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The Ice Storm (1997)

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I had remembered coming across this while going over the AICN upcoming dvd releases and seeing the redesigned box for the movie and then mentioning it during the second LA Chud gathering in which Tieman along with a couple others had mentioned how great it was. Well after a while I finally got around to netflixing it and taking a look for myself.

I must say that this was one of the best movie depicting a family and its dysfunctions I'd ever seen. At no point did I feel the witting or the direction made things feel like lead brick like in other movies about the subject. Not to mention how beautifully things were shot with the backgrounds incredibly sparse and yet the people depicted very colorfully and the little things (The shot of Alyson Janney smirking in the corner of the screen). I should try and get around to seeing Lee's other films.

Plus I was extremely touched when Kline picks up Ricci on the way back after discovering her with Elijah Wood and the final scene in which Kline breaks down in the car with his kids. You clearly get the idea he either regrets what he did or the fact Wood died. Either way the unknown quality of it is truly expressed in the last shot of Maguire's face. Damn this movie was impressive.
post #2 of 13
A.K.A. the good version of AMERICAN BEAUTY.
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Damn straight my man, damn straight.
post #4 of 13
As a giant fan of the book before the film happened, I wasn't able to watch the film on its own merits. I remember being puzzled by Lee made the kids uglier, and the adults all more attractive. Looking forward to revisiting.
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I always meant to catch the Fox version of the DVD since it got cheaper and cheaper. Alas--the Criterion version comes out in March, hooray.
post #6 of 13
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Yeah like I said, I didn't quite the meaning of the Criterion cover until I saw the movie. Then it made sense. Amazing box art really.
post #7 of 13
What's the opposite of ham-handed? Everything - the acting, the dialogue, the direction - in this movie seemed so natural despite the subject matter and the Nixon-mask shenanigans. I'm remembering how quiet the movie felt in places, in a very thoughtful way. I'd like to see it again.
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Hate to keep digging these old ones up, but I don't believe I'm alone in saying that these films always deserve more discussion, and I just had the pleasure of seeing this for the first time. It's a very good film, but I disagree with it being better than American Beauty. It's less known, and it didn't win any Oscars, so it kind of has that going for it, since when two films are alike and one wins a lot, it's usually labeled as being worse, overrated, or pretentious. I love American Beauty, and in my mind it's a far better film, but Ice Storm certainly isn't too shabby either.
post #9 of 13
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I can understand what you're saying and to each is own but I found the issues in the Ice Storm to be more subtle and understanding compared to American Beauty which has much more of a broad brush to its approach.
post #10 of 13
Beautiful film. Cinematography is amazing. The repeated cuts to the television felt a bit "Look, it's the 70's" but I'm sure I'm missing their significance.

Great performances all around, too.
post #11 of 13
I knew very little about this beforehand, other than some of those involved. Being very fond of this type of story, I'm quite a hard sell. It didn't take long to convince me, though. Gripping from start to finish and filled with great performances (especially Maguire, Ricci, and Kline.) This thread is really making me want to break out with this, actually. Wonder Boys too.

The phrase "parental units" really clicked with me. I still use it now and again.
post #12 of 13
I'm pretty sure Radiohead's "House of Cards" is based on it.
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One of the best WPWP films I've seen in quite a while. It's just mean enough, just sensitive enough, just harsh enough, just warm enough. The performances are all reserved, with a dry sense of humor. Pretty much everyone hits that same tone (except for Elijah Wood, who is just warm and cuddly. And Joan Allen, who plays wife-on-the-edge very well.)

All the actors are excellent. I keep on coming back to Kevin Kline, but then Weaver really gets a chance to spread her wings, Joan Allen expresses great emotion with silence, and then all the kids are great (esp. the nervous little brother). Yeah, all the actors are excellent.

The cinematographer is excellent. He captures the dark, cold, damp feel of the forest beautifully. Totally immersive. ('Immersive', catchword of the season, or what?)

What fascinates me is 'Why did Ang Lee choose this story and this family and this social milieu?' He's Tawainese. How could he identify with an upper-class white American family? Is this film his opportunity to explore a new world? The camera is certainly distant enough to conclude this. Or maybe it's his opportunity to show what he's observed about America. Or maybe he just liked the story and the themes. Regardless, its' kind of fascinating me. Guess I'll seek out some interviews.


Now, I have to add, b/c I'm Mexican and grew up lower-class: Where are these films for the lower class? THE ICE STORM nicely dissects and observes the dynamics of a family of a particular social class. Where's the film which dissects the lower class America with as much insight and sensitivity? Too bad DeSica, Rosselini, and Fellini are dead.
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