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post #51 of 99

Holy shit. The Afghan Whigs will release a new album this April. And who was the lucky motherfucker to first break the news? The talented mr Bob Odenkirk of course!

post #52 of 99
Hot damn! Consider me excited. The Afghan Whigs has always been my favorite Greg Dulli-related outfit (although The Twilight Singer's "Blackberry Belle" is truly amazing and probably features Dulli's most consistent quality songwriting).

On the other hand... between my experiences with rock band reunions and The Twilight Singers last album, I'm also a little nervous.
post #53 of 99
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Originally Posted by Chet Ripley View Post

Hot damn! Consider me excited. The Afghan Whigs has always been my favorite Greg Dulli-related outfit (although The Twilight Singer's "Blackberry Belle" is truly amazing and probably features Dulli's most consistent quality songwriting).

On the other hand... between my experiences with rock band reunions and The Twilight Singers last album, I'm also a little nervous.

I saw the Whigs back in 2012. It was amazing, so don't you worry your pretty little head about this.

But your concern isn't without foundation. Dynamite Steps and The Gutter Twins records are not good.
post #54 of 99

My concerns are erased by seeing the Whigs perform 2012 and those two amazing covers they released that year, Lovecrimes and See and Don't See. And their new album will be released (almost) on my birthday.

 

...I realise this could be my Phantom Menace.


Edited by Virtanen - 1/27/14 at 11:55pm
post #55 of 99

I'm not too worried, either. Like Devildoubt, I saw them in 2012 and they were hot fire.

post #56 of 99

 

New song.

post #57 of 99

I like the song. The video doesn't do it any favors, though.

post #58 of 99

Another one from DO TO THE BEAST.

 

post #59 of 99

The Gutter Twins record is divisive, but no love for Dynamite Steps? I recognise the album is Dulli on 70%, but that still gets you On The Corner, Gunshots, and the title track. The title track in particular seems to articulate something fundamental to the Dulli ethos (though don't ask me to explain it : ))

 

Re: The Lottery. Fantastic. Everything that Algiers wasn't.

post #60 of 99

Be Invited is one of the finest songs Greg Dulli has ever written. But all in all, I found Dynamite Steps a bit lacking. Maybe I should give it another try.

post #61 of 99

I listened to the new album when NPR had it streaming yesterday, I think overall it's another solid release.

post #62 of 99
Just got through my first listen.

Maybe it's a grower?
post #63 of 99

Few spins later and yes, it's no Black Love. Or Gentlemen. But, in my humble opinion, it's almost 1965. Which is a lot more I could hope for.

post #64 of 99

I dig it, but I'm not blown away. When Dulli has been on in recent years - Powder Burns - he is on, but Do To The Beast is a collection of moments rather than a cohesive whole so far. It came out a day early outside of the US and I've been playing it in the car ever since. The single The Lottery is the most Whigs-sounding song, and it's ace, but some of the other tunes fall into that mood music grey area of lesser Twilight Singers material.

 

I guess what I'm saying - I miss Rick and those crazy, crazy guitar parts.

post #65 of 99
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Originally Posted by EricBlair View Post
 

I dig it, but I'm not blown away. When Dulli has been on in recent years - Powder Burns - he is on, but Do To The Beast is a collection of moments rather than a cohesive whole so far. It came out a day early outside of the US and I've been playing it in the car ever since. The single The Lottery is the most Whigs-sounding song, and it's ace, but some of the other tunes fall into that mood music grey area of lesser Twilight Singers material.

 

I guess what I'm saying - I miss Rick and those crazy, crazy guitar parts.

 

I agree completely. And I would argue even The Lottery is not as good as the sum of its parts--the chorus meanders and doesn't pay off the remarkable tension built up by everything that came before.

 

Every song has one or two moments that blow me away, but each of those moments is mired in a lot of filler.

post #66 of 99

Live stream Afghan Whigs performance at 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7EJm4dsw6U

post #67 of 99
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I agree completely. And I would argue even The Lottery is not as good as the sum of its parts--the chorus meanders and doesn't pay off the remarkable tension built up by everything that came before.

