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post #1451 of 3020

All you Winslow fans, I'm in the process of popping my cherry via Power of the Dog. And though I'm only halfway through, in my best Michael Corleone voice, "I'm with you now. I'm with you now."

post #1452 of 3020

Power of the Dog is one of my favorite books ever written.

post #1453 of 3020
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All you Winslow fans, I'm in the process of popping my cherry via Power of the Dog. And though I'm only halfway through, in my best Michael Corleone voice, "I'm with you now. I'm with you now."

 


Wait until your next dates with The Dawn Patrol, The Gentlemen's Hour, and Savages. You'll be ready to propose.

post #1454 of 3020

The other two I got for Xmas are Winter of Frankie Machine and Savages. I plan on getting through them in that order (of publication, because I'm weird that way) before the Stone flick comes out. This year has been a  tough one for carving out reading time, though.

 

The rest of his catalog will soon follow, no doubt. But only after I get through the rest of this backlog (HCC's return -- including Choke Hold, still collecting shameful dust -- and the re-released Grofields that just showed up on my doorstep). But if Power of the Dog is any indication, it's wonderful to know they're there, waiting for me.

post #1455 of 3020

 

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So I've heard. Is it available in Region 1?

 

I've only seen R2 listed anywhere, and Netflix doesn't have it.

post #1456 of 3020

I picked up Thick as Thieves and Triple Crossing thanks to Cameron's recommendations, looking forward to reading both.

post #1457 of 3020

 

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All you Winslow fans, I'm in the process of popping my cherry via Power of the Dog. And though I'm only halfway through, in my best Michael Corleone voice, "I'm with you now. I'm with you now."

 

Power of the Dog is probably the best book I've ever read. But its not even my favorite Winslow.

 

You have so much to look forward to.

post #1458 of 3020

 

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Power of the Dog is probably the best book I've ever read. But its not even my favorite Winslow.

 

You have so much to look forward to.

 


What's your favorite then? Just curious as I've not read Power of the Dog yet and my favorite of his is Savages.

post #1459 of 3020
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Power of the Dog is probably the best book I've ever read. But its not even my favorite Winslow.

 

You have so much to look forward to.

David! Glad to see you here!

 

post #1460 of 3020

 

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David! Glad to see you here!

 

 

Thanks!

 

Yeah...I've been...lurking...I guess for over a year. Mostly grabbing recommendations of stuff to read. Not sure why I didn't start posting sooner.

post #1461 of 3020

 

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What's your favorite then? Just curious as I've not read Power of the Dog yet and my favorite of his is Savages.

 

Good question. Savages blew me away. I love the Boone Daniels books and would love to spend more time with that group. I kind of love everything...

 

DOG is just a different animal. I enjoyed it immensely, but for different reasons than his other books. Its so much heavier, and it doesn't have that same spontaneous feel. His other books almost make me feel like I'm sitting at a great dive bar and some guy is telling me the story over a couple beers. 

post #1462 of 3020
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Anyone here read Johnny Porno by Charlie Stella yet? It is seriously one of the best, if not THE best, mafia novels I ever read, and it's actually interesting, using 70's porn as a back-drop and the craze that Deep Throat caused. Great, great book. Why isn't Stella huge?

post #1463 of 3020

*Sigh*

 

I guess I'll just have to buy something else from amazon now.

post #1464 of 3020
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*Sigh*

 

I guess I'll just have to buy something else from amazon now.

 

Truly great mafia novels are rare. It's rich and dense, but incredibly rewarding. Movie producers should be knocking down his doors so they can use it to make the next Goodfellas.


Edited by Cameron Hughes - 4/29/12 at 8:11pm
post #1465 of 3020

Now I have to have it.

post #1466 of 3020

 

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*Sigh*

 

I guess I'll just have to buy something else from amazon now.

 


And this is why I try to stay out of this thread.

post #1467 of 3020

Thick as Thieves was great, a breathless heist thriller. I like that it just threw you into the middle of an ongoing situation and let's you figure out what the hell's going on.

post #1468 of 3020
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Thick as Thieves was great, a breathless heist thriller. I like that it just threw you into the middle of an ongoing situation and let's you figure out what the hell's going on.


