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Fear Itself: Monsters At the Movies

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Said it in the CLOVERFIELD Post-release thread... Yeah, the 9/11 allusions are obvious (sudden attack on NYC, collapsing buildings, panic in the streets, events caught on tape, etc)... but I read another review (brief as it was) online that brought some other 9/11 parallels into focus for me:

"Even after watching (experiencing, to be exact) the film, I could not do away with fear and terror that the monster brought. The origin of the CLOVERFIELD monster was not revealed at the end of the film. And it neither was killed nor avoided. The audience does not know what the true identity of it is. To me, the monster is like metaphors for ever-present fear and uneasiness in the whole world, in this year of two thousand and eight, that we could never know their cause and symptoms."


I then read through the CLOVERFIELD production notes and an essay on society's fears, and as they inform and are reflected by horror and scifi flicks, popped up in the middle. It's a subject we Chewers of the Creature-Corner variety have discussed in many threads before. Despite bringing up recent crappier flicks like INVASION and DAY AFTER TOMORROW (and mentioning them along some of the other classics they site), there's a decent analysis in there:



Fear Itself: Monsters At the Movies

“In the same way that GODZILLA was about the anxiety of the nuclear age, and the atomic bomb and Hiroshima, the monster in CLOVERFIELD is a metaphor for our times and being able to find a way to approach those feelings without diminishing or exploiting them.” – Matt Reeves, Director, CLOVERFIELD

Dracula. Godzilla. Freddy Krueger. Foreboding, violent monsters (in human, animal or alien form) who wreak havoc on an innocent public, have been drawing audiences to theaters since the silent era, offering catharsis from personal anxiety and serving as metaphors for the general fears plaguing the culture during a particular era.

Some of the earliest movie monsters hail from the German expressionist film movement that began during World War I and continued through the 1920s. The central fiends in such films as Paul Wegener’s THE GOLEM, Robert Wiene’s THE CABINET OF DR. CALIGARI and F.W. Murnau’s NOSFERATU were controversial depictions of the malaise in war-devastated Germany. Those films were a direct influence on iconic American movie monsters of the ‘20s and ‘30s, including FRANKENSTEIN, DRACULA, THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA and THE INVISIBLE MAN – exotic foreign demons during an era of pronounced xenophobia and isolationism in the U.S. Not coincidentally, the film’s villains often preyed upon scantily clad females at a time when the country’s inbred Puritanism was being challenged by the “Roaring ‘20s,” a period of change for women, who not only won the right to vote, but also to bob their hair, raise their hemlines and dance the Charleston.

In the 1940s and 1950s, the monsters became even more menacing, expressing the paranoia and sense of impending doom that characterized the Cold War period. Despite Franklin Roosevelt’s soothing Depression-era promise, there seemed to be something more to fear than fear itself. Movies like THE THING and THE WAR OF THE WORLDS were populated by mutant beings or evil extraterrestrials bent on destroying the American way of life. The alien invaders in THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL could be seen to represent the threat of ideological takeover by communist Russia, while INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS was a thinly-veiled critique of Joseph McCarthy’s “communist under every bed” hysteria. Ironically, the country’s greatest weapons were of little use against creatures like GODZILLA, a horrifying by-product of the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, while the giant ants in THEM! raised serious questions about the safety of using nuclear power.

The gloomy foreboding of the ‘50s monster movies was mitigated by the public’s faith in the power of the central government to pull together to tackle these threats. They had, after all, proved victorious in World War II, which was followed by one of the biggest economic booms in our history. Concurrently, as in the 1920s, the country’s conservative, puritanical streak resurfaced in Alfred Hitchcock’s PSYCHO and THE BIRDS, which spotlighted two very different kinds of monsters, who exacted revenge on women who too freely expressed their desire for independence.

But by the 1960s and 1970s, that safety net was frayed and the public’s blind belief in their leaders’ ability to save them in a time of crisis came under serious scrutiny. In these films, if disaster struck, it was every man for himself. The monsters in JAWS and ALIEN were all the more frightening because they prospered through greed with little regard for public safety. What was good for General Motors…

As the Vietnam War shook the country’s faith in their government, it also influenced writers, philosophers and theologians to question the metaphysical implications of these events. A significant trend in horror movies dealt indirectly with the war (George A. Romero’s landmark 1968 zombie thriller NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD – which also included references to the civil rights movement), while Tobe Hooper’s 1974 classic THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE played on fears about the dissolution of the traditional American family. In these movies, we saw the enemy – and it was us.

