Sorry to start a new thread on this but this literally blow the place apart.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mffpkCH-PJw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mffpkCH-PJw
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Originally Posted by Slater
Jesus, Sidious, don't chafe your knees while you're down there.
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Originally Posted by innsmouthlook81
Let's be honest, he didn't even answer the question though, did he?
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Originally Posted by DarthSidious
Soon the government will fuck you so bad you won't be able to escape at all.
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Originally Posted by yt
One thing you gotta love about Paul, though, is he's not a phony.
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Originally Posted by a typical Ron Paul supporter
He did answer the question. He said why wouldn't he be electable if he's the most conservative guy on stage and has the record to prove it? What he said was "I'm too Republican to get elected." Pretty much calling the mod out for making the suggestion for everyone.
He exposed all of them. |
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Originally Posted by DarthSidious
What he said was "I'm to republican to get elected?" Pretty much calling the mod out for making the suggestion for everyone.
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Originally Posted by Jacob Singer
He is a bit of fresh air in an extremely fetid swamp; it just sucks that he's batshit crazy.
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Originally Posted by DarthSidious
Why is he crazy??
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Originally Posted by DarthSidious
Why is he crazy??
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Originally Posted by Justin Bolivar
So, in all honesty, bullshit aside, I'd very much like you to tell me why he's the best candidate available. Then I'll give you my opinion.
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Originally Posted by Justin Bolivar
The reasons have been discussed ad nauseum with little input on your part on why he should be taken seriously. If you legitimately want a detailed answer, I'm more than willing to step up, but first I want you to spell out why he's the answer to America's problems. I don't want to waste my time writing a lengthy response that you retort with "Google Ron Paul."
So, in all honesty, bullshit aside, I'd very much like you to tell me why he's the best candidate available. Then I'll give you my opinion. |
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Originally Posted by DarthSidious
He doesn't want to gut social programs. First let's face the facts, social security and medicare is causing this country to go broke (we are broke already) we can not afford these programs.
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Originally Posted by DarthSidious
As far as seperation of church and state, he believes that.
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Originally Posted by DaveB
His position on abortion suggests otherwise.
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Originally Posted by DarthSidious
The dept of edu is a waste. Instead of money going to schools it goes to the dept then they allocate to the schools which causes alot of waste.
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Originally Posted by DarthSidious
The dept of edu is a waste. Instead of money going to schools it goes to the dept then they allocate to the schools which causes alot of waste.
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Originally Posted by The LD
Look, in general, I want to stay out of this debate. But, as a person who has studied the Constitution in some depth (though not nearly the depth required to have a reasonable understanding of what is a truly ridiculously complicated document), when I hear Ron Paul's supporters talk about how Paul "follows the Constitution", it sounds like a fifth grade science student talking about string theory.
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Originally Posted by DarthSidious
The dept of edu is a waste.
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Originally Posted by DarthSidious
Why does being pro-life mean he wants to integrate church and state? He looks at it as if a doctor injures a baby in the womb he is liable so the baby has rights. He wants the states to make the laws regarding that. So if every state kept abortion legal thats fiine. He just hates the FEDERAL government dictating to the states.
I myself am pro-choice but I would prefer if no one had abortions after 5-6 weeks. It's your moral choice to make. |
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Originally Posted by Ron Paul
"Pro-life libertarians have a vital task to perform: to persuade the many abortion-supporting libertarians of the contradiction between abortion and individual liberty…. A libertarian's support for abortion is not merely a minor misapplication of principle, as if one held an incorrect belief about the Austrian theory of the business cycle. The issue of abortion is fundamental, and therefore an incorrect view of the issue strikes at the very foundations of all beliefs…."
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Originally Posted by yt
If you want to eliminate waste, look no further than the defense department. We spend more on defense than all other countries combined.
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Originally Posted by Matt Goldberg
Libertarianism: Everything would be good if people were just good.
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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog
Isn't that also the philosophical basis behind those that support anarchism?