Yeah, it was a thriller for adults and respected your intelligence.

post #1469 of 3020
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The Thief by Fuminori Nakamura reads like a movie that Kurowasa never made with Toshiro Mifune, adapted from a Richard Stark novel about a professional pick-pocket. Highly cinematic with a somber but experienced voice, it's an exciting foreign novel and sure to be on a lot of Best of the Year lists.

post #1470 of 3020

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post #1471 of 3020
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I think I broke Lauren.

post #1472 of 3020
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The Thief by Fuminori Nakamura reads like a movie that Kurowasa never made with Toshiro Mifune, adapted from a Richard Stark novel about a professional pick-pocket. Highly cinematic with a somber but experienced voice, it's an exciting foreign novel and sure to be on a lot of Best of the Year lists.

 

Bought it...

post #1473 of 3020
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Bought it...

You'll like it!

post #1474 of 3020

I'm sure this is old news, but I had no idea Block had a 5th Keller book coming out! So excited!

 

 

 

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Keller #5, Hit Me, is coming in February from Mulholland Books

post #1475 of 3020
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I'm sure this is old news, but I had no idea Block had a 5th Keller book coming out! So excited!

 

 

 

I love how stripped down and spare the books are. Keller is a sociopath, but he's not over the top or anything and has a life. Obviously I don't really know this, but it's how I imagine real hitmen to be like. Actually, he reminds me a bit of De Niro in Goodfellas. Killing is just business, nothing personal. It's not like Keller has fantasies about mowing everyone down in, say, a bank.

 

My dad. a retired car financier for Chase Manhattan, read the books and said "This guy really nails what a business trip is like. You're in a city you don't know, in a bland hotel room and all there is to do is business, read, or stare at a TV, praying it has all the cable channels."


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post #1476 of 3020
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I love how stripped down and spare the books are. Keller is a sociopath, but he's not over the top or anything and has a life. Obviously I don't really know this, but it's how I imagine real hitmen to be like. Actually, he reminds me a bit of De Niro in Goodfellas. Killing is just business, nothing personal. It's not like Keller has fantasies about mowing everyone down in, say, a bank.

 

My dad. a retired car financier for Chase Manhattan, read the books and said "This guy really nails what a business trip is like. You're in a city you don't know, in a bland hotel room and all there is to do is business, read, or stare at a TV, praying it has all the cable channels."

I love how glossed over the hits are. IIRC, there is a bit more detail early in the series, but by the end so much of it is off camera.

 

The focus on the man and not the deed is what really sets them apart for me.

post #1477 of 3020
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Y'all should check out Nick Drake's Egypt trilogy,  Nefertiti, Tut(Not the title, but I am NOT spelling that out) and the most ambitious Egypt (Which reads almost more like a spy thriller rather than a mystery). Rather than being dry history lessons, though you learn quite a bit about one of the most fascinating cultures ever, they read more like Connelly/Ellroy novels where the motives for misdeeds have to do with power, sex, sins of the father and family, money, and religion.

post #1478 of 3020
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Y'all should check out Nick Drake's Egypt trilogy,  Nefertiti, Tut(Not the title, but I am NOT spelling that out) and the most ambitious Egypt (Which reads almost more like a spy thriller rather than a mystery). Rather than being dry history lessons, though you learn quite a bit about one of the most fascinating cultures ever, they read more like Connelly/Ellroy novels where the motives for misdeeds have to do with power, sex, sins of the father and family, money, and religion.

 

Sure, why not? I only have 140 or so books in my kindle wishlist on Amazon. What's three more?

post #1479 of 3020
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Sure, why not? I only have 140 or so books in my kindle wishlist on Amazon. What's three more?

That's the spirit!

post #1480 of 3020
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Question: Who has a copy of Don Winslow's Savages prequel The Kings of Cool?

 

Answer: ME

post #1481 of 3020

You...you do? Well now I'm just going to have to pay for something else down the road.

 

 

 

I'm REALLY interested in the summary for the book though, if only because I'm almost certain Chon's dad and his drug-trafficking network would come into play.

post #1482 of 3020
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You...you do? Well now I'm just going to have to pay for something else down the road.

 

 

 

I'm REALLY interested in the summary for the book though, if only because I'm almost certain Chon's dad and his drug-trafficking network would come into play.

I just started, but yeah, a major part of it is about The Association in the 60's.

post #1483 of 3020
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Question: Who has a copy of Don Winslow's Savages prequel The Kings of Cool?

 

Answer: ME

 

I hate you.. Every demon I kill in Diablo 3 I'll now imagine I'm clicking on you.

post #1484 of 3020
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Question: Who has a copy of Don Winslow's Savages prequel The Kings of Cool?

