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Have you read his Bosch short stories, SUICIDE RUN or ANGLE OF INVESTIGATION, Cameron? They were quite good, not amazing but overall a fun read. I liked the way they jumped back to different periods of Bosch's life.
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 I haven't, actually. Thanks for the tip!

 

One thing I really admire about his writing is that he's firmly mainstream, but not afraid to take risks in his writing.

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Have you read his Bosch short stories, SUICIDE RUN or ANGLE OF INVESTIGATION, Cameron? They were quite good, not amazing but overall a fun read. I liked the way they jumped back to different periods of Bosch's life.
post #1503 of 3017

I will second the affection for Connelly's Bosch short stories. There's also one called Father's Day that's pretty wonderful, too. 

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Okay, yeah, there are a few familiar faces in The Kings Of Cool. I'm not going to spoil who, because it's really fun when they show up. What's great is that it feels organic rather than just Winslow throwing them in as easter eggs.

post #1505 of 3017

Just finished Choke Hold. I really need to stay away from crime fiction, it's relentlessly depressing, jesus.

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If Fox wanted a replacement for House, they could do worse than Dan Simmons's Darwin Minor from Darwin's Blade. Darwin is basically a physics genius and he uses that knowledge to figure out how auto accidents happen for insurance companies looking for fraud. It's a really cool premise and Fox could easily do cool stand-alone episodes as well as the big mystery of the book. The bus accident at the beginning of the book could easily be the pilot. If you liked California Fire and Life, you'll enjoy this.

 

http://www.thrillingdetective.com/eyes/minor.html (The author of the article likes the book less than me )


Edited by Cameron Hughes - 5/21/12 at 9:35pm
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What I like about Minor is he's not some savant or Will Graham-esque clairvoyant, he's the Sherlock Holmes of San Diego.  Simmons shows him using his knowledge and training to solve accidents, he doesn't pull the results out of his ass.

 

Another thing about Minor is that he lives in the same literary world as the characters from Summer of Night - in fact, his best friend Larry was once kidnapped by a subterranean monster (iirc his childhood trauma is briefly referred to by Simmons in Darwin's Blade).  Darwin Minor, NTSB investigator, Ph. D in applied physics, ultimate believer in lex parsimoniae, walks the same earth as ghosts, zombies, and vampires - pretty much the whole monster manual. 

 

The cool thing, of course, would be if the two would meet.

 

The less said about Simmons' Joe Kurtz series, the better.

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What I like about Minor is he's not some savant or Will Graham-esque clairvoyant, he's the Sherlock Holmes of San Diego.  Simmons shows him using his knowledge and training to solve accidents, he doesn't pull the results out of his ass.

 

Another thing about Minor is that he lives in the same literary world as the characters from Summer of Night - in fact, his best friend Larry was once kidnapped by a subterranean monster (iirc his childhood trauma is briefly referred to by Simmons in Darwin's Blade).  Darwin Minor, NTSB investigator, Ph. D in applied physics, ultimate believer in lex parsimoniae, walks the same earth as ghosts, zombies, and vampires - pretty much the whole monster manual. 

 

The cool thing, of course, would be if the two would meet.

 

The less said about Simmons' Joe Kurtz series, the better.


Oh man, the Kurtz series is bad. It's like a "literary" writer thinking he has to write badly in purple prose to do crime/pulp.

 

And as neat as it is that Dar's world is the same one as Summer of Night I'd rather they stay apart and just be a little Easter egg for Simmons fans.

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Simmons also has a bit of that right-wing nutcase virus running through his veins.  It crops up now and again in his writing, but looking back I feel sort of lousy for enjoying Song of Kali so much when I was younger.  Don't think it came from a very good place. 

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Simmons also has a bit of that right-wing nutcase virus running through his veins.  It crops up now and again in his writing, but looking back I feel sort of lousy for enjoying Song of Kali so much when I was younger.  Don't think it came from a very good place. 