The idea of God turning away from society surfaced during movies of the era, introducing the scariest monster of them all – Satan. Roman Polanski’s ROSEMARY’S BABY, William Friedkin’s THE EXORCIST and Richard Donner’s THE OMEN made this villain of all villains more tangible (and horrifying) by having him inhabit the body of a child.

If the devil himself could appear in the most unlikely of places, then clearly no one was safe – not even suburbanites. By the 1980s, the exodus away from the dangers of city life (drugs, racial tension, sexual license) to the controlled family-friendly environment of planned communities proved to be no panacea for the happy family in POLTERGEIST, who had unwittingly upset the natural order (again due to greedy, unscrupulous land developers) by moving into a house built on a sacred Native American burial ground. Again, revenge was taken out on the most vulnerable among us – the children.

The sexually maladjusted Norman Bates in Alfred Hitchcock’s PSYCHO evolved into an army of crazed and tormented monsters like Jason in the FRIDAY THE 13th” series, Michael Meyers in HALLOWEEN and NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET’s Freddie Krueger. The message to the teens who populated (and watched) these movies couldn’t have been clearer: You have sex, you die. Things went from bad to worse in films like THE HUNGER and David Cronenberg’s remake of THE FLY, which evoked the AIDS epidemic and the explosion of other sexually transmitted diseases.

With the end of the Cold War, the monsters of the 1990s turned out to be the seemingly normal next-door neighbor who turned out to be a pedophile, a crazed fan or a cannibalistic mass murderer: Dr. Hannibal Lecter of THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS; Annie Wilkes in MISERY; and John Doe in SE7EN.

But, just as the new millennium began, incomprehensible real-life horror overshadowed anything that was being shown in theaters. Not only was the country’s always-fragile sense of vulnerability truly challenged for the first time since Pearl Harbor, but it seemed like a prelude to the end of days. Everywhere one turned there was another potential devastation – Ebola, SARS, bird flu, anthrax and global warming. And movies responded with films like 28 DAYS LATER, a contemporary remake of BODY SNATCHERS called THE INVASION and, most recently, I AM LEGEND. Xenophobia resurfaced in a more diabolical manner in films like HOSTEL, SAW and TOURISTAS – torture fests that eerily coincided with a heated debate over the use of torture in wartime. And in another remake, POSEIDON, the monster was a tsunami-like wave, not unlike the one that had overwhelmed Southeast Asia only months before.

In Steven Spielberg’s frightening remake of WAR OF THE WORLDS aliens, without provocation, lay waste to the earth – and we are unable to stop them. It’s the earth’s atmosphere – replete with bacteria and viruses – that finally destroys them. Mother Nature came to our rescue, but there wasn’t much to be happy about, since she also gave us the cold shoulder in THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW. Most of North America is covered with a blanket of ice and, as in WAR OF THE WORLDS, it has happened without so much as a warning (or maybe we weren’t listening), making the U.S. largely uninhabitable.

The nature of new, previously unforeseen threats to our way of life, has led to a new breed of monster movie that reflects not only the uncertainty of our era, but our sense of powerlessness in the face of such daunting obstacles.
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If you want to read a great book on this type of topic, let me recommend David Skal's The Monster Show from the mid 90s. Worth seeking out. The hardcover edition has a cool cover by Edward Gorey.
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If you want to read a great book on this type of topic, let me recommend David Skal's The Monster Show from the mid 90s. Worth seeking out. The hardcover edition has a cool cover by Edward Gorey.
Thanks! Just added it to my wishlist. Sounds like a good read.
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All of the coments the author of this article makes appear to be valid analyses of the horror films that were popular in the past eras he discusses. I have to wonder, though, how much, if any, of that was consciously done by the filmmakers? Were they always purposely using monster/killer/situation as allegory, and how much was a product of osmosis, simply from living in that time? And come to that, how much may just be a guy with a theory shoe horning some facts to fit his pet ideas?
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Thanks! Just added it to my wishlist. Sounds like a good read.
Hope you enjoy it. Skal finds a ton of interesting facts about classic horror movies that is quite eye opening.