 

Every song has one or two moments that blow me away, but each of those moments is mired in a lot of filler.

 

Agreed, though The Lottery takes off for me when he says "And now we've reached the end..."

 

After another couple of listens, I would've put this out under the Twilight Singers banner (commercial considerations be damned!). It's an honorable effort, and it's better than 99.9% of records I've heard this year, but it lacks the obsessional qualities that define the best Whigs releases, and even with all the guest guitarists, it can't keep up with Rick pulling crazy shit like that riff on Now You Know. Also, I don't feel like it left me anywhere different to when I started listening to the record. Whereas, with Black Love, it chewed me up and spat me out.

 

It's a good record. Problem is, I expect Whigs records to be transcendent, and Do To The Beast isn't that.

post #68 of 99

Listened to all of the Whigs albums pretty much back to back. DO TO THE BEAST doesn't rise near the heights of BLACK LOVE or GENTLEMEN. But it sounds like a natural successor to 1965, which is kind of amazing considering the 15 year gap between them.


Edited by Virtanen - 5/30/14 at 5:04am
post #69 of 99

Was surprised to see no one posted this from a couple of weeks back.  Holy BALLS, what a performance!  I thought I might have been watching through rose-tinted glasses, but Dave sells it at the end . . . 

 

post #70 of 99

New video. I like that Letterman performance so much more. The video looks like a techno video from the 90s.

 

post #71 of 99
post #72 of 99

New song and video:

 

 

Album drops this May. 

post #73 of 99

The song listing of the new album includes an older song called Into The Floor. They played it when I saw them a few years ago and it just fucking gutted me. One of the standouts of an absolutely brilliant concert, you can find several low quality vids of it on Youtube, but if you haven't heard it live it might be a good idea to wait for the album version.


Edited by Virtanen - 3/14/17 at 12:21am
post #74 of 99
I don't know Into The Floor but the new track is solid. Always nice to have them back.
post #75 of 99

Yeah, so far I'm liking the new song more than anything from Do to the Beast. Very cool 1965 vibe, hope the album lives up to it. And I'll forever be grateful for the video to introduce me to the great, great Har Mar Superstar!

 

 

post #76 of 99

New (NSFW) video:

 

 

Really nice... erm, aesthetics. The song is pretty good too.

post #77 of 99
The new album is everything I had hoped Do To The Beast would be. It's great.
post #78 of 99
IT'S OUT!!!

AND IT'S PRETTY FUCKING SWEET!!!
post #79 of 99
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The new album is everything I had hoped Do To The Beast would be. It's great.

Snap! You got in literally 5 seconds before me. I mean literally literally 5 seconds.

Like Virtanen was hoping for above, it's got that 1965 vibe in a top notch way.
post #80 of 99
Already wrote about it in the Albums That Are Owning Me -thread (several hours ago!) It is great. I know it's early and I've only heard it maybe 8 times, but right now I'd put it up there next to Gentlemen and 1965.
post #81 of 99
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Already wrote about it in the Albums That Are Owning Me -thread (several hours ago!) It is great. I know it's early and I've only heard it maybe 8 times, but right now I'd put it up there next to Gentlemen and 1965.

We'll see. It's a stunner, no doubt. I'd put the closing track up against any Dulli closer except Faded.
post #82 of 99
And it's interesting how the singles sound so much better in the context of the album as a whole. There's not a flow, necessarily, but each link to n the chain is enhanced significantly by its brethren. Didn't get Oriole at all before hearing the rest of the record, and now it's one of my favorites.
post #83 of 99
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Originally Posted by Virtanen View Post

Already wrote about it in the Albums That Are Owning Me -thread (several hours ago!) It is great. I know it's early and I've only heard it maybe 8 times, but right now I'd put it up there next to Gentlemen and 1965.