I never read Song of Kali. What do you mean?

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Reading Ranchero right now and loving it. Having spent the better part of 6 years in Mississippi, this is one of the most accurate depictions I've read. It's not always easy to make a rural setting interesting or exciting but Gavin does it.

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It's a horror story set in Calcutta.  Pretty dark; Simmons' talents lean towards these sorts of superlative dark odyssies.  I have no problem with horror novels set in foreign countries, not at all - but Simmons' depiction of Indian people and culture is pretty brutal, bordering on racist, and I don't say that lightly.  I loved the book when I read it, but like Lovecraft, I was too young (13) and stupid to understand the implications of such unapologetically negative depictions.  I'm not saying Simmons himself is a racist, but he is pretty narrow-minded in matter of race and culture, and he's one of those writers whose African-American and other minority characters tend to sound remarkably like white people.  I don't think he's learned what Oscar Wilde put so well: “We are each our own devil, and we make this world our hell.”

 

You're a fan of Stone City, Cameron - if you have a chance, look up a book called Karma by the same writer.  It's a terrific thriller about an architect in New York City who locks eyes with a woman falling from the top of a half-built skyscraper.  He is faced with a ruthless Indian crime family and its assassins who, in the words of Ralph Peters, 'bleed medieval'.  Of course he is an ex-Recon Marine, and they've messed with the wrong guy...But in any event, an important part of the story is the main character (who can trace his family's roots back to the Mayflower) confronting his own prejudices as he realizes the minorities who will one day run New York City are no better or worse, no more brave or corrupt, than his own WASP ancestors.

 

And it has great knife fights.

 

Sorry Blofeld.
 

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Yeah there's some real "white man's burden" depictions of the Indians and how backwards they all happen to be. That and later on Simmons real big obsession with Islam and how it's going to take over Europe and shit.

 

 

He's kind of like Orson Scott Card, except that I still like so much of Simmons writing.

 

 

 

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You're a fan of Stone City, Cameron - if you have a chance, look up a book called Karma by the same writer.  It's a terrific thriller about an architect in New York City who locks eyes with a woman falling from the top of a half-built skyscraper.  He is faced with a ruthless Indian crime family and its assassins who, in the words of Ralph Peters, 'bleed medieval'.  Of course he is an ex-Recon Marine, and they've messed with the wrong guy...But in any event, an important part of the story is the main character (who can trace his family's roots back to the Mayflower) confronting his own prejudices as he realizes the minorities who will one day run New York City are no better or worse, no more brave or corrupt, than his own WASP ancestors.

 

And it has great knife fights.

 

I'm sold on knife fights alone!

 

Well that and badass Indian crime families.

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Dan Simmons is so, so awful. I am kind of surprised at you, Cameron. 

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Dan Simmons is so, so awful. I am kind of surprised at you, Cameron. 

I've only read Darwin's Blade and his politics/views didn't come out in that one. It was a better than average procedural that I enjoyed.

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So, anyone read anything good lately or do y'all just wait for me to rant about whatever I have on deck?

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So, anyone read anything good lately or do y'all just wait for me to rant about whatever I have on deck?

 

Both.

 

I'm just finishing the 2nd Monty Haaviko book and I'm pretty devastated that there is only 1 more.

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Picked up a few good ones at the used bookstore yesterday, although I'm only half-way through the first.  Dead Silver by Neil McMahon is a Longmire-esque mystery set in Montana.  Likable characters, confident, lyrical storytelling.  A carpenter with an unusual skillset and his Blackfoot friend help good people in trouble.  Highly recommended. 

 

The other two are PI mysteries set in Detroit, by a fella named Rob Kanter.  He wrote back solid books back in the 80s and quit the business in the early 90s.  Love reading mysteries set in Detroit.  Picked em up as they aren`t seen too often any more and they may never see e-trade.
 