However, there is also a revised paperback version of The Monster Show that was released about seven or eight years ago. The hardcover version goes only as far as covering The Silence of the Lambs and Terminator 2.
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All of the coments the author of this article makes appear to be valid analyses of the horror films that were popular in the past eras he discusses. I have to wonder, though, how much, if any, of that was consciously done by the filmmakers? Were they always purposely using monster/killer/situation as allegory, and how much was a product of osmosis, simply from living in that time? And come to that, how much may just be a guy with a theory shoe horning some facts to fit his pet ideas?
You know, that's a great question. Are these flicks just a product of their time (and even in some cases, translatable to other eras with little effort) or are certain societal fears purposefully injected into them? I suppose depending on the savvy, skill, and foresight of the film-makers, it's probably a mixture.

When the movie has a clearcut target for the fear, especially as a result from some sort of current scientific discovery/exploration/tampering (ie: atomic energy, cloning, biological warfare) you can be pretty sure it's the goal of the creators. It could be as simple as poking your nose where it doesn't belong (geographical exploration as seen in a ton of Burroughs/Verne/Doyle) or when a certain advancement in technology or medicine is either dangerous or has moral ramifications (Frankenstein, Godzilla, etc). When you start to introduce "isms" (communism, feminism, terrorism), politics, and other social mores into the mix, interpretations can be a little more mixed, less obvious, and sometimes maybe even unintentional.

It seems like most decades (due to diplomatic unrest and a constant threat of some enemy) have similar fears. Some are cyclical. Many scary flicks that took a cue from the threat of communism resonate now, because of the impending and unknown threat of terrorism.

A "psycho with a knife" is always scary, but if you look at the history of who the victims were in these movies and who might be spared, you have an interesting study. Post modern slasher flicks often tell us that no one is safe and even that we are the killers. Way different than the earlier entries in the genre.

I dunno. Certain film-makers let us know what the inspirations are (Cameron & Lucas have both sited Vietnam as influences in STAR WARS & ALENS), but other movies like 300 (based on a historical legend centuries+ old) resonate today because of political climates and cultural truths. It's also easier to look back onto a time period and judge and critique a body of work, looking for patterns, knowing the history and attitude of a generation. I'm sure in many cases, a big percentage of movies created within a certain time are put out in hopes of cashing in on a successful, well-crafted film, without ever knowing why it was so effective in the 1st place.

CLOVERFIELD (IMO) resonates in the way it set out to, and I think that the creators (as it's stated in the production notes) knew exactly what they were doing. I'd say that the seminal examples of these genres (which stand the test of time, the classics) could only succeed due to careful planning. Yeah, "Art" can happen accidentally (as can interpretation/translation/critique), but Art that reflects society (and in doing so, effects society), takes some thought, effort, and planning.

But really, "Man abuses science/nature… again. And pays the consequences." doesn't have to be that deep to work. It really all depends on ambition, intent, context, execution... Just compare the complexity of themes between INCREDIBLE SHRINKING MAN and TARANTULA (shameless plug!).

EDIT: Boy that post is one big ramble, sorry guys.
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You know, that's a great question. It seems like most decades (due to diplomatic unrest and a constant threat of some enemy) have similar fears. Some are cyclical. Many scary flicks that took a cue from the threat of communism resonate now, because of the impending and unknown threat of terrorism.

A "psycho with a knife" is always scary, but if you look at the history of who the victims were in these movies and who might be spared, you have an interesting study. Post modern slasher flicks often tell us that no one is safe and even that we are the killers. Way different than the earlier entries in the genre.
Thank you.

I think I disagree a little w/ the assessment that communism fears are readily translatable into terrorism fears. Communist fear was more like a fear of being assimilated or dominated, and movies like the original version (hell, maybe both versions) of "The Thing" and the original (more so than any other, although the 1970's version probably comes close) "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" seem to typify this for me. Terrorism makes us afraid of sudden violence and harm to ourselves and loved ones more than being dominated or assimilated. I don't think anyone seriously harbors a fear that someday radical Islam will overthrow the "American way of life" with the aid of fellow travelers and 5th columnists. I don't see anyone in the Senate asking random Americans: "Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the faith of Islam?" Sure we're afraid of things from decade to decade, and that constant (i.e., THAT we are afraid, of SOMETHING) does not change. But what it is that scares us, and why, DOES change, I think.