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Originally Posted by Ali Mohamed
Other reasons Ron Paul blows dicks aka Ali Mohamed's Official Reasons Why Ron Paul Is Batshit Crazy that He Managed To Find, Copy And Paste In Under A Minute:
* let a racist newsletter be published for twenty years in his name, and still employs the person who published it (one of whom heads his field office in Texas) even after finding out about it, even though he told everyone that he fired the people involved * gives interviews to white separatist organizations * describes immigrants as "not looking very American to me" * voted against the renewal of the 1964 Civil Rights Act * works with anti-psychiatry organizations because he doesn't believe in mental illness (including the CCHR, a Scientology front group) * describes the Constitution as "replete with references to God" (even though it is demonstrably not) * thinks that forced smallpox vaccinations are a bad thing even in the case of outbreak due to terrorist attack (which demonstrates a distinct lack of knowledge about how plagues work) * is a Creationist (jump to 2m 40s) * uses eliminationist rhetoric in his campaign mailings * votes against a medal for Rosa Parks but sponsors legislation for medals for soldiers who never saw combat during the Cold War * And finally, sponsored legislation to "strengthen the American family and promote the virtues of family life" by "prohibiting the expenditure of Federal funds to any organization which presents male or female homosexuality as an acceptable alternative life style or which suggest that it can be an acceptable life style", amongst other things |
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Originally Posted by Ali Mohamed
Other reasons Ron Paul blows dicks aka Ali Mohamed's Official Reasons Why Ron Paul Is Batshit Crazy that He Managed To Find, Copy And Paste In Under A Minute:
* let a racist newsletter be published for twenty years in his name, and still employs the person who published it (one of whom heads his field office in Texas) even after finding out about it, even though he told everyone that he fired the people involved * gives interviews to white separatist organizations * describes immigrants as "not looking very American to me" * voted against the renewal of the 1964 Civil Rights Act * works with anti-psychiatry organizations because he doesn't believe in mental illness (including the CCHR, a Scientology front group) * describes the Constitution as "replete with references to God" (even though it is demonstrably not) * thinks that forced smallpox vaccinations are a bad thing even in the case of outbreak due to terrorist attack (which demonstrates a distinct lack of knowledge about how plagues work) * is a Creationist (jump to 2m 40s) * uses eliminationist rhetoric in his campaign mailings * votes against a medal for Rosa Parks but sponsors legislation for medals for soldiers who never saw combat during the Cold War * And finally, sponsored legislation to "strengthen the American family and promote the virtues of family life" by "prohibiting the expenditure of Federal funds to any organization which presents male or female homosexuality as an acceptable alternative life style or which suggest that it can be an acceptable life style", amongst other things |
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Originally Posted by yt
"ps. I think you also have to consider that when he claims to be for a pure interpretation of the Constitution, how does he justify those articles about promoting the general welfare? You can't just pretend they're not there.
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Originally Posted by DarthSidious
As far as being a creationist, he never talks about his religion unless asked (unlike most politicians seeking office) BUT his own views do not influence his views on everyone's freedom.
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Originally Posted by Seabass Inna Bun
Then there's the racist publications and the willingness to interfere in the medical decisions of Americans and the attempt to hush up the fags in the name of 'strengthening' the American family (because gays are all foreign orphans, I suppose) and all that fun stuff that points toward his being as odious as the rest of the Republican offerings.
You can have him. |
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Originally Posted by Snaieke
Perhaps all the gays are foreign orphans from Iran? As there are no gays there.
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Originally Posted by DarthSidious
Ron Paul is not a damn racist...he often sites MLK and Rosa Parks as hero's for practicing civil disobedience. He believes everyone should be not seen in terms of groups (blacks, gays, whites,) but as individuals and every individual should be treated the same way.
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| In the Speaker's Lobby, Paul describes the federal airline security system as an extra-constitutional affront to civil liberties, and thinks security should be handled by the private sector. Then he takes a rather un-presidential jab at the appearance of many TSA screeners, a workforce heavily populated by minorities and immigrants. "We quadrupled the TSA, you know, and hired more people who look more suspicious to me than most Americans who are getting checked," he says. "Most of them are, well, you know, they just don't look very American to me. If I'd have been looking, they look suspicious ... I mean, a lot of them can't even speak English, hardly. Not that I'm accusing them of anything, but it's sort of ironic." |
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica
This is how he really feels, basically how do you want me to be convinced by your argument when he probably thinks I personally don't look "very American" to him?
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