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Oh man Rob Kanter is SO good.

 

His short story collection is just absolutely great.

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Picked up a few good ones at the used bookstore yesterday, although I'm only half-way through the first.  Dead Silver by Neil McMahon is a Longmire-esque mystery set in Montana.  Likable characters, confident, lyrical storytelling.  A carpenter with an unusual skillset and his Blackfoot friend help good people in trouble.  Highly recommended. 

 

The other two are PI mysteries set in Detroit, by a fella named Rob Kanter.  He wrote back solid books back in the 80s and quit the business in the early 90s.  Love reading mysteries set in Detroit.  Picked em up as they aren`t seen too often any more and they may never see e-trade.
 


Rob Kanter is solid. Good gritty stuff and believable family stuff.

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Both.

 

I'm just finishing the 2nd Monty Haaviko book and I'm pretty devastated that there is only 1 more.


I was devastated when I heard the news. He sent me his books and signed them (One said "Always remember-Han Solo was a drug smuggler.")

 

In the third and last, Haaviko gets political and gets stalked by a serial killer.

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Picked up a few good ones at the used bookstore yesterday, although I'm only half-way through the first.  Dead Silver by Neil McMahon is a Longmire-esque mystery set in Montana.  Likable characters, confident, lyrical storytelling.  A carpenter with an unusual skillset and his Blackfoot friend help good people in trouble.  Highly recommended. 

 

The other two are PI mysteries set in Detroit, by a fella named Rob Kanter.  He wrote back solid books back in the 80s and quit the business in the early 90s.  Love reading mysteries set in Detroit.  Picked em up as they aren`t seen too often any more and they may never see e-trade.
 


Dead Silver is great. Very slyly funny too. Good neo-western.

 

I'm curious how well Longmire will translate to TV. The books are great, but rely on great narration. Maybe a good old-fashioned voice-over?


Edited by Cameron Hughes - 5/27/12 at 10:00pm
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Thanks to you assholes, I spent like $35 on Amazon.

 

So thanks.

 

Pricks.

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Thanks to you assholes, I spent like $35 on Amazon.

 

So thanks.

 

Pricks.


Whatcha get?

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It only gets worse Oreo. Get out while you can!

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It only gets worse Oreo. Get out while you can!


Moo Ha Ha.

 

Get ready, I'm preparing a post about a Canadian writer who places his books in rural Canada and New York and is Canada's answer to Carl Hiassen and Elmore Leonard. His name is Brad Smith.

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So, anyone read anything good lately or do y'all just wait for me to rant about whatever I have on deck?

 

That's How I Roll by Andrew Vachss, but I didn't like it too much.  I read Half the Blood of Brooklyn a few weeks ago and that was great.  I love some Huston but what's going on with him?  He hasn't put anything out for a bit.

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Booklist interviews Kevin Burton Smith, editor of the great WWW.ThrillingDetective.Com which has lead me to some great books.

 

http://blog.booklistonline.com/2012/05/23/thrilling-detective-if-you-dont-know-them-its-a-crime/#mysterymonth

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Moo Ha Ha.

 

Get ready, I'm preparing a post about a Canadian writer who places his books in rural Canada and New York and is Canada's answer to Carl Hiassen and Elmore Leonard. His name is Brad Smith.


Smith is a very good writer.  Canada is turning out a lot of solid crime writers these days - and the growing economic disparity should improve their stock, even as the quality of life here drops.

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Whatcha get?

Christa Faust: Money Shot, Choke Hold

Don Winslow: Power of the Dog

Fuminori Nakumura: The thief

 

 

 

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That's How I Roll by Andrew Vachss, but I didn't like it too much.  I read Half the Blood of Brooklyn a few weeks ago and that was great.  I love some Huston but what's going on with him?  He hasn't put anything out for a bit.

Seriously.  I've read nearly everything by Huston (loved the Joe Pitt casebooks and Sleepless was fucking amazing) and I hunger for more.

