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post #1351 of 1515
2/1/12 at 4:38pm
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I'd like to see WInslow set a novel in New York.


Funnily less than a quarter of the Neal Carey series is set in New York and most of it's flashback in Cool Breeze. The rest of the books are around the world.

 

Don't we have enough series or books set there? Plenty of writers already own it. I can't wait until he writes his gangsters in Rhode Island novel. (Given how much of a Mafia haven it is, I'm surprised it hasn't been done, except for Showtime's excellent Brotherhood)

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post #1352 of 1515
2/1/12 at 4:57pm

I much prefer to read about places that haven't been done to death by other writers. Winslow has made an excellent case for making his name synonymous with San Diego like Chandler's is with LA. The place is in his blood and it shows. Scorsese's plans to set Frankie Machine in NYC bummed me out for that very reason, which is why I'm kinda glad that one didn't happen.

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post #1353 of 1515
2/1/12 at 5:09pm
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I much prefer to read about places that haven't been done to death by other writers. Winslow has made an excellent case for making his name synonymous with San Diego like Chandler's is with LA. The place is in his blood and it shows. Scorsese's plans to set Frankie Machine in NYC bummed me out for that very reason, which is why I'm kinda glad that one didn't happen.



He once told me that if he had to leave the city for good, he'd cry. This place is definitely in his blood.

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post #1354 of 1515
2/1/12 at 5:09pm

Winslow is an east coast guy; he may live in California, but you can read the east coast roots in his writing.  Yeah, he covers San Diego like nobody's business, but he knows New York as well, the filthy morass of New York before it got cleaned up, the same New York Richard Price and Nick Pileggi write about.  Be great to see him write a novel set in late-70s New York city, where he made his bones. 

 

 

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post #1355 of 1515
2/1/12 at 5:22pm

I love New York, I also love LA and Boston. I'm perfectly content and happy to have writers show off different settings at the moment.

 

Like Nashville! Come on crime fiction writers! Show off the sorid underbelly of my hometown!

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post #1356 of 1515
2/1/12 at 5:28pm

One of the signs of Winslow's talent and skill is his ability to write about both the east and west coasts.  Few writers have shown they can do it.  Winslow, Rod Thorp, not many others.

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post #1357 of 1515
2/1/12 at 5:35pm
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I love New York, I also love LA and Boston. I'm perfectly content and happy to have writers show off different settings at the moment.

 

Like Nashville! Come on crime fiction writers! Show off the sorid underbelly of my hometown!

Very funny, very bloody. Shockingly dark as it goes along.
 

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post #1358 of 1515
2/2/12 at 1:39am
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I'd like to see WInslow set a novel in New York.



He already has, it's called Isle of Joy.

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post #1359 of 1515
2/2/12 at 5:40am

 

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Very funny, very bloody. Shockingly dark as it goes along.
 

 

Goddamnit, I need to be less of a rep slut so I can properly rep people.

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post #1360 of 1515
2/2/12 at 6:33am
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He already has, it's called Isle of Joy.



That's his take on the Kennedys; it just happens to take place in New York.

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post #1361 of 1515
2/2/12 at 8:07pm
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Rath will disagree, but I think Ace Atkins is the new James Ellroy, with a more readable voice. White Shadow is one of his historical masterpieces. It's about the murder of real life gangster Charlie Wall in Tampa in 1955. The murder is investigated by a cop and a reporter and they both feel like they came from the mind of Ellroy. Using real gangsters and Cuban revolutionaries, Atkins paints a stunningly vivid picture of the time and place. It has a deliciously subtle ending (As the real murder was never solved), but Atkins's resolution is very satisfying. Snap this up and whatever else Atkins has done (I recommend Infamous, his book about Machine Gun Kelly and his wife Kathryn, the Lady McBeth of the era.)

 

http://aceatkins.com/Extras/WhiteShadow/index.html

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post #1362 of 1515
2/2/12 at 8:22pm

I like Atkins a lot, but I don't think taking up the Spenser reins is a great idea.

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post #1363 of 1515
2/8/12 at 3:33pm

Re: Ace Atkins. I have a copy of Wicked City that I got for about 4 bucks on Barnes & Noble.com. Have you read that one, Cameron? How is it?

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post #1364 of 1515
2/8/12 at 6:16pm
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Re: Ace Atkins. I have a copy of Wicked City that I got for about 4 bucks on Barnes & Noble.com. Have you read that one, Cameron? How is it?



Great. Very Deadwood

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post #1365 of 1515
2/9/12 at 1:46am

Deadwood you say? Mind giving a little more detail?

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post #1366 of 1515
2/9/12 at 4:47pm
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Deadwood you say? Mind giving a little more detail?



Phenix City was once very much the most dangerous city in the US. Pretty much lawless. Atkins writes it as the dark western it was.

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post #1367 of 1515
2/9/12 at 5:26pm
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A group of terrorists storm and take siege of a posh London Hotel. Only one man, there for mysterious reasons, can stop them.'

