FWIW, I think Devin's dislike of Ryan Gosling is of a similar vein to his dislike of Christian Bale. Especially the "I'm a serious actor" persona.
Yeah, but atleast Bale's not afraid of the pulp.
post #19 of 53
Ryan Gosling and Ben Foster look exactly the same. They should be in a twin brothers martial-arts movie.
post #20 of 53
I've always been impressed with Gosling but Lars is the first time I've actually liked him and loved watching him on screen. Whoever called it a fable hit it right on the nose. There's no way you could ever even attempt to have a story like this take place in a realistic context, unless it was 90 minutes of uncomfortable and sarcastic characters being weirded out by Lars. I'd run to the other side of the street if I saw a guy pushing around a wheelchair with Bianca in it, but in the world the movie created you really feel for the guy and want him to succeed.

I never wanted to see a movie about a sex doll from the director of Mr. Woodcock but praise from people I respect got me into the theater. Now it's hovering at the bottom of my top ten for the year. And as we all know, this was a good goddamn year.
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Originally Posted by Xion
Ryan Gosling and Ben Foster look exactly the same. They should be in a twin brothers martial-arts movie.
I smell a remake...

post #22 of 53
I always get this guy confused with Michael Pitt, hell I thought Gosling was in Hedwig and the Angry Inch until I checked IMDB.
post #23 of 53
If only there were a God, DARKMITES. If only...
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Originally Posted by EdHocken
I always get this guy confused with Michael Pitt, hell I thought Gosling was in Hedwig and the Angry Inch until I checked IMDB.
Then you must have had a really confusing time watching Murder by Numbers.
post #25 of 53
I've never been quite as impressed by him as some (Beaks referred to him as the new Brando recently, or something close to that effect), but I think his real drawback, which it's entirely fair game to criticize at this point, is his apparent inability to choose projects. I think he's an above average young actor, but he doesn't quite electrify in the way some of his counterparts do, and outside of "The Notebook" I don't think anyone is seeing his movies. Losing out on "The Lovely Bones" (and honestly, who believes that was a voluntary departure?) seems like a major setback.
post #26 of 53
I agree that Gosling seems to be confining himself to a narrow range. One with limited commercial appeal.

It seems like he wants to be taken so seriously as an actor that he doesn't want to take advantage of some of his gifts, like his good looks. In some ways it seems he wants to imitate Johnny Depp, playing a series of sensitive guys, without taking much for risks. He's doing What's Eating Gilbert Grape?, Dead Man, and Benny and Joon, and appearing scruffy while doing them, without going all out for Edward Scissorhands, Ed Wood, or Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas type roles because of a fear of looking foolish.
post #27 of 53
Lars was a movie that I was initially bored by but wound up thinking that Gosling was very, very good in it. The movie grew on me and I kept coming back to it after I saw it, so it wound up occupying a slot on my end of the year list. However, I think it's a movie that I need to watch again before finally making up my mind about it.

But I thought Gosling was really good, and, like Bateman, it was the first time I took notice of him as a serious actor. (Note: I have not seen The Believer or Half Nelson.)

That being said, I just got back from Juno, and if I were going to be an asshole and update my list again, which I probably will, Lars is getting bumped for Juno's slot.
post #28 of 53
I saw Ryan Gosling having lunch with two friends Christmas Eve at the Sherway Gardens mall here in Etobicoke (think it's technically there) - near Toronto. It took about 5 minutes for girls to swarm him for pictures...

Poor guy was just hungry and doing some last minute shopping
post #29 of 53
Will Devin ever stop bashing excellent actors just to get a rise out of the boards? I guess it's Ryan Gosling's turn now that Christian Bale is done getting whooped.

Anyway, I disagree. I love The Believer, Half Nelson, Lars and the Real Girl, and, yes, The Notebook. For a guy who just started doing movies in 2001, that's a pretty damn good record.
post #30 of 53
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Originally Posted by Supremo
Anyway, I disagree. I love The Believer, Half Nelson, Lars and the Real Girl, and, yes, The Notebook. For a guy who just started doing movies in 2001, that's a pretty damn good record.
See I don't necassarily agree. I haven't heard a new young actor lauded like Gosling seems to be since one Edward Norton came out of nowehere in Primal Fear. Lets look at Nortons first 6 years of film choices by comparison...

Primal Fear, The People vs. Larry Flynt, Everyone Says I Love You, Rounders, American History X, Fight Club, Keeping the Faith, The Score, Death to Smoochy, Frida, Red Dragon and finally 25th Hour.

So in that first six years of a serious acting career we have indies, star vehicles with the likes of Brando and DeNiro, a Woody Allen musical, a romantic comedy that Norton wrote and directed himself a Spike Lee joint, and a couple of films classed as cult classics.

Compared to Nortons first 6 years, I completely see where Devs coming from with this - one made a lot of very astute and incredible choices and the other is Ryan Gosling.
post #31 of 53
Gosling got beat up a lot in school. I have never meet anyone that went to school with him that doesn't hate him.
post #32 of 53
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Originally Posted by EvilTwin
So did a lot of critics. Devin is a fine reviewer, but he's not the final word.

How many of the people who are jumping on the movie in this thread have actually seen it?

I saw it and loved it. In my top 10 of the year.