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Christa Faust: Money Shot, Choke Hold

Don Winslow: Power of the Dog

Fuminori Nakumura: The thief

 

 

 

Seriously.  I've read nearly everything by Huston (loved the Joe Pitt casebooks and Sleepless was fucking amazing) and I hunger for more.


Read The Thief and Power of the Dog first and then wind down with the dark, but considerably lighter Money Shot and Choke Hold.

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Just catching up on some crime fiction. Finished The Bottoms by landsdale. Wonderful book and my first by him. After loving Savages I read Dawn patrol and Frankie Machine both of which I loved. Right now halfway through my first Scudder called A Dance at the Slaughter House which I also love. I particuraly love the relationship between Scudder and Elaine.

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Just catching up on some crime fiction. Finished The Bottoms by landsdale. Wonderful book and my first by him. After loving Savages I read Dawn patrol and Frankie Machine both of which I loved. Right now halfway through my first Scudder called A Dance at the Slaughter House which I also love. I particuraly love the relationship between Scudder and Elaine.


Oh man, you have so much goodness waiting for you with Scudder. What I loved about Slaughter-House is that when it takes its darkest turn, Block doesn't go overkill on emotion, but you still feel his immense sorrow and desperation. Elaine is one of the best female creations in crime fiction, because Block makes her smart and feel real and avoids her being a Hooker With A Heart Of Gold.

 

My one movie wish was that Lumet had adapted a Scudder novel during his career, he would have knocked it out of the park, partly because the source material is already so great.

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I'm almost finished reading Getting Off, pure unadulterated pulp. Block visits the darkest parts of his brain and conjures up lurid, sexually charged adventures courtesy of his anti-heroine. The phone conversations between Kimmie and Rita are filthy and hot.

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My one movie wish was that Lumet had adapted a Scudder novel during his career, he would have knocked it out of the park, partly because the source material is already so great.

Damn, Cameron, way to bum a guy out. I never even considered Lumet and Scudder, but it would have been so, so good. Just picturing some of those scenes from Prince of the City...the way he filmed New York...now I'm depressed.

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Lumet doing Scudder would have been perfect.

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Not only that, but the New York of Block's best Scudder novels is going or gone. As Mark Kriegel said, all those buckets of blood have been replaced by TGIFs.

And Lumet mainstay Sean Connery would've made a great Ballou.
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Not only that, but the New York of Block's best Scudder novels is going or gone. As Mark Kriegel said, all those buckets of blood have been replaced by TGIFs.
And Lumet mainstay Sean Connery would've made a great Ballou.

Alas, we can only dream of Lumet doing something like When The Sacred Ginmill Closes or The Devil Knows You're Dead.

 

And my Ballou has always been Brendan Gleason because his face looks like it was carved from stone, and Scudder always said Ballou's face looked like one of the statues on Easter Island. Do you think Connery could pull off the barely restrained violence of Ballou?

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Absolutely; Connery was a great actor and even more physically impressive than Gleeson.  He was a quiet killer for years as James Bond; for Lumet specifically you see that restraint in The Anderson Tapes when he tells Parelli to 'go fetch' , or when he's being sentenced in Family Business.

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On a side note, just blew through the latest Lucas Davenport, and there is no way Sandford/Camp is writing them anymore.  I don't know if he passed off the duties to his son or whatever, but there're just too many slip-ups, minor and major.  It was pretty apparent with the last Davenport and this one confirms it.  A shame; it was a solid series.

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I'm up to date on Michael Connelly, apart from THE FIFTH WITNESS, and I'm looking for other similar crime writers.  Any suggestions?   Thinking of diving into Lawrence Block.

 

Or possibly Robert Crais.  Apparently his character, Evis Cole, met Bosch in LOST LIGHT.

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I'm up to date on Michael Connelly, apart from THE FIFTH WITNESS, and I'm looking for other similar crime writers.  Any suggestions?   Thinking of diving into Lawrence Block.