Is it at all cyclical? May be that it is. Our scientific fears have come around from nuclear energy to genetic splicing, cloning, etc., as was mentioned in the article. But the upshot is the same; maybe the insects aren't giant, but now they can think, or sting without dying, or lay eggs in hosts when they never could before because we introduced WASP genes into that fruit fly species. . . or whatever. If "Cloverfield" gave us a creature origin (I haven't seen it yet, but I understand it doesn't) maybe we'd see if a very close analogue to the 1950's era giant monster flick would resonate the same way with an audience. The seemingly random and unpredicted destruction of NYC comes off, as I'm sure they planned it to, more like the next terrorist attack we all live in fear of, currently, than it does like the lesson being taught about messing with science.

As for the slasher victim change up we're currently witnessing, I agree with the assessment. Morality got drummed into us through a seemingly endless parade of (what became) cookie cutter, formulaic films where the teens drinking, having sex or doing drugs were the ones to get killed while the virginal abstentionists survived. As an aside, I blame Friday the 13th for this more than Halloween, BTW. Halloween had the teens messing around as the ones getting killed, sure, but F13 always came off as meaner & nastier, and more in your face with the morality, using it to scare the audience more than Halloween did. Carpenter probably kept it in - I think - more as a conscious or unconscious homage to the EC comics he was no doubt weaned on as a kid. THEY were fairly DRIPPING with just desserts morality. And the switch to a more amoral slant to the victimization code is a good thing, and long overdue, IMO. I opined in an earlier thread that horror is scarier w/o the moral streak. Just like real life. When they release the anthrax or detonate the dirty bomb over your city, teetolaing or celibacy isn't going to save you. Why should you be spared the psycho's knife for the same reason?

How's THAT for rambling?
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Thank you.

I think I disagree a little w/ the assessment that communism fears are readily translatable into terrorism fears. Communist fear was more like a fear of being assimilated or dominated, and movies like the original version (hell, maybe both versions) of "The Thing" and the original (more so than any other, although the 1970's version probably comes close) "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" seem to typify this for me. Terrorism makes us afraid of sudden violence and harm to ourselves and loved ones more than being dominated or assimilated. I don't think anyone seriously harbors a fear that someday radical Islam will overthrow the "American way of life" with the aid of fellow travelers and 5th columnists. I don't see anyone in the Senate asking random Americans: "Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the faith of Islam?" Sure we're afraid of things from decade to decade, and that constant (i.e., THAT we are afraid, of SOMETHING) does not change. But what it is that scares us, and why, DOES change, I think.
Sure it's not exactly the same, but there are some common elements. The palpable threat of not knowing who you can trust or feeling unsafe in your own homefield is the fear/theme that translates from the era of the communist to the terrorist.

Reasons why WAR OF THE WORLDS was easily (and effectively) remade today and why INVASION (in theory only) should have been easy too. Both stories manipulate using the fear of paranoia and an invasion of sorts. Takes a little updating/tweaking to fit society's new climate, but not a whole lot. My 2 cents.
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I'd like to see a slasher flick where the only victims are the morally upright kids. The burnouts/nymphos were too busy getting their freak on in the store room behind the camp's kitchen to notice people getting hacked and slashed.

bonus: More boobage shots.
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I'd like to see a slasher flick where the only victims are the morally upright kids. The burnouts/nymphos were too busy getting their freak on in the store room behind the camp's kitchen to notice people getting hacked and slashed.

bonus: More boobage shots.
There is always Cherry Falls. It isn't a horrible movie, but the concept wasn't handled as well as it could have been. Very much a missed opportunity. However, I believe the dvd of Falls is packaged with Terror Tract, an underrated horror anthology with John Ritter. So, it is worth seeking out.
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Given past experience, the words "Horror" and "John Ritter" should probably not be used in the same sentence.
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And here's another thought: Much is made of the impact of some post WWII major events on horror films (like the use & proliferation of nuclear bmbs/energy and the start of the Cold War), but what of WWII itself? We had to be riding high as a nation having emerged victorious from that conflict, and conquering the evils of Nazism, fascism & imperialism (Japanese Imperialism, to be specific) in the process. I guess that kind of good felling doesn't make for a good horror climate, except in the sense that all of it can be yanked out from under you by some horrific happening. Do you think the 50's era don't mess with science films serve that same purpose? Or are they more narrowly focused on the science theme?
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Do you think the 50's era don't mess with science films serve that same purpose? Or are they more narrowly focused on the science theme?
I do and here's my theory. The "riding high" feeling post-WW2 can also be summed up as hubris. We were untouchable (the sleeping giant) until a suicidal sneak attack (Pearl Harbor) threw us off-guard. After our costly victory (and with our hubris intact), it would have to take something insidious (Alien Invasion from within like The THING or BODY SNATCHERS) or something even more indestructable (Giant Monsters Attack!) to take us down a peg.