As for Gosling's acting ability, his Lars performance may be my favorite of the year, but I've never seen him in anything besides that and Stay, which I loathed. I don't really remember his performance, I just kept thinking that the movie was one big ball of buttfuck.
post #33 of 53
He was very good in MURDER BY NUMBERS & FRACTURE, I'd also recommend him in THE SLAUGHTER RULE.
post #34 of 53
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Originally Posted by Pvt. Spunkmeyer
As for Gosling's acting ability, his Lars performance may be my favorite of the year
I hope you mean "favorite performance by Ryan Gosling this year."

If not, watch more movies.
post #35 of 53
I sat through lars and the real girl yesterday. it is a complete load of fake forced "indie" horseshit and everyone involved should be banned from making films for 2 years.i don't give a shit about its realism or if its a fable whatever it was trying to be it failed.

unless it was trying to be a fucking piece of garbage ... if thats the case then mission accomplished.

so fucking phoney.


but i saw "there will be blood" afterwards and that helped wash away the taste of lars.
post #36 of 53
I hope Lars fucks you instead of his Realdoll. Right in the shitter!

It is an excellent little film!
post #37 of 53
I think that ryan Goslin's star power remains undiminished by the unfortunate passing of his beloved relationship with rachel mcAdams, who never really deserved him. However, their temporary union of souls yielded the breathtaking Notebook.
post #38 of 53
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Originally Posted by Cogs of Fate
I hope you mean "favorite performance by Ryan Gosling this year."

If not, watch more movies.

Oh yeah, thanks. Don't know what I was thinking. Momentary lapse of judgment/reason/good taste. Glad someone that saw over 40 movies (yeah, I only saw 40 (give or take 2 or 3) movies this year. Fuck me, must've been only a small, insignificant fraction of what you've seen, Cogs) finally set me straight.

I was starting to get worried that I wouldn't get a snark for liking both the movie and his performance. After I left the comment last night I kept refreshing the page over and over hoping that someone, anyone would read my obvious cry for help and give me a good one. After an hour I gave up.

Well, you've just made my day Cogs. Took a little bit longer than I would've liked, but other than that no complaints.
post #39 of 53
Still don't know what the big deal about Gosling is. He can be a solid actor in the right project but all of these "greatest actor of his generation" and "new Brando" raves leave me completely befuddled.
post #40 of 53
He could easily be the next Edward Norton if given the chance, but Hollywood does not like risks.
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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog
See I don't necassarily agree. I haven't heard a new young actor lauded like Gosling seems to be since one Edward Norton came out of nowehere in Primal Fear. Lets look at Nortons first 6 years of film choices by comparison...

Primal Fear, The People vs. Larry Flynt, Everyone Says I Love You, Rounders, American History X, Fight Club, Keeping the Faith, The Score, Death to Smoochy, Frida, Red Dragon and finally 25th Hour.
To me, this seems like a very similar acting trajectory, at least quality wise. The only really great movies in this list are Larry Flynt, American History X, Fight Club, and 25th Hour. I'm sure Gosling would jump at the chance to work with some of the all time great directors if the opportunity came along.

As for stuff like The Score and Red Dragon...well, that's pretty much Fracture times two.
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Originally Posted by Don Piano
I think that ryan Goslin's star power remains undiminished by the unfortunate passing of his beloved relationship with rachel mcAdams, who never really deserved him. However, their temporary union of souls yielded the breathtaking Notebook.
Ha ha. Awesome.
post #43 of 53
No love for Leland?
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Originally Posted by Pvt. Spunkmeyer
Oh yeah, thanks. Don't know what I was thinking. Momentary lapse of judgment/reason/good taste. Glad someone that saw over 40 movies (yeah, I only saw 40 (give or take 2 or 3) movies this year. Fuck me, must've been only a small, insignificant fraction of what you've seen, Cogs) finally set me straight.
What is this mess?

I don't give a fuck if you like his performance, but if you think it was the best all year you need to watch more movies because you are wrong.

I'm not being snarky, I'm telling you things that are true.
post #45 of 53
I love when chewers see their own opinions and taste as essential truths.

Must help them get out of bed in the morning or something.
post #46 of 53
People stating opinions as facts makes the cogs of the internet go round and round.
post #47 of 53
I disagree, I actually thought Fracture was one of the more entertaining movies of the year, and he was quite good in it. I thought it was just a well-made old-fashioned thriller with good performances.
post #48 of 53
No its everywhere you're right - and I find it funny everywhere as well.
post #49 of 53
Why are people saying Gosling was good in Fracture? It was one of the strangest performances I've ever seen, and I don't mean that hyperbolically. I never finished it- but got a good laugh at Hopkins on again off again Irish accent (the fuck????)- but Gosling's character is constantly speaking in this whispery, Southern sounding voice, interrupted by this sort of nasally congested raspy tone. It's just odd.

And I thought Half Nelson was overrated. Nothing happens. There's no climax. No buildup to a climax. Or even much of an ending. Maybe another film could get away with that, but not this one. Half Nelson played more like a pretentious long winded music video for Broken Social Scene, who the filmmakers obviously love.

I did like The Believer though. Summer Phoenix was the best part though.
post #50 of 53
Half Nelson was a good movie, and Gosling was damn great in it.
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