 

Or possibly Robert Crais.  Apparently his character, Evis Cole, met Bosch in LOST LIGHT.


Robert Crais is good, but very hit and miss and you might as well read Robert B. Parker instead since the Cole novels are very similar.

 

Do dive into  Lawrence Block. Try Ed McBain too, for excellent cop novels.

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Re-reading one of Robert B. Parker's lesser known but great novels All Our Yesterdays, which is about three generations of cops in Boston. It's poignant, funny, and has lots of heart and sorrow.

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I also enjoyed that book.  Makes you wonder what Parker could've done if he had let himself break out of the box a little bit.
 

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I've read some of Simmons' horror stuff, and it's definitely hit and miss. I'll give Cameron the benefit of the doubt on Darwin's Blade because I liked all the technical stuff in California Fire and Life, although the book has polarizing reviews and only cost me 50 cents at the used book store. I doubt his politics will affect my opinion on the book. I mean, Robert Heinlein was a right-wing nut, and I still enjoy Starship Troopers, so I'll report back when I get to it. I'm currently reading Caro's new Lyndon Johnson book, which will probably take a while to get through, though. 

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Sniper by Nicholai Lilin

 

It's a semi-autobiographical novel about Lilin's time in the Russian Army where he was part of the ParaBats who parachuted behind enemy lines and...fucked shit up. Lilin was a sniper. He changes some names and places and times, but it takes place right after the USSR fell and Russia was deep in the Checen war, which I know nothing about and am amazed and horrified by it.

 

To keep sane, the troops joke with each other and it is often very funny and dirty, but that only makes the book's ugliness darker and scarier because you like these guys and don't want them hurt or dead. It is one of the best novels of the year and a fantastic anti-war novel.

 

His website (Warning: I had Google translate it from Russian to English, so some of it reads like it was coded and programmed by Bizarro)

 

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.nicolaililin.com/&ei=cNLKT5GXAsf-2QWmopTaCw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CHcQ7gEwAQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3DNICOLAI%2BLILIN%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DlqM%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Dfflb%26prmd%3Dimvnsob

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Has anyone read any of the Prey novels by John Sandford. Excellent, exciting and great characters. I have a stack of paperbacks I don't read anymore, would be glad to pass them off much like they were passed to me.

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Sniper by Nicholai Lilin

 

It's a semi-autobiographical novel about Lilin's time in the Russian Army where he was part of the ParaBats who parachuted behind enemy lines and...fucked shit up. Lilin was a sniper. He changes some names and places and times, but it takes place right after the USSR fell and Russia was deep in the Checen war, which I know nothing about and am amazed and horrified by it.

 

To keep sane, the troops joke with each other and it is often very funny and dirty, but that only makes the book's ugliness darker and scarier because you like these guys and don't want them hurt or dead. It is one of the best novels of the year and a fantastic anti-war novel.

 

His website (Warning: I had Google translate it from Russian to English, so some of it reads like it was coded and programmed by Bizarro)

 

 

I have kind of a giant fascination with Russian badasses and the Chechen conflict so this sounds right up my alley.

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I have kind of a giant fascination with Russian badasses and the Chechen conflict so this sounds right up my alley.

Reading Sniper, I have no problem understanding how Russia kicked Germany's jack-booted ass so thoroughly and why America and Russia kept it a Cold War.

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Just finished reading Megan Abbott's Queenpin after someone exclaimed that she was James Ellroy's obvious heir.

 

eeeeehhhhhh.......

 

Not to say that I entirely disliked it, but I wasn't exactly in love with the main protagonist, who often shifted between fawning over her mentor and becoming a dog in heat for some scumbag gambler.  Wasn't exactly crazy about the ending either.

 

Currently reading:

 

Money Shot by Christa Faust.  Now this is what I'm fucking talking about. 

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