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post #1 of 5740
Thread Starter 
No not a place for people feeling sad, but a place for people who blu them selves early. People who enjoy their HD now, 1080p and DTS HD.

Sadly we lost the format war thread, and with WBs switching, the war seems to be coming to a close.

Hopefully there are some people here who went blu and didn't look back. Okay lets get some semblance of purpose here.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=bluray-010-20
One of the greatest movies of all time finally gets a HD treatment. Good old 20th Century Fox can usually make a nice disk (god bless them for DTS MA on all their discs, but curse them to hell twice over for screwing up multiple franchises)
post #2 of 5740
I blu myself.
post #3 of 5740
Here's a dumb question...what kind of receiver do you need in order to utilize the "pure HD" sound or whatever it's called? A 7.1 system? I can't find any receivers in my local establishments that actually have the ol' "PureHD" logo or any such thing on them. Oh, and...

FuK U maNz, hD-DvdD wil sTEel rOK it alwaYZ!! JK!! LOlz
post #4 of 5740
Thread Starter 
Well there are lots of receivers that can take advantage of the sounds.

7.1 right now is the best, of course, but then it depends on your blu-ray player what to get from there.

Onkyo probably has the most cost effective with their 605 unit being around $400. It can decode everything, and your player will have to bitstream the info to it. If you're using a PS3, you use PCM, let the player do the decoding, and then it will send it to the receiver to play.

The new panasonic blu rays can bit stream DTS HD to receivers but so far other old players can't.

Sadly when it comes to blu, you have multiple profiles (1.0, 1.1, 2.0) and the PS3 is the only one to be able to update to all of them. Owners are crossing their fingers for internal DTS-HD decoding.
post #5 of 5740
I went Blu by way of an 80gig PS3. The pichure shure is perty.
post #6 of 5740
I'm only 1080i.

Every bloody day I wish i'd waited a few months longer and bought a 1080p TV for the same price.

But no. I bought a PS3 and needed high-definition immediately.

That makes me a sad panda.
post #7 of 5740
Thread Starter 
With Best Buy announcing a switch to blu-ray exclusivity, its about time the war ends now. Because if it doesn't, downloads might start to steal some steam. Of course prices need to get cheaper fast not only on the hardware, but the prices. The new enemy is DVD. Since Sony has such a hold in Hollywood, I wouldn't be surprised if they start to release less on DVD.
post #8 of 5740
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Originally Posted by SAIRUS View Post
With Best Buy announcing a switch to blu-ray exclusivity, its about time the war ends now. Because if it doesn't, downloads might start to steal some steam. Of course prices need to get cheaper fast not only on the hardware, but the prices. The new enemy is DVD. Since Sony has such a hold in Hollywood, I wouldn't be surprised if they start to release less on DVD.
That won't happen for a long time. Too many people have DVD players and Blu-Ray players are still too expensive for a lot of people. To not release movies on regular DVD will mean losing a lot of money for the company.
post #9 of 5740
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Originally Posted by Starving Dog View Post
That won't happen for a long time. Too many people have DVD players and Blu-Ray players are still too expensive for a lot of people. To not release movies on regular DVD will mean losing a lot of money for the company.
True, although I could see Sony and others holding back on Super Special Extended Multi-Disc versions for regular DVD and reserving that for Blu-Ray. Might save them some manufacturing costs by only having to produce 1 Blu-ray disc (vs. 2 regular DVDs) plus start nudging the movie fans that give a shit about that stuff in the right direction.
post #10 of 5740
Sony will continue to sell whatever makes money. They won't phase out DVD releases for many years yet.
post #11 of 5740
I'd read Electrichead's contribution to Blu Ray discussion, if I could just make myself look away from that damn avatar..
post #12 of 5740
BTW, Lost Season 3 is only $40 on Amazon right now. With a list price of $90+ it's not a bad deal.
post #13 of 5740
I hadn't planned on replacing any of my current DVDs with blu-ray, but The Adventures of Baron Munchausen could change that.

thedigitalbits:
"The Adventures of Baron Munchausen: 20th Anniversary Edition will street on DVD and Blu-ray Disc on 4/8. The DVD (SRP $19.94) will include audio commentary with director Terry Gilliam and co-writer/actor Chris McKeown, the 3-part The Madness and Misadventures of Munchausen documentary, storyboard sequences (with all-new vocal performances by Terry Gilliam and Chris McKeown) and deleted scenes. The Blu-ray (SRP $28.95) will add the Marvelous World of Munchausen enhanced graphics and trivia track."

I love the hell out of this movie. And Amazon is pre-ordering for $20, so it's also good to see prices on blu-ray discs coming down. Plus, neat cover.

post #14 of 5740
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Originally Posted by Bees?! View Post
Sony will continue to sell whatever makes money. They won't phase out DVD releases for many years yet.
Agreed, given the amount of time it took for VHS to die I dont think DVD will just go away overnight. Itll be around for a long time to come. I mean I just got my parents to unplug their vcr and replace it with a dvd player this christmas so Id think the average person, though probably not as slow on the uptake as my folks, plans to keep the format they have for as long as they possibly can.
post #15 of 5740
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I ended up getting Casino Royale again on an impulse (it was on sale for $13). Plus the fact, living abroad, I could have the DVD, and when back home I could watch the blu-ray.

