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The Next Nightmare on Elm Street Project

post #1 of 27
1/12/08 at 4:23pm
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http://www.creature-corner.com/?type=news&id=3116

I'm not sure what it will be but the Freddy character will out live Robert Englund so maybe it isn't too early to get a replacement if they do go the remake route. It doesn't seem like the prequel will happen.
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post #2 of 27
1/12/08 at 4:31pm
It's Jude Law or it's nobody.
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post #3 of 27
1/12/08 at 5:13pm
You gave me a heart attack, VanNatter. At least it's basically an opinion piece.

Englund not being up to date on things has always been the norm. The man has never been full of wonderful knowledge on what the next film will be about, or who might direct it. Lack of knowledge here doesn't point towards recasting, it points toward "same shit, different day."

And looking at New Line's horror history, they've never really hopped on any trends with the Nightmare franchise, so I doubt they'd start now when they know they can make just as much money with the current series, then hit up a remake when Englund's sequels stop making money.
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post #4 of 27
1/12/08 at 8:26pm
The writer of that piece must be gay because he is fixated on penises. I give the writing a thumbs down.
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post #5 of 27
1/12/08 at 10:15pm
Experience the greatness of the deadly dinosaur.
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post #6 of 27
1/12/08 at 10:50pm
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Originally Posted by Rob Hughes
You need to go watch NOES 2 Don.
Or just watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=977jBCk5qBM
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post #7 of 27
1/13/08 at 4:14am
It's not too late to make a genuinely great "Nightmare On Elm Street" movie. And among the guys best suited for it, I think John McNaughton might be one of them- shame New Line isn't hearing him out.
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post #8 of 27
1/13/08 at 6:29am
New Line isn't interested in making good movies. I know this because security guards threw me out of the building after I tried to tattoo my storyline for a Nightmare prequel on Bob Shaye's ass.
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post #9 of 27
1/13/08 at 6:33am
Great article.

The problem with prequels is that they remove any mystique from a given story. Nothing is left to the audience's imagination, everything's spelled out. The only prequel that's ever worked for me is TWIN PEAKS: FIRE WALK WITH ME, and that's only because it's simultaneously a prequel and a sequel.

Get some new ideas for fuck's sake!!!
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post #10 of 27
1/13/08 at 11:20am
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Originally Posted by Gabriel Williams
The problem with prequels is that they remove any mystique from a given story. Nothing is left to the audience's imagination, everything's spelled out.
On some level I agree, but maybe it's the kid who read too many comic books in me still hanging about, but I can't help but be interested in origins and such. That was always a way to hook us comic geeks into buying a book; promise an origin; it'll surely be a collector's item! So as much as I like the shadowy, vaguely formed, fill in the blanks origin story, because Gabe's right, leaving some of it up to the imagination is scarier most of the time, if they DO make a prequel, I feel a strong desire to see it, just to see what they do with the story. I guess this'd be no different, but I'd wait for it to come out on on demand or DVD. No compunction to see Freddy's prequel in the theatres.
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post #11 of 27
1/13/08 at 4:12pm
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I think it is kind of funny that somebody's idea of a gay man is a guy who goes around making penis analogies all the time.

NOES 2 might not be a good film, but it is always good for a laugh. I had never even seen the film until I bought the boxset a few years ago. I couldn't believe that scene where he runs into the gym teacher at the leather bar or that part where he is dancing and singing to the cassete tape in his room.
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post #12 of 27
1/13/08 at 4:20pm
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oh shit! I just realized that YouTube clip you posted was the dance scene. Sweet! Oh and when I said I thought it was funny that the dude thinks I'm gay because I made a penis analogy, I meant I thought it was sad. Really sad. But to keep things on topic, I really think they should leave the franchise alone. If they want to do something, they should make a sequel and keep Englund and try to go back to what they were doing in the original and then with Dream Warriors and to a lesser extent, Freddy Vs. Jason. The thing I liked about Freddy Vs. Jason was that it struck a better balance between scary freddy and turning people into a bug freddy. The fantasy style kills were never a problem for me but the one liners were. Dream Warriors was the only time they did a good job finding a balance. I never liked how the series shifted to kills that didn't even reflect the victim's true fears. Was that bitch losing sleep every night about turning into a bug when she is lifting weights?

I don't know, I guess I feel the same way about any new Freddy project as I did the Friday the 13th remake. It would just be nice to see freddy on the big screen. One problem I did have the freddy vs. jason though was the CGI effects. That little worm thing that smokes weed with the Jay Mewes type character looked funny. The coolest thing about the early nightmare films, for me, was the practical effects.
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post #13 of 27
1/14/08 at 4:20am
I think A Nightmare On Elm Street is one of the only franchises that could actually do with a reset. I love them all(yes even Freddy's Dead), but they got worse and worse as they went along. Really, the concept is a lot more interesting than most if not all of the movies. Even the first one; I think is pretty hit or miss. It's just a shame Robert Englund isn't immortal. He owns this role. Whoever they get has some 900-size shoes to fill.