Oh, you mean this? ...
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In Spades by The Afghan Whigs. This is the most important band in my life, from my teens to where I'm now. Listening to this made me remember what it felt like to hear Crime Scene pt One for the first time, and feeling everything else suddenly ceasing to exist. How their songs could get underneath my skin and fill me with hope, regret, despair, anger, lust. In Spades sounds like that. It sounds like the work of the best rock'n roll band of all time.

Word brother.
post #84 of 99
I've had it on repeat for the last couple of hours. Just being IN it. On the one hand I wish it was a longer record, but on the other its brevity leaves a mofo wanting more so it's super easy to just hit GO again when it rolls to its close. And even clocking under 40 minutes it's still more epic in feel than the vast majority of double albums I can think of.


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I'd put the closing track up against any Dulli closer except Faded.

I love it already, although each time it starts it reminds me of another fairly famous song for the first 10 seconds or so. Not in a bad way, since I like this other song, but it's not a cool song to like, so I won't mention it here in case it makes you guys hear it too. In a bad way.
post #85 of 99
Just mention it. Spoiler text if you're worried.
post #86 of 99
Damnit, just noticed they're playing here in August. But it's a festival gig and a one day ticket is 99e.
post #87 of 99
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Originally Posted by bendrix View Post

Just mention it. Spoiler text if you're worried.

With this version it's actually REAL easy to imagine the Whigs doing one of their super sweet covers like they do.
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post #88 of 99
You won't believe me but I guessed it! Doesn't bother me since it's one of my all-timr favorite songs.
post #89 of 99
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With this version it's actually REAL easy to imagine the Whigs doing one of their super sweet covers like they do.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I fucking love that song. Now I'll love the Whigs song even more.

Still getting chills with this one, fellas. I'm so happy.
post #90 of 99
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Damnit, just noticed they're playing here in August. But it's a festival gig and a one day ticket is 99e.

You and Bucho should come to Minneapolis round September to see them in Prince's venue from Purple Rain. I got a spare bed and a couch.
post #91 of 99
I can't get enough of In Spades.

Before this weekend if you'd asked me if I expected to spend more time with the new At The Drive In or the new Whigs, I'd have been all, "Man I love Greg to death but on recent form I'm picking Cedric and Omar to come out on top with this one."

And I'd have been wrong.
post #92 of 99

Hell, before this weekend if you'd suggested I'd rather spend time with the new Whigs or my family, you would've been correct.

 

Was that too weird? 

 

Into the Floor also sounds like the riff from their own song Miles iz Dead, only played much slower. The video is NSFW and in my opinion pretty fucked up. Wonder how many views it got on MTV.

 

post #93 of 99
This album makes me really damn happy.
post #94 of 99

Tried searching the youtube for shitty bootlegs of the new songs, but apparently their tour starts today in Harlem, NY. Still considering paying a godawful amount of money for that festival ticket... I can imagine every cut from In Spades absolutely killing it live.

post #95 of 99
And NZ still waits for the great man to grace us ...
post #96 of 99

Really? I remember NZ being listed on one of the Twilight Singers' tours? That's just weird, who in their right mind wouldn't want to perform there?

 

But enough with the real problems of millions of Oceanians, I'm starting to side with the "burn money" -side of my dilemma after finding out Angel Olsen and Frank Ocean are performing the same day on this outrageously expensive hipster fest. Olsen's MY WOMAN was my favorite album last year, hands down.


Edited by Virtanen - 5/29/17 at 4:10am
post #97 of 99
Oh yeah, Twilight Singers played here in 07 or 08 I think, I should have specified the Whigs, who've never yet blessed our shores with their presence.

Unless they did once back in the day and I just had too good a time to remember it.
post #98 of 99
Not new but somehow, miraculously, new to me. A sweet* live set from 2013.



* For a given value of "sweet" related to singing out of tune being charming when it's done by Greg Dulli.
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