This arrogance (as a nation) left us blind and vulnerable to the 9/11 attacks as well. Echoes, echoes...

It's not just discovery that leads to downfall in these flicks, it's pride and entitlement. Atomic technology doesn't just make insects grow to immense sizes, it wipes out whole towns off the map (like a small-scale Death Star).


EDIT: Couple of characters that said it better than I could have...

Dr. Ian Malcolm (JURASSIC PARK, post-FRANKENSTEIN): "You spent so much time asking if you can do this that nobody bothered to ask if you should."

Taylor (PLANET OF THE APES): Oh my God. I'm back. I'm home. All the time, it was... We finally really did it... You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!
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I'm was thinking about movies such as "Panic In The Year Zero" and "Fail-Safe", but those came out in the early 60s. Enough time for us to be in the clutches of the cold war and democracy versus communism.
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Found some good stuff here.

http://www.filmsite.org/horrorfilms2.html

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The Cycle of 50s Horror Films:

Many of the films in the horror genre from the mid-1930s to the late 1950s were B-grade movies, inferior sequels, or atrocious low-budget gimmick films. In the atomic age of the 1950s, much was made of the modern effects of radioactivity exposure, toxic chemical spills, or other scientific accidents - such as the development of giant mutant monsters or carnivorous insects, including Gojira (1954, Japan, aka Godzilla). During that time, most of the monster horror films were cheaply made, drive-in, teenage-oriented, grade-Z films, such as I Was a Teenage Werewolf (1957).

Invasion of the Body Snatchers - 1956A few American-made monster/horror films of the time, however, effectively capitalized on terrorizing threats that included extraterrestrial powers or space invaders, such as the alien found in the Arctic in The Thing (From Another World) (1951), the unusual Gil-man monster in The Creature From the Black Lagoon (1954), mutant ants in the New Mexico desert in Them! (1954), or the aberrant or alien threat in Don Siegel's classic tale of Cold War paranoia - Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1956). The latter film, a tale cautioning against conformity, was a classic tale of zombie-like clones taking over the bodies of the residents of a small California town. [A remake by Philip Kaufman, Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978), set in San Francisco, featured a cameo appearance by the first film's star Kevin McCarthy.]

Director Jack Arnold's allegorical The Incredible Shrinking Man (1957), from a screenplay by author Richard Matheson, showed the deadly mutations and after-effects of exposure to radioactivity - even a cat or a spider could become a frightening monster to a shrunken human. To counter the popularity of TV, film studios experimented with 3-D in films such as House of Wax (1953) (the hit film that launched the career of Vincent Price as "the King of Horror" in the role of sculptor Professor Henry Jarrod who vengefully turned the corpses of his enemies into wax figures), and The Creature From the Black Lagoon (1954).

Two other late 50s films with sci-fi/horror features included: The Blob (1958) and the original The Fly (1958) (with Vincent Price as the brother of a scientist who accidentally was turned into a part house-fly). The latter film spawned many sequels in later generations (its two sequels: Return of the Fly (1959) and Curse of the Fly (1965); and another remake The Fly (1986) with its own sequel The Fly 2 (1989)). Charles Laughton's only directorial effort was for The Night of the Hunter (1955) about a homicidal yet charismatic preacher Harry Powell (Robert Mitchum) with 'love' and 'hate' tattooed on his hands.
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Zombies!

Some compelling arguments here:
American society reflected in Zombie Films
Feminism: an Alien Ideology?
Shared Nightmares: Horror films and society as mirrors
An Examination of Change as a Recurring Theme in Horror Films
Crosstalk: The state of horror cinema
Excellent breakdown by decade: Horror Film History— A Decade by Decade Guide to the Horror Movie Genre

From that last link, the 1940's...
Horror Eats Itself
Wartime horror movies were purely an American product. Banned in Britain, with film production curbed throughout the theatre of war in Europe, horror movies were cranked out by Hollywood solely to amuse the domestic audience. The studios stuck with tried and tested ideas, wary of taking risks that might suggest they had no measure of the zeitgeist, and trotted out a series of variations on a theme. This was not an age of innovation, but horror movie memes were, nonetheless, evolving.