 

 

Yeah, it's Die Hard in a hotel, but it's also it's own thing too. The bad guys are excellently written and aren't pure villains and the hero isn't that nice a guy and Kernick doesn't forget the hotel guests and writes them so well that I felt like I knew these people. It's exciting, sometimes funny, and moves like a bullet train trying to break the speed of light. Kernick isn't known in the US(Which is a crime because he's better than a lot of our guys), so you'll have to get it from Amazon UK. The extra cost is very much worth it.

 

http://www.simonkernick.com/books/?e=9780593062906&t=Siege

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post #1368 of 1515
2/9/12 at 5:41pm

I have to admit I really need to sit down and give Atkins my due dilligence; I've dug what he's written but wasn't wowed by it.

 

Got a big stack of books from my meeting at Little, Brown yesterday, including the new Lansdale. 

 

Favorite "new guy" of the moment is probably Michael Robotham. I forgot to add it to my list, but The Wreckage is a hell of a book.

 

Akashic, the folks that do the wonderful "Noir" series, has a new series about drugs by some of your favorite authors big and small. The first one is about coke, the second about speed. Check 'em out.

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post #1369 of 1515
2/10/12 at 8:49am

All hail University of Chicago Press! To match their wonderful Parker reissues, they're publishing the previously out-of-print Grofield novels, The Dame, The Damsel, and The Blackbird! Release date as of Amazon, April 15. The OCD completist in me is doing cartwheels.

 

ETA: In other Westlake news, his previously unpublished "The Comedy Is Finished" is coming out at the end of the month by HCC. Really looking forward to it; supposedly he didn't release it because he thought it too closely resembled Scorsese's "The King of Comedy".

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post #1370 of 1515
2/10/12 at 9:36am
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All hail University of Chicago Press! To match their wonderful Parker reissues, they're publishing the previously out-of-print Grofield novels, The Dame, The Damsel, and The Blackbird! Release date as of Amazon, April 15. The OCD completist in me is doing cartwheels.

 

ETA: In other Westlake news, his previously unpublished "The Comedy Is Finished" is coming out at the end of the month by HCC. Really looking forward to it; supposedly he didn't release it because he thought it too closely resembled Scorsese's "The King of Comedy".



 

Hopefully Dortmunder is next.

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post #1371 of 1515
2/10/12 at 9:48am

Hard Case Crime is also publishing the last, previously undiscovered, James M. Cain novel this year. 

 

http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/hard-case-crime-recovers-lost-james-m-cain_b38519

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post #1372 of 1515
2/11/12 at 11:03am

Pelecanos' latest, What It Was, is available as a 99-cent ebook download for a limited time.

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post #1373 of 1515
2/14/12 at 1:14pm

Some of my writer friends are still leery of the idea of an e-reader, but damn... on the train this morning, I had just finished my e-library copy of Atkins' Infamous, and through the magic of... digitalness, I guess... I was able to immedately pull up my copy of Bryan Burrough's Public Enemies for the ideal thematic followup. It'll never replace the feeling of a "real" book, for me, but it sure has its points.

 

I enjoyed Infamous, though I found his style rather detached, so that by the end of the book, while I was certainly interested in the fates of the respective characters, I wasn't particularly invested in them.

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post #1374 of 1515
2/17/12 at 9:05am

Reviews for Bazell's "Wild Thing" seem to be all over the place-- anyone here dived in yet?

 

"Beat the Reaper" had me laughing out loud over and over again as I read it, but I have to wonder if you can pull of the same thing twice.

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post #1375 of 1515
2/17/12 at 4:00pm

It's kind of fucking weird.

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post #1376 of 1515
2/17/12 at 7:58pm
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It's kind of fucking weird.


 

So weird, but I loved it.

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post #1377 of 1515
2/17/12 at 8:00pm
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Some of my writer friends are still leery of the idea of an e-reader, but damn... on the train this morning, I had just finished my e-library copy of Atkins' Infamous, and through the magic of... digitalness, I guess... I was able to immedately pull up my copy of Bryan Burrough's Public Enemies for the ideal thematic followup. It'll never replace the feeling of a "real" book, for me, but it sure has its points.

 

I enjoyed Infamous, though I found his style rather detached, so that by the end of the book, while I was certainly interested in the fates of the respective characters, I wasn't particularly invested in them.


 

Yeah,  I don't think Atkins was as close to the material as he is with The Devil's Garden, Wicked City and (My fave) White Shadow

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post #1378 of 1515
2/18/12 at 2:36am

Ed Brubaker's The Last of the Innocents is another fine addition to the criminal multi-verse, Rath described it as what happens when Archie grows up, that's pretty bang on, the ending is either depressing or uplifting, depending on which way you look at it. It's a total love letter to teen comics and unfiltered noir in the best James M Cain tradition.

 

I've started George Pelecanos What it Is. so good to be back in Strange's universe, even if it is brief.

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post #1379 of 1515
2/18/12 at 11:05am

Devin said that, not me.

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post #1380 of 1515
2/18/12 at 11:08am
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Some of my writer friends are still leery of the idea of an e-reader, but damn... on the train this morning, I had just finished my e-library copy of Atkins' Infamous, and through the magic of... digitalness, I guess... I was able to immedately pull up my copy of Bryan Burrough's Public Enemies for the ideal thematic followup. It'll never replace the feeling of a "real" book, for me, but it sure has its points.