But I am getting really sick of these pseudo updates of non-news every few months. What the hell happened to that TV show they shot hosted by Englund where they just throw people into their greatest fears? I remember hearing that they had a woman who was afraid of bulls, so they threw her into a maze with a live angry-as-fuck bull and told her to escape. It was actually two seperate mazes intertwined, but still. What a great idea.
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post #14 of 27
1/15/08 at 6:30am
When they remake this, my vote is for Matthew McConaghey to play Freddy. You know he would rule, so shut up with the neg rep, elitist losers.
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post #15 of 27
1/15/08 at 9:47am
I just can't picture freddy with a Southern accent, though.
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post #16 of 27
1/15/08 at 11:16am
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Originally Posted by IggytheBorg
...I feel a strong desire to see it, just to see what they do with the story...
Well, I have a pretty dim view of what anyone can do with a story when everyone knows what the eventual outcome is. Look what they did with the TCM prequel: Leatherface is a fucked up kid who comes from a fucked up family, picks up chainsaw. The end.
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post #17 of 27
1/15/08 at 11:28am
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yeah but the music indicated that the part where he picked up the chainsaw was dramatic, so it was.

And I think somebody already beat you to the "insert wacky celebrity choice" should play freddy joke. Jude Law was funnier.
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post #18 of 27
1/15/08 at 1:08pm
Agreed. My interest in seeing this done was rekindled as well by my recent review of the NOES Fanfic novel "Perchance to Dream". The author wrote some pretty inventive kills that made good use of Freddy's dream powers, and would probably have looked very good on film. If nothing else, Freddy is a slasher that isn't as bound by convention as most of the others are.
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post #19 of 27
1/30/08 at 4:35pm
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http://www.creature-corner.com/?type=news&id=3164

I knew that this is where they were going with it but I didn't expect the announcement so soon.
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post #20 of 27
1/31/08 at 8:20pm
Dear God, why?!?!?! Platinum Dunes/Michael Bay already did a horrible job with Leatherface (both films) and now it sounds like they are in the midst of ass raping Friday the 13th, but for godsakes!!! Freddy and Nightmare On Elm Street. I can guarantee it will be horrible, most notably because they won't use Englund. The vibe I get from Platinum Dune is "those old flicks were good, but we can make them TOTALLY AWESOME" and then the proceede to churn out garbage. Hell it's not just Platinum Dunes either, its all these crappy 80s horror remakes. I mean Halloween is another prime example of what bad idea it is to try to make "Halloween cool again", it was always cool it didn't need the re-imagination (remake/prequel) film in 2007.

I want new original ideas... Leatherface, Freddy, Jason, they were all new ideas at one time, let's recapture that magic with new characters and stories
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post #21 of 27
1/31/08 at 9:29pm
Agree with Bay - is there really a screaming need for another Nightmare flick? Same with Friday, Halloween, TCM, etc., they've had their day in the sun, now let's see something new. Maybe instead of mystical, unstoppable killing machines, we can get a scientific (DNA splicing, cloning, etc.) unstoppable killing machine. Hell, make it a female this time, hacking guys to bits, striking that blow for equal opportunity since we've had women terrorized for so long.

Something different, please!
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post #22 of 27
1/31/08 at 10:49pm
I really can't see anyone else playing Freddy. If they take away Englund, I don't think I'll see it.
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post #23 of 27
2/1/08 at 11:09pm
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Originally Posted by irridescent View Post
I really can't see anyone else playing Freddy. If they take away Englund, I don't think I'll see it.
Yeah, if they have Englund I'll check it out from a morbid interst kind of thing, and I do want to suppport Englund's craft, but if they don't use him..... forget it!
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post #24 of 27
2/2/08 at 12:43am
On the other hand, Englund was a relative unknown before he played Freddy; maybe they'll discover another who can assume the mantle in a decent fashion. But I agree I can't think of any "known" actor playing him well.
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post #25 of 27
2/2/08 at 1:18am
Normally I'd be the last person defending Platinum Dunes, the TCM movies were shit, the Amityville movie several kinds of shit, and the Hitcher movie doesn't even deserve a mention, I'm still hoping that the Birds movie falls through, but that Friday the 13th script review thingy that Devin wrote up several months ago had me intrigued. I liked what I heard.

The only reason I can see remaking Nightmare (besides the obvious dollar signs, and that's really all that counts in Hollywood) is to expand the dream logic world. So expect tons of needless CGI. Let's face it, they won't even think twice about replacing Englund. We'll get up in arms about it, as we should, really, he's the only movie monster of that era that even matters who's under the makeup, but it will still make a ton of money. No matter how valid are arguments are, our voices will be drowned out by the legion of teenage fans who declare it the most awesomest Elm Street ever.
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post #26 of 27
2/3/08 at 1:33pm
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Originally Posted by Keith Fordyce View Post
No matter how valid are arguments are, our voices will be drowned out by the legion of teenage fans who declare it the most awesomest Elm Street ever.
You are so right!
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post #27 of 27
2/3/08 at 6:46pm
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Originally Posted by irridescent View Post
I really can't see anyone else playing Freddy. If they take away Englund, I don't think I'll see it.
John Turturro.
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