If the horror movies of the 1930s had dealt in well-established fictional monsters, looking back towards the nineteenth century for inspiration, the 1940s reflected the internalisation of the horror market. The Americans looked at themselves as “safe”, whereas everything else, particularly anything hailing from that frightening, chaotic, unreasonable and uncontrolled place known as Europe was dangerous. Yet, try as they might, the Americans could not keep themselves separate and pure, their basic European roots kept peeking through, their links with the lands of their ancestors eventually pulling them into World War Two. In the same way, many horror films of this period deal with roots peeking through – in the form of men or women who were subject to the emergence of a primal animal identity [DARKMITE8's note: WOLF MAN, CAT PEOPLE, etc]. It's interesting to see this device in Disney's Pinocchio (1940) as the bad boys are turned into donkeys. What does it all mean...?





Additionally, I was thinking about monster movies (specifically vampire, werewolf, zombie) and the evolution of the monster's origin. Superstitions and myth were the cause of many of society's fears. Originally, these were all supernatural creatures, created by evil demonic forces (or non-Christian religions, like Voodoo). Nowadays, science (chemicals, virus, genetics, etc) is to blame.

Was also considering the collective unconscious, archetypes, and fears that are universal. These tend to be a bit deeper and more general than a culture/society's current mores influencing entertainment, but it all ties together to a degree. One informs the other and vice versa.

I wonder if this book is any good? FEAR WITHOUT FRONTIERS: HORROR CINEMA ACROSS THE GLOBE
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And sure, you could also get into a discussion why people watch horror flicks (for that rollercoaster escape/release) or seek out scary stories at all (kind of ties into "feeding the current societal need"), but that seems a ripe subject for its own thread. On that note, here's a quick read:

Why Horror Movies Still Gnaw at Us

We can all agree... regardless of decade or social/technological evolution, fear of death/mortality are (as are death/mortality themselves) a constant.

From King himself...

Why We Crave Horror Movies
By Stephen King


I think that we’re all mentally ill; those of us outside the asylums only hide it a little better – and
maybe not all that much better, after all. We’ve all known people who talk to themselves, people who
sometimes squinch their faces into horrible grimaces when they believe no one is watching, people who
have some hysterical fear – of snakes, the dark, the tight place, the long drop . . . and, of course, those
final worms and grubs that are waiting so patiently underground.

When we pay our four or five bucks and seat ourselves at tenth-row center in a theater showing a
horror movie, we are daring the nightmare.

Why? Some of the reasons are simple and obvious. To show that we can, that we are not afraid,
that we can ride this roller coaster. Which is not to say that a really good horror movie may not surprise a
scream out of us at some point, the way we may scream when the roller coaster twists through a complete
360 or plows through a lake at the bottom of the drop. And horror movies, like roller coasters, have
always been the special province of the young; by the time one turns 40 or 50, one’s appetite for double
twists or 360-degree loops may be considerably depleted.

We also go to re-establish our feelings of essential normality; the horror movie is innately
conservative, even reactionary. Freda Jackson as the horrible melting woman in Die, Monster, Die!
confirms for us that no matter how far we may be removed from the beauty of a Robert Redford or a
Diana Ross, we are still light-years from true ugliness.

And we go to have fun.

Ah, but this is where the ground starts to slope away, isn’t it? Because this is a very peculiar sort
of fun, indeed. The fun comes from seeing others menaced – sometimes killed. One critic has suggested
that if pro football has become the voyeur’s version of combat, then the horror film has become the
modern version of the public lynching.

It is true that the mythic “fairy-tale” horror film intends to take away the shades of grey . . . . It
urges us to put away our more civilized and adult penchant for analysis and to become children again,
seeing things in pure blacks and whites. It may be that horror movies provide psychic relief on this level
because this invitation to lapse into simplicity, irrationality and even outright madness is extended so
rarely. We are told we may allow our emotions a free rein . . . or no rein at all.

If we are all insane, then sanity becomes a matter of degree. If your insanity leads you to carve
up women like Jack the Ripper or the Cleveland Torso Murderer, we clap you away in the funny farm
(but neither of those two amateur-night surgeons was ever caught, heh-heh-heh); if, on the other hand,
your insanity leads you only to talk to yourself when you’re under stress or to pick your nose on your
morning bus, then you are left alone to go about your business . . . though it is doubtful that you will ever
be invited to the best parties.