I actually slowed down buying DVD movies a good year or so before I got the PS3 so I didn't have to replace them later.

I can't wait to own Heat some day. I've been holding back on the DVD for so long.
post #16 of 5740
I actually just watched Blade Runner: The Final Cut on Blu-ray last night and it was great. The 5.1 track really sounded good. I haven't watched any of the other special features on the other 4 discs though so I don't know if I'll ever make it through those.
post #17 of 5740
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Originally Posted by Trejo View Post
I'd read Electrichead's contribution to Blu Ray discussion, if I could just make myself look away from that damn avatar..
Sorry man, oh I did it again.

I got my 5 free discs from the PS3 deal:

POTC-the black pearl
Species
Swordfish
The Patriot
The Devels Rejects

A mixed bag for sure, but they had limited choices, and all FREE. I did plunk down the cash for The Rock on Blu. Worth every penny.
post #18 of 5740
Thread Starter 
I can't wait to get my hands on Blade Runner final cut.

Electrichead, you may have to get your copy of pirates replaced due some weird framing issues with the movie. I know disney had some # to call, and they could tell you if your copy was affected.
post #19 of 5740
Spidey 3 is even more amazing in HD. You can see all the shininess of the black costume, the glint of light on Peter's tears, and all the grains of sand.
post #20 of 5740
Well, my mom got me an 80 GB Playstation 3 this past weekend, so... guess I'm Blue-Ray now.

No HD TV's in my apartment, though, so... yeah.
post #21 of 5740
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Originally Posted by BTSMGL View Post
guess I'm Blue-Ray now.
*shakes head*
post #22 of 5740
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Originally Posted by MikeShaynePI View Post
*shakes head*
Gah! My bad.

I meant Blü-Ray.

post #23 of 5740
They've been bundling BR players with Sharp HDTV sales the last few weeks. Smart move on both sides (Sharp and BR). I'm this close my next big ass purchase (a Sony HDTV) which if I pull the trigger on my next buy after that is a dual HD/BR player.
post #24 of 5740
More goodness coming soon on Blu-Ray:

Ghostbusters
Starship Troopers (that's right, I said it)
Lawrence of Arabia
Men In Black
All the Rambo movies

Starship Troopers is actually already available in BR in the UK. But I think they decided to hold it back here because they're getting ready to release Starship Troopers: Marauders on DVD.
post #25 of 5740
Starship Troopers I will own.

A side question about these older films. When they are transfered or encoded into the Blu-Ray format, what is the process? Do they really turn it into true HD like a newer film would be.

I compared The Rock 1080i against the 480i version from satellite, and there are big differences, but I was wondering if the quality is as good as a brand new film would be on BRD.
post #26 of 5740
I'm not sure in some cases. I watched "Fifth Element" on BR, and I could definitely tell a difference in the quality, and I watched the Donner cut of Superman II this weekend, and it looked great. The only thing I noticed was, during most of the added back scenes in the Fortress of Solitude, my screen seemed to fade in and out a bit. Not flicker so much, but it was like someone was running the contrast up and down. Didn't notice it on the other scenes, though.

I have not been disappointed by anything I've watched so far, whether it be BR or HD-DVD.
post #27 of 5740
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Originally Posted by Electrichead View Post
A side question about these older films. When they are transfered or encoded into the Blu-Ray format, what is the process? Do they really turn it into true HD like a newer film would be.
I don't think they bother to put it through 4k or even 2k digital intermediate (if that's what you meant), but I'm pretty sure they take a film element of some sort - be it the original negative or an interpositive - and master it in 1080p. From there, they choose a codec to compress the video so it will fit on a blu-ray disc.
post #28 of 5740
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Originally Posted by Martianman View Post
All the Rambo movies
First Blood has been out for a while, and looks sharp.

as for the rest of them, can't wait. I NEED to see George Kee Cheung arrowed apart in high definition.
post #29 of 5740
Could someone explain why stuff like :

Species
Swordfish
The Patriot
The Devels Rejects

..is on blu-ray... but movies like Heat, Last of the Mohicans aren't ?!!

Even the special edition transfer of Heat from 2 years ago isn't that great. It's serviceable i suppose, but it at least needs a remaster!
post #30 of 5740
Partly because of the crowd buying blu-ray players, partly because they're easy sellers, mostly because the AAA stuff takes time.
post #31 of 5740
Easy sellers ? Are there really that many people in the early adopter crowd clamouring for Species or the Devil's Rejects ?
post #32 of 5740
Can we please stop shitting on The Devil's Rejects please?
Early adopters with decent taste in horror clamor plenty. Sorry to derail.