 

Answer: ME

 

 

 

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post #1485 of 3020
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The neatest thing about is that one note characters like PAQU get a lot of characterization and depth. Even Lado gets more rounded.

post #1486 of 3020
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I just started, but yeah, a major part of it is about The Association in the 60's.

 

 

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'bout damn time, too.

post #1487 of 3020

Since I can't read the latest Don Winslow like some people I've decided to follow up the first Prince of Nothing book with something totally opposite: Money Shot, I believe it was LaurenOtega that suggested it a bunch of pages back?

post #1488 of 3020

Others did too.

 

But yes, Money Shot is great and it's sequel Choke Hold is even better.

post #1489 of 3020
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Others did too.

 

But yes, Money Shot is great and it's sequel Choke Hold is even better.

I think I actually liked Money Shot a bit better, but loved both books.

post #1490 of 3020

Choosing them is like choosing my children for me.

 

Angel Dare is pretty much one of my current favorite crime fiction protagonists.

post #1491 of 3020
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Choosing them is like choosing my children for me.

 

Angel Dare is pretty much one of my current favorite crime fiction protagonists.

I just wish Faust would write a novel taking place between both books set in prison like the fantastic Stone City.

post #1492 of 3020

Been waiting six year for Smith's new book.  He's still alive so there's always hope.

 

 

Good news for Scudder fans:

 

http://collider.com/liam-neeson-scott-frank-a-walk-among-the-tombstones/166963/

 

Funny, Neeson might've made a better choice for Ballou; there are few actors of the size and weight to pull that role off.  We'll see.
 

post #1493 of 3020

I thought the same thing re: Ballou. Neeson never completely loses his accent, which always just makes him "Liam Neeson" for me--which will make buying him as Scudder even more difficult. Oh well, the script is supposed to be very good. I haven't seen Frank's first directorial effort, but I hear good things. I hope for the best.

post #1494 of 3020
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Kings is doing what a good prequel should do, giving us a deeper understanding of where certain characters came from. PAQU has gone from a one-note SoCal rich mom for comedy relief in Savages to a stunningly sad creature.

post #1495 of 3020

Cameron, are characters from Winslow's other books still in play for Kings? Already got this shit pre-ordered!

post #1496 of 3020

I wasn't too impressed with Triple Crossing, I liked the idea behind it but I felt the execution was kind of stilted, in the wake of Power of the Dog it really doesn't have that kind of power even though it tries to present a simplified view of a complex situation (I realize that's not a fair comparison)

 

I'm currently reading Lawrence Block's Getting Off and In the mists of the electric confederate dead by James Lee Burke, I got a bunch of Elmore Leonard novels waiting for me too.

post #1497 of 3020

Finished Money Shot and have moved over to Choke Hold but I'm a little disappointed I won't have another Angel Dare book to read once I'm done with it. Also, I didn't see the Malloy thing coming at all!

post #1498 of 3020
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Cameron, are characters from Winslow's other books still in play for Kings? Already got this shit pre-ordered!


Not sure yet.

post #1499 of 3020
Just finished the audiobook of Connelly's THE DROP. Loved it. Like the best Bosch novels there is a personal aspect for him. In this case it's his old nemisis Irving. His son apparently threw himself - or was pushed - from the 8th floor of the Chateau Marmont. Despite their history Irving hires Bosch to investigate what really happened. Very gripping with a few twists I didn't see coming. There's also a chilling paedophile rapist subplot ehich is actually tough to read - or listen to - sometimes.

This was my first fiction audiobook. Thrre's only one narrator, Len Cariou, which takes some getting used to, especially when he's doing Kiz Rider, but after a while you get swept up in it.
post #1500 of 3020
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Just finished the audiobook of Connelly's THE DROP. Loved it. Like the best Bosch novels there is a personal aspect for him. In this case it's his old nemisis Irving. His son apparently threw himself - or was pushed - from the 8th floor of the Chateau Marmont. Despite their history Irving hires Bosch to investigate what really happened. Very gripping with a few twists I didn't see coming. There's also a chilling paedophile rapist subplot ehich is actually tough to read - or listen to - sometimes.
This was my first fiction audiobook. Thrre's only one narrator, Len Cariou, which takes some getting used to, especially when he's doing Kiz Rider, but after a while you get swept up in it.

I find Connelly hit or miss, but when he connects with the ball, that ball is going into the next fucking county.

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