The potential lyncher is in almost all of us (excluding saints, past and present; but then, most
saints have been crazy in their own ways), and every now and then, he has to be let loose to scream and
roll around in the grass. Our emotions and our fears form their own body, and we recognize that it
demands its own exercise to maintain proper muscle tone. Certain of these emotional muscles are
accepted – even exalted – in civilized society; they are, of course, the emotions that tend to maintain the
status quo of civilization itself. Love, friendship, loyalty, kindness -- these are all the emotions that we
applaud, emotions that have been immortalized in the couplets of Hallmark cards and in the verses (I
don’t dare call it poetry) of Leonard Nimoy.

When we exhibit these emotions, society showers us with positive reinforcement; we learn this
even before we get out of diapers. When, as children, we hug our rotten little puke of a sister and give her
a kiss, all the aunts and uncles smile and twit and cry, “Isn’t he the sweetest little thing?” Such coveted
treats as chocolate-covered graham crackers often follow. But if we deliberately slam the rotten little
puke of a sister’s fingers in the door, sanctions follow – angry remonstrance from parents, aunts and
uncles; instead of a chocolate-covered graham cracker, a spanking.

But anticivilization emotions don’t go away, and they demand periodic exercise. We have such
“sick” jokes as, “What’s the difference between a truckload of bowling balls and a truckload of dead
babies?” (You can’t unload a truckload of bowling balls with a pitchfork . . . a joke, by the way, that I
heard originally from a ten-year-old.) Such a joke may surprise a laugh or a grin out of us even as we
recoil, a possibility that confirms the thesis: If we share a brotherhood of man, then we also share an
insanity of man. None of which is intended as a defense of either the sick joke or insanity but merely as
an explanation of why the best horror films, like the best fairy tales, manage to be reactionary, anarchistic,
and revolutionary all at the same time.

The mythic horror movie, like the sick joke, has a dirty job to do. It deliberately appeals to all
that is worst in us. It is morbidity unchained, our most base instincts let free, our nastiest fantasies
realized . . . and it all happens, fittingly enough, in the dark. For those reasons, good liberals often shy
away from horror films. For myself, I like to see the most aggressive of them – Dawn of the Dead, for
instance – as lifting a trap door in the civilized forebrain and throwing a basket of raw meat to the hungry
alligators swimming around in that subterranean river beneath.

Why bother? Because it keeps them from getting out, man. It keeps them down there and me up
here. It was Lennon and McCartney who said that all you need is love, and I would agree with that.

As long as you keep the gators fed.
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And sure, you could also get into a discussion why people watch horror flicks (for that rollercoaster escape/release) or seek out scary stories at all (kind of ties into "feeding the current societal need"), but that seems a ripe subject for its own thread.
Yeah, I seem to recall a thread several years ago on the subject. I don't remember the title. I will probably dig around later and see if I can pull it up.
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Yeah, I seem to recall a thread several years ago on the subject. I don't remember the title. I will probably dig around later and see if I can pull it up.
Good luck, the search function is FUBAR.



From horrorfilmhistory.com ...

Horror movies have long served both purposes. They deliver thrills by the hearseload, as well as telling us stories of the dark, forbidden side of life (and death). They also provide a revealing mirror image of the anxieties of their time. Nosferatu (1922) is not simply a tale of vampirism, but offers heart-rending images of a town beleaguered by premature and random deaths, echoes of the Great War and the Great Flu Epidemic fatalities. At the other end of the century Blade (1998) is not just a tale of vampirism either, but reflects a fear of the powerful yet irresponsible elements in society, echoes down the corridor indeed of the seemingly impunitive behaviour of those at the top.

Each generation gets the horror films it deserves, and one of the more fascinating aspects of the study of the genre is the changing nature of the monsters who present a threat. In the early 1940s, a world living under the shadow of Hitler's predatory tendencies identified a part-man, part-wolf as their boogeyman, whose bestial nature caused him to tear apart those who crossed his path. In the 1990s however, there was no need for a part wolf component: Jonathan Doe (Se7en 1994) and Hannibal Lecter (Manhunter 1986, Silence of the Lambs 1991, Hannibal 2001) were entirely human in their calculated and stylised killing methods. As we move on into the twenty first century, the ghosts and zombies are back in vogue as Eastern and Western superstitions converge, and once more we yearn for an evil that is beyond human.
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Good luck, the search function is FUBAR.
Yeah, probably better to start a new thread and maybe with luck, drop a link to the old discussion.

I'll be happy to lend my assertions.
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Iggy...