 

I enjoyed Infamous, though I found his style rather detached, so that by the end of the book, while I was certainly interested in the fates of the respective characters, I wasn't particularly invested in them.



I just got a new Kindle and I love it. Haters gonna hate. I have 200+ books on my shit and I can stick it in my pocket.

 

I'm curious about the new Bazell too. Just got "Wolf Tickets" by Ray Banks and I'm gonna dive into that because I need a break from regular fiction.

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post #1381 of 1515
2/18/12 at 1:04pm
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Ed Brubaker's The Last of the Innocents is another fine addition to the criminal multi-verse



Brubaker is always a recommendation; Brubaker plus Phillips is pure dark gold. The first issue of Fatale feels like another winner.

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post #1382 of 1515
2/18/12 at 5:31pm

On several people's recommendations, I read Christa Faust's Money Shot. Liked it a lot, although there was some plot wonkiness. I just had to laugh when, after using an internet database to find an obscure porn title, the characters are all "Well, there's no way around it; we have to go and find a Romanian to translate this letter. Yep, no other way to get it done." But Angel Dare is a top-notch protag, and sex trafficking stories always get my moral outrage goin' good. I haven't read enough crime fiction to know if setting it within the porn world is at all original, but it felt fresh to me. Is the sequel as good/better?

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post #1383 of 1515
2/18/12 at 5:50pm

Choke Hold is so fucking good.

 

Also bleak.

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post #1384 of 1515
2/18/12 at 5:51pm

Goddamnit CHUD!!

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post #1385 of 1515
2/18/12 at 5:51pm

Now I feel like I finally belong! Multiple posts!

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post #1386 of 1515
2/18/12 at 7:33pm

Wait, is Choke Hold already out? I was batshit about Money Shot thanks to Leonard.

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post #1387 of 1515
2/18/12 at 7:38pm

It's out and all ready for you to get your grubby mits on it.

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post #1388 of 1515
2/18/12 at 8:13pm

Also glad to see Cameron still doing the Lord's work in this thread. Missed you, dude.

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post #1389 of 1515
2/18/12 at 10:03pm

Cameron needs to be knighted or else.

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post #1390 of 1515
2/19/12 at 10:37am
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Also glad to see Cameron still doing the Lord's work in this thread. Missed you, dude.

Tell God to stop fucking with my body.
 

 

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post #1391 of 1515
2/19/12 at 11:34am

Choke Hold's been out for a while. Here's my review:

 

http://www.mulhollandbooks.com/2012/01/19/review-choke-hold-by-christa-faust/

 

Oh, and I did not know that LAST OF THE INNOCENTS was collected now. Gotta pick that up.

 

A recent title I flipped for -- though it is not without flaws -- is Ryan David Jahn's THE DISPATCHER. Gritty, greasy, bleak at times, hopeful at others, with some gorgeous writing. It's about an East Texas police dispatcher who gets a 911 call from his long-missing, thought dead, teenage daughter. Drama ensues. Would make a great vehicle for Kyle Chandler. 

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post #1392 of 1515
2/23/12 at 1:43pm

Finished Choke Hold. Grief, you guys weren't kidding about the ending. Now, on Lauren's recommendation, I'm moving on to Queenpin by Megan Abbott.

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post #1393 of 1515
2/25/12 at 7:27pm

Finished In the Midst of Death. Jesus. Hard to see Scudder actually come close to being happy and have it all ripped away. It is going to continue like this isn't it?

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post #1394 of 1515
2/25/12 at 8:07pm
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Finished In the Midst of Death. Jesus. Hard to see Scudder actually come close to being happy and have it all ripped away. It is going to continue like this isn't it?



Sort of, When he does get serious with a wioman he nearly ruins it in a number of ways, but because this series cherishes realism, he eventiually snaps out of it.

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post #1395 of 1515
2/25/12 at 9:18pm

Yeah, that's a great Scudder.  Lean and bleak and with Scudder's alcoholism slowly but surely taking command of his life. 

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post #1396 of 1515
2/25/12 at 9:21pm
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Sort of, When he does get serious with a wioman he nearly ruins it in a number of ways, but because this series cherishes realism, he eventiually snaps out of it.



Not until he

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quits the booze,

 

significantly.

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post #1397 of 1515
2/29/12 at 8:50pm

So The Kings of Cool...what's up with that Cameron?

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post #1398 of 1515
3/1/12 at 7:22pm

It's a Savages prequel that was supposed to come out in the fall when the movie was hitting August, but is now coming out closer to the movie's new release date.

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post #1399 of 1515
3/2/12 at 5:59am

Kitsch has been quietly talking up the film while hitting the talk-show circuit for John Carter, and doing a decent job of it.

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post #1400 of 1515
3/14/12 at 6:18pm

I read Criminal: Last of the Innocents.

 

Archie murders Veronica, frames Reggie for it and later has him killed as well, and eventually sets up Jughead (who is a drug addict!) to die because he knows too much. And Don Decarlo characters talk about handjobs and joints.

 

It's the best thing, is what I'm saying.

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