I just found out that Premiere Pro with CS3 can encode Blu-Ray and that made me super excited (like, super duper). Now I just have to find a Blu-ray burner I can get without selling my car. I wish Apple had some sort of more concrete Blu-ray support this year.
post #33 of 5740
Can we please stop shitting on The Devil's Rejects please?

I enjoyed the Devil's rejects. I just don't think it's a prime candidate for Blu-ray, when there are other movies which are. The Blu-ray resources could be put to better use.
post #34 of 5740
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Originally Posted by DDay View Post
Easy sellers ? Are there really that many people in the early adopter crowd clamouring for Species or the Devil's Rejects ?
I won't complain that the Devil's Rejects is on Blu-ray. I like the movie, and I got it for free.

But why Devil's Rejects and not, say, Lawrence of Arabia? I'd guess that someone thought more early adopters would buy The Devil's Rejects. I'd also guess that alot of studios want to have a larger user base before they release some of those AAA titles. They want that quick return that a big first week yields.
post #35 of 5740
Thread Starter 
let it be known, BestBuy.com has planet earth for 55. Online only. Sweet deal, highly recommended.
post #36 of 5740
WB has already announced they'll be double dipping things like Goodfellas on Blu-ray in the coming year.

And now I hate them.
post #37 of 5740
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Originally Posted by SAIRUS View Post
let it be known, BestBuy.com has planet earth for 55. Online only. Sweet deal, highly recommended.
Thanks for the heads up on this. That's a good $10-15 cheaper than any other price I've seen.
post #38 of 5740
According to this site, Heat is coming out on blu-ray with a new 1080p transfer supervised by Michael Mann. You'll have to scroll down a bit to find the info. Doesn't give a release date or anything but it's something to look forward to.
post #39 of 5740
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Originally Posted by gravedigger View Post
Thanks for the heads up on this. That's a good $10-15 cheaper than any other price I've seen.
same price at Amazon but with free supersaver shipping, plus that whole not having to deal with Best Buy in any way shape or form thing.
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post #41 of 5740
Wow, I was this close to buying my dad a $100 HD-DVD player for Christmas with a Netflix subscription for a couple months. I thought that they'd be one of the longer hold outs. I'm really glad I didn't do that now.

If this means they'll start stocking more copies of Blu-ray movies though, I'm all for it.
post #42 of 5740
Hopefully Netflix will start ordering more bluray discs now. I'd like those three month waits for "new" release bluray discs to go away.
post #43 of 5740
Yep, I just got this e-mail from them:

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We're Going Blu-ray

You're receiving this email because you have asked to receive high-definition movies in the HD DVD format. As you may have heard, most of the major movie studios have recently decided to release their high-definition movies exclusively in the Blu-ray format. In order to provide the best selection of high-definition titles for our members, we have decided to go exclusively with Blu-ray as well.

While we will continue to make our current selection of HD DVD titles available to you for the next several months, we will not be adding additional HD DVD titles or reordering replacements.

Toward the end of February, HD DVDs in your Saved Queue will automatically be changed to standard definition DVDs. Then toward the end of this year, all HD DVDs in your Queue will be changed to standard definition DVDs. Don't worry, we will contact you before this happens.

You can click here to change your format preferences.

We're sorry for any inconvenience. If you have any questions or need further assistance, please call us at 1 (888) 638-3549.

-The Netflix Team
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post #45 of 5740
It's about time for Paramount to sulk back with their tail between their legs, and for Universal to eat some humble pie.
post #46 of 5740
Universal doesn't even have to be humble, they could just bitch about how much Blu-ray sucks for as long as the format is around as long as I can get HD Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz.
post #47 of 5740
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Originally Posted by Alan "Nordling" Cerny View Post
That's the look and sound of getting your ass beat.
post #48 of 5740
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by MikeShaynePI View Post
It's about time for Paramount to sulk back with their tail between their legs, and for Universal to eat some humble pie.
Well Paramount got $150 mil, and it seems there is a chance they might have to go back to being blu. I see it as a decent situation.

In the case of Universal, may that pie be the Bourne Trilogy. That would be a good pie indeed.
post #49 of 5740
Back To The Future Blu-berry is my favorite pie. They better be cooking it up.

And (refering to Russ's article) the Indy movies are Spielberg's so I'm pretty sure we'd be seeing them on Blu regardless.
post #50 of 5740
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Originally Posted by MikeShaynePI View Post
Back To The Future Blu-berry is my favorite pie. They better be cooking it up.

And (refering to Russ's article) the Indy movies are Spielberg's so I'm pretty sure we'd be seeing them on Blu regardless.
If the discs were in a flux capacitor looking package, I'd buy it right away. Hell even manure. I hate manure.

So I guess Star Wars, Indy, and Godfather Trilogy will hopefully get their release now in HD (Death Star, Fedora Hat, and Dead Horse keep cases respectively).
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