More on WW2 (well the decade prior, that is... the 30's) and it's (pre)influence:

Mad Scientists

It is worth noting that mad scientists were also represented in this decade's horror films. The next generation of Caligaris included Dr Moreau (Charles Laughton in The Island of Lost Souls - 1933), Dr Griffin (Claude Rains in The Invisible Man -1933), Paul Lavond (Lionel Barrymore in The Devil Doll - 1936), Dr Mirakle (Bela Lugosi in Murders in the Rue Morgue - 1932), the wheelchair-bound Ivan Igor (Lionel Atwell in The Mystery of the Wax Museum- 1933), and not forgetting Peter Lorre's crazed turn as a lovesick surgeon in Mad Love (1935). 1933, the year Hitler came to power, saw something of a peak in mad scientist movies; it seems the genre was horribly preminiscent of the scientific horrors to come in the Nazi-run concentration camps over the subsequent decade.



And then Hitler's full-blown "shadow" into the 1940's:



Hungry Like The Wolf

... wolves who posed the main global threat at the outset of the 1940s. Hitler himself strongly identified with the iconography and legends of the wolf. The name 'Adolf' means "noble wolf" in Old German. He used "Herr Wolf" as a pseudonym early in his political career. Various Nazi party HQ were named for wolves - Wolfsschulcht (Wolf's Gulch) in France, Werwolf (Manwolf) in the Ukraine and Wolfsschanze (Wolf's Lair) in East Prussia. The SS were "my pack of wolves", he made his sister change her name to 'Paula Wolf' and his favourite secretary was one Johanna Wolf (he referred to her as 'Wölfin' (she-wolf).


“One of his favourite tunes came from a Walt Disney movie. Often and absent-mindedly he whistled "Who's Afraid of The big Bad Wolf?" —an animal, it will be recalled, who wanted to eat people up and blow their houses down."
—p27 The Psychopathic God: Adolf Hitler Robert G.L. Waite (Da Capo Press 1993)

The imagery he used caught on in not-so-flattering ways. Propagandists of the period habitually depicted him as the Big Bad Wolf of fairy tales, as demonstrated by this 1942 cartoon entitled Blitz Wolf (Check out the other WW2 propaganda cartoons posted by this user). It seemed the marauding wolf typified the predators lurking in the corners of public consciousness.
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I opined in an earlier thread that horror is scarier w/o the moral streak. Just like real life. When they release the anthrax or detonate the dirty bomb over your city, teetolaing or celibacy isn't going to save you. Why should you be spared the psycho's knife for the same reason?
That thread for reference:
http://chud.com/forum/showthread.php?t=96923
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Yeah, I guess I'm stating the obvious, but the major themes of societies fears a most certainly strongly reflected in horror films of their times.

But, there's another element of general fears that transcend time and culture. Those are fears that are ingrained in our being, our DNA, our minds, our climate. Those are primal fears.

Fears such as:
claustrophbia
body horror
mutation
animalistic urges
paranoia
survival
rejection
unbiased hate
etc, etc

Those horror elements are universal and transcend any cultural phenomenon and any societal norms of the times. They can always be counted upon to be grasped and related to by everyone irregardless of where they are on the globe or what experiences they've had in their life.
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Yeah, I seem to recall a thread several years ago on the subject. I don't remember the title. I will probably dig around later and see if I can pull it up.
I'm too much of a technological illiterate to include a link to it here, but I did start a thread early last year, I think, called "Why DO We Love Gore So Much?" that delved a bit into the topic of vicarious release thru the horror film and the blood & gore therein. If a standard search can't find it, maybe clicking on "Find all threads by. . . " under my profile can find it (assuming that's the onw you mean).

And I hadn't heard all that wolf/Hitler imagery before. I guess that partly explains the proliferation of werewolf movies from that era. Good show, Mr. Thorough.
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I'm too much of a technological illiterate to include a link to it here, but I did start a thread early last year, I think, called "Why DO We Love Gore So Much?" that delved a bit into the topic of vicarious release thru the horror film and the blood & gore therein.
That thread for reference:
http://chud.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94344
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And I hadn't heard all that wolf/Hitler imagery before. I guess that partly explains the proliferation of werewolf movies from that era.
Yeah, that's what this history had theorized.
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This is all a really interesting theory, and one that I hadn't given much thought to until after 9/11, when I noticed a whole boatload of movies about specifically NYC being wiped out. But yes, now that you mention it, the trend in horror movies certainly does seem to mirror what was going on in the country at that specific time.
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